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[–]TeaPartyOverlord 72 ポイント73 ポイント

Because you're going to vote Democrat no matter what happens to you, so they have no reason to do anything else but let you suffer.

[–]ux4 37 ポイント38 ポイント

A nice sentiment, but I have the strangest feeling that they are not arguing in favor of some conservative notion of independnece from government, but rather, "Why are you wasting shit loads of taxpayer money on them? Waste shit loads of taxpayer money on me instead."

[–]PericlesATX 18 ポイント19 ポイント

At least they are Americans.

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    [–]Trillen 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    Dude not the place for that kind of humor.

    [–]Packin_Penguin -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    I understand the historical reference, but I tried to do the math to bring his bad joke full circle. I don't think is physically possible to have the genes work out to exactly 3 parts American and exactly 2 parts African (assuming you consider them both to both be descendents of pure race parents)

    Maybe the top comment from the top post over at /r/askscience will know...little help /u/RedDeadMedemption

    Edit: the deleted post made a historical reference to the days when blacks only got a 3/5 vote.

    [–]Flameon3k 13 ポイント14 ポイント

    The majority americans, black or white, want to work and earn a good living. Don't buy into the whole black people are lazy thing that gets pushed on this subreddit. It absolutely feeds into the stigma that conservatives are racist when it is common on this sub to call all black people lazy.

    [–]stevenp23 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    This is true, i have had friends where both family members were working and they still needed welfare to help them get by. And these people were not living past their means, they were hard working people. It is just the people who feed off the system and do nothing to try and work that make the system messed up.

    [–]Flameon3k 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I definitely agree, there should be maybe diminishing returns on welfare (so the first month or two you get the most, then it stars slowly being lowered as time goes on unless you're disabled etc.).

    Of course disability fraud is a whole different topic.

    [–]negativereddit 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    This. We still can't ignore the existence of scumbags who don't want to earn a legitimate living. They screw over everyone else.

    [–]NYCMiddleManLibertarian Conservative 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Not wrong. But if we both believe that there's a point at which we simply can't "invent" more money to spend on yet another entitlement class, then we're in violent agreement with them.

    The fact is we're over-stretched. In debt. And unless the economy takes off real big, real quick, we're in trouble. And what resources we have, and generally agree should be used as a safety net, the argument that those funds should go to Americans, first, is a very sound argument indeed.

    [–]dmoss84 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    Because they already have the blacks votes...

    [–]PolymarchosMonarchist 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    Because Obama hates black people.

    But he's not racist. He also hates white people, and the illegals come just to become little more than slave labour, so logically he hates them too.

    Really he just hates people.

    [–]MiyegomboBayartsogt 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    No. You're incorrect. Potentate Obama only hates American people. He doesn't hate foreigners unless those foreigners want to come to America. Then he hates them too. Obama loves himself and he loves the rich man he sees in the mirror. Those two people he loves.

    [–]negativereddit 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    He's like reddit. He loves America but he's too forceful. He gives us the hug of death.

    [–]ThruHiker 25 ポイント26 ポイント

    Bolsheviks means majority in Russian. They weren't the majority until they call themselves the majority. The democrats have called themselves the party that cares about afro-americans for 40 years. The facts have nothing to do with reality. The black family is destroyed, the education system is substandard, jobs are non-existent, and prisons are full of young black men. Still, the democrats can count on their vote. Has any group of people rewarded their oppressors the way the black community has the democrats?

    [–]AKSasquatchLibertarian 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    yessss yessss, it's finally happening!! It was only a matter of time!

    [–]m_friedman 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    Translation: We want the freebies, not the illegal Latinos. If 3.7 billion is being given away, we want a piece of that. Remember we're oppressed, struggling, and our ancestors had to be slaves about 150 years ago.

    [–]leon_oswald 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Did I miss something? Why are illegals and the border such a hot topic right now? I know it's always been in issue but did some legislation or event at border happen recently?

    [–]Bookwormy13Libertarian Conservative 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    Illegals (children, even though most look like teenagers) are being dumped by busloads into the U.S., and Obama wants 3.7 billion to take care of them. They are also getting bussed to cities all over the U.S. and border control can't do a damn thing about it. It's basically an invasion going on.

    [–]macklesmore 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Roughly 40000 un-accompanied honduran, guatemalen, and el salvadoran children have illegally tried to immigrate to the US based on the false (or maybe not so false) pretext that they will be allowed to stay. Some 12000 mexican kids have tried the same but have been bused back. The law signed by bush in 2008 makes it a little more difficult because the kids have to be processed in order to limit human trafficking if they're not from mexico. Some democrats are saying they should be allowed to stay as refugees because the situations in their countries are so bad (highest murder and violence rates in the world). Meanwhile republicans are calling for deportations quicker and not spending so much money on processing them to send them back. Obama has been criticized for not going to the border to see the problem. He's criticizing the republicans for not bringing a bill to solve the problem.

    In the end, nobody is doing anything but blaming the other guy, which makes for good cable news ratings.

    [–]leon_oswald 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Sounds like a shitty situation for everyone. It's too bad too because American policies (like the war on drugs) only perpetuate violence south of the border. We really need to start addressing the systemic issues then we wouldn't have to deal with as many of these types of issues.

    [–]nghtst1070 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Who told them this ? Why now ? Something stinks about this happening all at once.

    [–]Magycian -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    because

    squirrel!!

    [–]PonderousHajj 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Because of the law.

    [–]PennIT 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Right.... When has the law mattered to President Obama?

    [–]wyrtygyr 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Sorry, you sold your soul for an Obamaphone, and the devil no longer has any interest in you.

    [–]freestinkers2 5 ポイント6 ポイント

    They still don't understand. They are crying foul cause Obama wants to spend almost $4B on illegals. Okay they got that. Here is where this group went foul. They don't understand that Obama wants to spend $4B on illegals that are taking jobs away from our children. Where is that outcry? Or somebody can say Obama is spending $4B on illegals to do jobs that un or under educated people won't do because they have figured out that the govt pays more to sit at home if you keep having babies. This group is calling for the relief of only blacks. They might be racist? The working class in America is taking a beating and nobody cares. Oh you hear Berry on TV talking about the middle class, yet the emperor has lost his clothes and everyone knows he is a Marxist. Marxist is against the middle class.

    Obama is in bed with corporations to provide cheap labor. Gotta get this economy rolling some how. I mean how revised quarter of - what? Get two quarter in the red and Bush's recession reared it's ugly head again. HA!!!

    [–]negativereddit 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    $4 billion / 50,000 illegal kids = $80,000/kid

    How does that make sense to anyone? This is exactly why the government can't be trusted to do things efficiently.

    [–]freestinkers2 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    It took me almost 4 years after the Army to make 80k in one year, these little bastards walk across the border and here you go!

    The money is going towards the contracts to feed and to house these so called kids.

    [–]negativereddit 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    They're not giving directly to the kids, they're spending it on them. Also, you're overpaid.

    [–]freestinkers2 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Living the dream my friend!

    [–]DonnieS1 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    Illegals are more deserving in the eyes of Obama.

    [–]Ohyou_stop 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    They suffer because they vote democrat. Also, appear to be really lazy.

    [–]BJUmholtzFuck Progressives 7 ポイント8 ポイント

    There is a difference between laziness and a sense of entitlement. Both are toxic, however.

    [–]Ohyou_stop 9 ポイント10 ポイント

    They tend to come as a package deal.

    [–]bunker_manCommunitarian -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Not really. Plenty of people who work hard are still entitled and think that that means they deserve more than they do.

    [–]h1techl0wlife 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    [–]BJUmholtzFuck Progressives 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Welcome to the Republican party.