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No hope for peace until Hamas is gone (self.Palestine)

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[–]cgmcnama 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Maybe Hamas is representative of a majority of Palestinians living there today? I wish they were more pragmatic but we can't just erase a political party we disagree with.

I believe Hamas and many militants believe they will eventually win over time. Maybe not this generation, or the next, but eventually.

[–]Mintyhalls[S] 31 ポイント32 ポイント

Maybe Hamas is representative of a majority of Palestinians living there today?

Then that shows deep problems in Gazan society.

I believe Hamas and many militants believe they will eventually win over time.

This is completely delusional. We need to deal with facts on the ground not pie in the sky thinking.

[–]cgmcnama 1 ポイント2 ポイント

My last sentence was poorly phrased but that seems to be the jist of many Hamas leaders. It is a war of attrition which they believe they will win over time, God willing.

I agree peace won't happen with Hamas in power but it won't necessarily happen with them gone either. You start quoting scripture and saying your entitled to something and reason goes out the door.

[–]harsh2k5 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

This is completely delusional. We need to deal with facts on the ground not pie in the sky thinking.

Your dismissal of the last popularly elected Palestinian political party belies this point.

[–]walrus99 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Then that shows deep problems in Gazan society.

I would say being constantly bombed,starved, imprisoned in a small piece of land by Israel, their land, homes and farms stolen, pushed to the edge of extermination is their deepest problem by far.

[–]ReasonableInference 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Maybe Hamas is representative of a majority of Palestinians living there today? I wish they were more pragmatic but we can't just erase a political party we disagree with.

Maybe. But a fair election in 2014 would help determine that. Hamas was elected almost 10 years ago running against Fateh on a reform platform. Now Hamas is just as corrupt as Fateh was - and the Palestinians living in Gaza are in worse shape (plenty of that is Israel's fault, but the point remains). Its quite possible that the Palestinians in Gaza would choose someone else to represent them today.