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Extremely choppy flash playback in FF? (self.firefox)

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[–]xeeon 1 ポイント2 ポイント

In Windows 7 I had choppy flash playback too but I narrowed it down to plugin container.exe that's running. After forcing Firefox not to initiate that process by adding "MOZ_DISABLE_OOP_PLUGINS" without the quotes and set to 1 as an environmental variable it's now fine.

Mozilla really needs to fix these types of problems instead of continuously messing with the UI that just annoys people or their market share will be down to zero.

[–]DrDichotomous 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If you paid attention to their bugtracker, you'd see they're constantly fixing these kinds of bugs. It's ok to be mad about one thing they did wrong, but that doesn't justify pretending that they aren't doing anything good.

[–]xeeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You don't seem to understand doctor. As a firefox diehard I do not want to see the browser go the way of Netscape but it will if they don't concentrate their resources on the things users care about instead of those they don't, like the UI. Who exactly was complaining about the user interface that it required such a change?

As for bugs: I've filed a few myself but who has the time to keep doing that, especially when so many get ignored or rejected? Flash is basic, millions of people use it daily and expect it to work, when it doesn't they go somewhere else, fast. How many do you think take the time to add MOZ_DISABLE_OOP_PLUGINS to environment variables?

[–]DrDichotomous 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You're not much of a die-hard fan if you think that way. You just want YOUR pet bugs to be fixed, and would rather obsess about one thing you don't like (Australis) in order to make it sound like that's all Mozilla is doing. They don't "care" about you, apparently. Therefore they must not care about any of their users. I mean, how could anyone want something you don't want? How could other bugs possibly be more important than yours? Everyone must be experiencing those bugs too!

In the meantime, the bulk of users don't seem to be having these Flash issues you speak of. Yet Mozilla gave you a (hacky) workaround to use while they figure out how Adobe's junk is causing a mess this time. They're also working feverishly on Shumway and HTML5 video so we won't need Flash anymore. But apparently none of that is good enough. Mozilla must be dying by their own hand. It couldn't possibly be because their fans have lost the will to commit the time it takes to customize Firefox, or wait for devs to fix their pet bugs.

[–]xeeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Sorry doctor but you appear as a shill who won't tolerate any criticism of Mozilla devs and who attacks constantly other posters, no matter how legitimate their complaints.

As a matter of fact, I can confirm many of them, including extremely slow startup of the recent nightlies, flash problems, much larger memory usage, even with the same exact addons as 24 ESR, sluggish javascript, especially on pages with comments from disqus along with choppy scrolling. You may think it’s only 1 or 2 stragglers like myself experiencing these problems but I see them brought up over and over on every forum whenever Firefox is the topic.

Does this mean I’m personally dropping Firefox? Absolutely not, it’s still even with its faults far better for me than Chrome or IE. In fact, I’m quite happy with v31 with CTR installed and an updated theme for Australis that I’ve been using for years. Since it’s going into ESR this fall I’ll be using that for a while.

But, the developers would be wise if they want to keep market share and grow again to take these complaints seriously and stop with the UI changes. I hear there’s even more on the way. For the non-geek and average user it’s far easier to move to something else than try to constantly work around the changes and bugs.

[–]DrDichotomous 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Right right. I'm a shill because I dare tell you to stop insisting that your pet problems are the only ones that matter, that not everyone wants them solved over other bugs, and that being obsessively negative about a product is tiresome.

If you actually read my posts you'd know that I agree that there are many problems, and that they need fixing, and that I even (gasp!) try to help people solve those problems when I can. But whatever, I'm a shill because I don't adhere to your worldview, apparently.

Go on. Continue harping on about "UI changes" like they're the only focus of Mozilla and the only reason that market share is dwindling. You go ahead and tell people who disagree with you and try to point out that it's not all negative that they're "shills". I don't think I've ever seen you say one positive thing about Firefox or Mozilla, what does that make you?

[–]xeeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Like I said, you're a shill. Only the problems YOU find must exist and be real. Everyone else's are just sour grapes.

If you read my previous post, it wasn't only the UI, although as Microsoft with their Windows 8 fiasco found out, arbitrary "change for the sake of change" does not play well. No, I mentioned at least five substantial additional problems that I and many other users are experiencing. People are moving away in droves and there's a reason for it. Google was previously stealing most of its users from IE but now they're getting the Firefox ones too. Not good.

[–]DrDichotomous 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No, now you're just making up whatever you want to try to discredit me. You don't even know what my problems are with Firefox. I've even gone on record several times saying that Australis was a botched project. You just don't like it when someone calls you out on your constant passive aggressive anti-Australis attitude.

You can couch it all your want in your preachy "my worldview must be right" treacle, limiting your examples of controversial UI changes to Windows 8.1 like some cheap Godwin-style attack. But if you can't even acknowledge that Mozilla and Firefox are worth using, and must take every chance to be negative about it, then don't blame me for telling you to shut up once in a while.

I actually see what Mozilla has done well, as well as what they've done wrong. I just don't mistake MY issues as the ones that need to be prioritized over others. I don't try to make it sound like Mozilla is ignoring me just because I have a chip on my shoulder. I even actually try to support Mozilla once in a while. If you need to call me a shill for that, then I'll gladly be your shill.

[–]xeeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

One comment was made that the developers need to focus on the problems real everyday people are experiencing if they want keep market share and you go off on a temper tantrum. You must be a Mozilla developer with hurt feelings or someone with psychological problems. I'm going with the former and if I'm right then take the advice so many are giving, forget the UI and deal with the issues people are complaining about. Most of us are here because we want Firefox to succeed, not fail.

[–]DrDichotomous 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Whatever. Not my fault if you don't like hearing something that's not immediately in agreement with you. Enjoy your life, and calling others mentally ill because you can't form any better arguments.