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[–]Somedouchebagg 32 ポイント33 ポイント

I appreciate the intent but you guys really have to stop with stereotyping of anybody who looks dorky. Being fat and having shit fashion sense doesn't mean you hate women

[–]Deprogrammer9 18 ポイント19 ポイント

Yeah, I kinda agree with this! WTF, ANARCHISTS DON'T DO THIS SHIT!

[–]zolfe -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Appearance shaming and virgin shaming are quite common among both the far right and far left.

[–]flying-sheep 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Yeah, everything i know about MLP is that they promote the value of friendship.

Fuck those fedora wearing neckbeards, right?

[–]"Nerdy Marxist"MarxEnglesLenin 1 ポイント2 ポイント

To be fair, I don't think they watch the show for "friendship"

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede 0 ポイント1 ポイント

There's a difference between a brony and a fan of MLP

[–]flying-sheep 1 ポイント2 ポイント

So what? We shouldn't discriminate against either.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede 2 ポイント3 ポイント

nah bronies are scum

[–]flying-sheep 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Wat

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Bronies invaded and took over what was meant to be a safe and healthy environment for little girls to learn about friendship and sharing. It was meant to be a show that little girls could watch without the influence of older men. It was created by girls, for girls. How many opportunities are there for female writers and animators to create a show tailored to the growth and development of little girls?

Bronies took over a safe space for children and turned it into their own playground. The ponies are representing six little girls — six children — and Bronies have turned them into a sexual fantasy. Fuck, someone created a blog turning one of the princesses into a sexual predator as a ~joke~. Men have made felt ponies that they can literally fuck. They draw crude and disgusting fan art. They roleplay the ponies fucking each other. They took a children’s cartoon and made it sexual, which I view as extremely pedophilic.

And now bronies are expecting special treatment and recognition from Lauren Faust and everyone else involved with the show, and even accusing A SHOW ABOUT GIRLS FOR GIRLS of misandry. MISANDRY. Because men’s opinions aren’t voiced or relevant; because the male characters on the show aren’t the main characters; because the creators are trying their damndest to keep that show for little girls. Apparently having specifically female-centered content is misandry.

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic had the potential to be revolutionary. But of course, men had to come in and fuck it all up. Again. Because God fucking forbid girls have a tiny sliver of something especially for them.

tl;dr - kill Bronies.

[–]ihateusernamesalot 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Real talk

[–]DirtyPolecat 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Debating the tough issues of society...cartoon ponies.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede 0 ポイント1 ポイント

And what are you doing exactly?

[–]ihateusernamesalot 0 ポイント1 ポイント

disingenuous as fuck.

and if it really were so petty, why participate?

[–]FractalBloom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

There's a difference between a brony and a fan of MLP

True, very true. I'd say the community is an important dividing line. I'm a cartoonist and animation student and I enjoy the show now and again -- it's beautifully written, scored, and animated, and at first glance the SFW sections of the creative strains seem alright. However upon closer inspection the internet brony subculture as a whole -- as you rightly mentioned -- can be downright toxic at times, so I'd prefer to distance myself from that label, though I think the show itself has a wonderful message.

That said, while it may not be sexist to claim males should stay away from material intended primarily for a female audience (insofar as "sexism" toward men does not exist) it is certainly a bit of a narrow point of view which fits people back into those same gender boxes that radical thinking hopes to deconstruct in hopes of a future that sees people freed from the constraints of their assigned gender and allowed to do what they please. Besides, the show's creator never intended to create a show accessible only to girls, just one that (refreshingly) tells things from girls' perspective and gives them the primary focus, which is something it does wonderfully.

Of course, its focus on girls is what makes it unique, and that should be preserved. Doesn't mean only girls can benefit from it, but it has more to offer for them. The MRA types claiming "misandry" are fools and completely missing the point.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I don't think anyone wants men not to watch MLP in private, we'd just prefer if they stopped wiping their dicks all over it.

[–]FractalBloom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Definitely true. Hell, if the internet fanart community as a whole could quit wiping its collective dick all over everything from kids' cartoons to goddamned household appliances, that'd be fantastic.

[–]flying-sheep 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Bronies are just male fans, nothing more, nothing less. It's uninformed and prejudiced to claim they're all fetishists.

Furthermore, “a safe and healthy environment” is bullshit: we're talking about fans of a TV show, not members of a club or website or some other group of people that is actually interacting somehow.

Then “by women for girls” is sexist shit – are you not allowed to enjoy a fucking TV show because of your gender?

Also, listen what the show's creator said about bronies:

I checked in regularly (strategically ignoring unsavory material as best I could) and pointed it out to some other members of the crew. Then came Equestria Daily and Ponychan. I couldn’t believe how the fandom was spreading - or the amazing creativity that was coming out of it! It was just such a FASCINATING turn of events, and I was simply riveted.

And finally: no, I didn't watch a single episode, am neither fat nor identify as brony or wear fedoras: I just like to do research in order to point out hypocrisy.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Then “by women for girls” is sexist shit

ahahhahaha

go home to /r/mensrights

[–]flying-sheep -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Unless it's indeed a physical or virtual safe place that gives women in need a place to be, there's no reason why something should be denied to men.

/r/mensrights is a shithole, and I don't get why you're trying to put some label on me and belittle me: I want to see fucking arguments or stfu and stop bullying me.

[–]DirtyPolecat -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Are you serious? It's a fucken cartoon. There are a lot more weird things floating around on the internet. Okay, so some people like to fuck stuffed animals, it's not new. The question is, was anyone coerced into sexual activity? Is anyone being oppressed by someone fucking a stuffed pony or masturbating to fantasy pony art? No? Then GTFO.

Of all people, I would have thought anarchists would be the most open to sexual kinks, as long as it didn't harm anyone.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede -1 ポイント0 ポイント

'So I just got back last night from a brony convention in San Francisco. I was working a booth for a vendor friend, and let me tell you what happened:

We met a little girl who was there with her family. She got a button drawn at our booth, told us all about her favorite ponies, and was overall just too damn cute. She had an MLP lanyard filled with pins she’d gotten in the vendor’s room, and gave me a Fluttershy pin because she liked my cosplay. She ended up just hanging out with us for a while and bein’ super cute. We call her Babby because she’s 11 and precious. The next day, she runs up to the booth, terrified, and asks if she can please hide under our table for a few minutes. Turns out a dude had been following her around the con all day, and tried to get her to come up to his hotel room. Alone. She tells us she thought he was okay at first because he was wearing an MLP shirt, but she didn’t want to go anywhere with him, and he made her uneasy. At one point, after she’d refused, he grabbed her arm in the elevators and tried to get her to follow him. She ran, and now she wants somewhere to hide. We tell her of course, hurry her behind our booth and fucking station ourselves around her because she’s eleven years old and all of us are prepared to physically attack the human trashheap who tries to fuck with her. We’re all dressed up in wings and ears and we’re 100000% prepared to rip them off and launch across that table to defend this kid. Eventually this very large dude strolls by, very obviously looking around, and she quietly points him out to us. At this point I’m ready to set him on fire, but when I ask if she needs me to go report him, she shakes her head. She doesn’t want to get in trouble, or make anyone mad. We see him a few more times over the course of the day, because he keeps meandering over to our booth and just casually looking around. Eventually he actually stops to take a flier from our table and asks us a question, and we coldly send him on his way. We start sending a coworker with Babby whenever her parents aren’t around and she wants to go check out artist’s alley or the vendor’s hall. Because otherwise she’s not safe. She can’t run around and freely enjoy a convention about a show aimed at her, because instead of being surrounded by peers she’s somehow surrounded by men who pose a threat to her. My point here: this is why I fucking hate “bronies.” Because grown-ass men are flooding into a space carved out for children—often little girls—and are making it unsafe for them.

I met a lot of non-awful people there, of course. I met a lot of parents and older siblings. A lot of adorable little boys who were happy to empathize with female characters, and a lot of little kids who wanted a picture with cosplays of their favorite pony. I met a lot of people who were cool and nice and just liked cartoons. I met a male Pinkie Pie cosplayer with a Fluttershy lady-friend who juggled and spun plates and was happy to entertain kids, and were generally just really cool people. But I also met a lot of skeevy dudebros. A lot of guys in fedoras loudly discussing sexual shit in a room with children. Guys who drew/sold/displayed really fucking inappropriate “fanart,” including gross bodypillows that had no purpose in a little kids’ toy convention. I met a guy who gushed with absolute glee about the pleasure he derives from “corrupting innocence.” I met a lot of people who wanted to take something sweet and nice for children and make it about THEM. A lot of guys who wanted to make it about their dicks. People who made it UNSAFE for the intended audience to even be in attendance. So yeah. If you call yourself a brony, I’m prolly not gonna trust you. Because I’ve seen y’all in action, and I am not impressed. Frankly I’m infuriated. This is like a bunch of gross neckbeards swarming Disneyland and shoving kids out of the way so they can grope Cinderella, and finding nothing wrong with it because they think they’re entitled to it. My Little Pony is a really cute show with a lot of nice messages for kids, and gross brony shitweasels are trying to fucking take it from them by force. And I will fight them.'

[–]DirtyPolecat -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Then let's debate the ones who like to stalk and abuse children, not adults who like to play with themselves while looking at sexual pony art while not hurting anyone. Major difference, one is coercion and oppression on somebody who doesn't want anything to do with it, the other is not.

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[–]exiledarizona -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

It's not that I don't agree with you but if the drawing was of a Calvin Klein model getting his ass kicked it would be even less true to life. This is sort of one of those moments where people can learn that people aren't perfect, everyone is a little fucked up and no matter how pure you think you are in your ideology puritanism is just religious and really doesn't exist.

[–]blacker_ramza 0 ポイント1 ポイント

idc about the imagery in the badge but it's worth pointing out mras don't look like calvin klein models. they could have picked 'old white dude' as the imagery, that is basically what most mras look like anyway. in fact, their "leader" has a fairly recognizable face i would wear the shit out of a badge with him on it

[–]fake_sjw 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Paul elan is a shit who's only redeeming feature is that he is mortal so one day he will leave this world.

[–]i’m not interested in being polite or heterosexualVoltairinede 1 ポイント2 ポイント

he has a punchable face

[–]jtylerblue 2 ポイント3 ポイント

A Backpfeifengesicht.

[–]exiledarizona 1 ポイント2 ポイント

yeah im not disagreeing, i just think people make these images that probably conflict with their ideals a bit based on their actual real prejudices that are OK in their peer group

[–]Grymalkin 0 ポイント1 ポイント

But it totes aligns with my ideals to reign bloody violence upon men who who wear flame shirts.