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[–]uniquecannon2nd Amendment Activist 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Sometimes it feels like I'm subbed to /r/Judaism.

Edit: Scratch that. /r/Judaism is less hostile towards Islam than this sub. They don't even consider Islam a problem in the war. Just Hamas.

[–]papermageling 5 ポイント6 ポイント

On the other hand, as a Jew, /r/islam makes me very sad. I see a lot of flat out anti-semitism and conspiracy theories when I go on there (like, some really think that Jews paid by Israel are messing with their vote counts???). I think a lot of us know at least a few really wonderful Muslims in real life, which makes /r/islam's craziness all the more annoying.

[–]uniquecannon2nd Amendment Activist 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I normally stay away from there. Much like how /r/atheist, or many other subs work, Reddit is almost like a magnet for crazy.

As I've mentioned before, I support statehood for both Israel and Palestine, but blame Hamas and Netanyahu for all the problems. Just me being cool with Israel existing wouldn't fly in /r/Islam.

[–]rljkeimig 13 ポイント14 ポイント

Well using Islam to justify murder really isn't helping it's or their own case.

[–]uniquecannon2nd Amendment Activist -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

True. But we don't condemn Christianity over the Westboro Baptist Church. I wouldn't mind joining in on the Hamas hate, but the conservation is usually geared more towards the religion than it is towards Hamas. I definitely agree with all of you over when it comes to the group's actions, but you're gonna find these types of dicks regardless of where you look. The reason that Islam is spotlighted as having "more dicks" is merely the media only showing the Bloods and Crips of the demographic, and ignoring the hundreds of millions of Muslims who only want to live their lives day to day in peace.

Most people who actually know a Muslim are normally less caustic, but the stereotype of the few are normally projected on the many, and it's hard to argue against that type of thinking. Hence why the left associate all white Christians as homophobic, gun-toting racists, and the right associate all us Muslims as Caliphate-demanding, "Death To America" terrorists. The world is not so black and white. If both the left and the right were accurate about each religion, would the world really continue to exist with some semblance of peace if there were 4 billion assholes running around?

[–]FonsecaTheGreat 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Christianity breeds a few violent radicals every few decades, Islam breeds violent radicals every few minutes. Westboro Baptist church is an isolated group that is less than 0.0001 percent (not an exact figure) of modern Christianity (and in truth are not Christian at all) meanwhile there are armys of radical Muslims large enough to threaten nations.

Edit: I know a lot of Muslims and in high school my best friend was a devout Muslim. Islam can be a peaceful religion but for a lot of its followers its not

[–]uniquecannon2nd Amendment Activist 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Look at it like this. Christianity is prevalent in more developed nations, while Islam has a strong foothold in more impoverished, war-torn countries. Statistically, you are more likely able to read in a developed nation.

Putting this into the equation, if a Christian misbehaves, most other western Christians can just read the Bible and know that it's wrong. A poor Muslim who can't read the Quran can only rely on what their leadership interprets to them, and unfortunately leadership in poor Muslim countries are beyond corrupt and are willing to mislead their followers. Not to say there aren't corrupt Christian leaders, but they have a harder time misleading a more educated congregate.

This isn't the definitive answer of what wrong with Muslims, but it is major issues among issues.

[–]BabalonRising -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Christianity breeds a few violent radicals every few decades, Islam breeds violent radicals every few minutes.

I'd say the present difference between the two bodies (on the whole) has less to do with the merits or demerits of the particular religions (and their multitude of inner subdivisions), and more to do with the fact that the Muslim world is largely pre-modern, tribal, and poor.

Indeed, one can even point to specific parts of the Muslim world whose fortunes went down the toilet in fairly recent history (largely due to the aftermath of WWI) and readily see a relationship between the falling of living standards correlating to a rise in not simply religiosity, but virulent forms that reflected the anger and paranoia of the people.

One may even say that the rise of certain infamous brands of Islam (ex. "takferi" movement) represent less an expression of "traditional Islam" and something more like a modern heresy. Or put less subjectively, they are fairly modern religious movements, that began essentially as angry responses to fairly recent historical events.

Westboro Baptist church is an isolated group that is less than 0.0001 percent (not an exact figure) of modern Christianity (and in truth are not Christian at all) meanwhile there are armys of radical Muslims large enough to threaten nations.

Well at present, I'd say the real targets of "Islamic terror" are other Muslims.

Nor do I think the scattered "jihadi" movements pose much of a threat to any modern military, even those of the poorer countries. The problem with these groups is almost never one involving them behaving as "armies" that could pose a conventional military threat.

Edit: I know a lot of Muslims and in high school my best friend was a devout Muslim. Islam can be a peaceful religion but for a lot of its followers its not

Well aside from growing up with plenty of Muslim kids in my school, the area I live in has long has a sizable (and often quite visible, due to the garb of their more conservative members) Muslim community. And guess what? The sky isn't falling!

While I can understand how some Christians may not appreciate the competition from another "one true religion" (I mean, what a slap in the face, right? - that's our schtick!), the truth is that Islam and Muslims are as amendable by modernity and good living standards as Christians and Christianity are.