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[–]jumblebutt 17 ポイント18 ポイント

I have met him and had beers with him. This is the kind of guy that goes to festivals and has a sip or two of every single beer and rates them all. He has a legion that basically brings beers to him. Seriously, Great British Beer Fest... 400+ beers. He rated them all.

[–]TakesJonToKnowJuan 24 ポイント25 ポイント

Anyone who reviews a beer from one or two sips isn't putting the time or thought needed to actually review a beer. Read this guy's reviews:

"Golden body, finger of white head, malty aroma, grassy hops. 3.4/5.0"

They are functionally useless. He has thousands of these useless reviews, and has spent thousands of countless wasted hours documenting all this useless information, and from the sounds of it, he is miserable while he does it as well.

This is not beer reviewing. This guy is a hoarder. I'd feel bad for him but he also sounds affluent and I'm sure he still finds time to enjoy beer and get drunk.

I wouldn't trust his opinion on beer though.

[–]kepleronlyknows 3 ポイント4 ポイント

He himself said he joined mostly to keep track of what he's already had, not necessarily to write brilliant reviews.

And I agree with the other poster, you sound like a snob. Just let the guy do his thing, not like he's bragging about this, just enjoying beer in his own way.

[–]genderchangers 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Also, if you're sipping 400+ beers in a single day, you are not tasting shit. I don't care how refined your palate is.

[–]dar482 2 ポイント3 ポイント

First, it's about the context of his reviews. He's not trying to try a full 5 paragraph essay on the intimate details of a beer. Simply, don't read his reviews looking for that. He's trying for short reviews based on quick 2-4 oz. tastings.

Second, your last sentences are highly presumptuous and outright rude. The man clearly has a passion for a beer. After having and reviewed that many beer, he surely has at least an opinion worth listening to.

You literally are the kind of snob that makes craft beer worse.

[–]TakesJonToKnowJuan 6 ポイント7 ポイント

You literally are the kind of snob that makes craft beer worse.

This is the funniest accusation I have ever heard from you, the guy that posts weekly armchair updates on the state of Heady Topper:

Thought I'd share my most recently Heady Topper Weekly (where I have a Heady Topper every week) - [7:11]

Literally the most self-absorbed, lacking self-awareness, useless video I have ever seen. You want to talk about pretentious and snobbery and fuck-wankery in the beer community, that video is the epitome of it. Your video there, that's why dontdrinkbeer exists.

If you want to do the pot-kettle-black throwdown thing we can definitely do that.

First, it's about the context of his reviews. He's not trying to try a full 5 paragraph essay on the intimate details of a beer. Simply, don't read his reviews looking for that. He's trying short reviews based on quick 2-4 oz. tastings.

This is a bad premise. You can't review anything properly with just a 2oz or 4oz serving. I maintain that position, and I'll argue it all day.

If you want to argue the premise that you actually can have a meaningful review from a 2oz or 4oz sample, let's hash it out.

If you want to talk about snobbery and beer fuck-wankery, let's talk about the tickers that treat beer like something that needs to be ticked. After all, a brewer might spend hundreds of hours brewing the beer, busting their ass to craft this delicious product, only to have some Ratebeer ticker sample 2oz of it and assign the beer a meaningless score.

Brewer: spends hundreds of hours making a bourbon-barrel stout. designs a recipe from scratch, spends countless hours gathering ingredients.

Ratebeer ticker with 2oz sample: tastes like a stout, okay 3.4/5.0

You can see this proof of concept with the response to Sierra Nevada's beer camp. "A bunch of average beers. 3.0/5.0." Or see the beer community's thoughts on Sam Adams or Dogfish Head. Now that's snobbery.

Second, your last sentences are highly presumptuous and outright rude. The man clearly has a passion for a beer. After having and reviewed that many beer, he surely has at least an opinion worth listening to.

Hey, maybe you can meet up with him, and you two can discuss how Heady Topper tastes 8 weeks after canning.

[–]dar482 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

What's pretentious about finding out how a beer evolves and changes with time? You're the one going on about writing long reviews about beers.

This is a bad premise. You can't review anything properly with just a 2oz or 4oz serving. I maintain that position, and I'll argue it all day.

Alright, so we're just not going to agree. I don't know about your palate, but much can be extracted from even just smelling a beer. You can see how sommeliers can gather much from aroma and small tastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNmcCCE15E

Again, it really depends on context and what you want to get out of a review. If you really want something extremely in depth, then you probably want more than 4 oz. I'd actually be curious to see how you write reviews if that's the case. Please share.

[–]TakesJonToKnowJuan 1 ポイント2 ポイント

What's pretentious about finding out how a beer evolves and changes with time? You're the one going on about writing long reviews about beers.

You're right, deep down I appreciate your weekly Heady Topher updates more than some Dutch guy's useless ticker reviews.

But you're giving yourself way too much credit. No one cares about the weekly variance of Heady Topper, we all know that IPAs degrade over time. It's the other stuff, the video itself, the presentation, that is blissfully lacking self-awareness.

But whatever, this is a tangent.

Alright, so we're just not going to agree.

Right, so you don't actually have an argument. You just have an opinion. You aren't going to refute my premise, or defend yours.

Again, my premise is simple: you cannot properly review a beer with a 2oz to 4oz sample.

Come at me, tickers.

[–]baked_potato_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I use to do this with my ex. I was able to try double the amount of beer at the belgian beer festival. However the next morning I had double the hangover.