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Australian documentary(2014) - Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. (youtube.com)
submitted 3 時間 前 by let_me_love_her
[–]BaconWrapedAsparagus 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 21 分 前
ITT people bashing religion. Blaming this violence on religion is like blaming the milk for spilling. It's people who are responsible for this, driven by a combination of misplaced nationalism and an ongoing skirmish over a disputed territory. To try and blame this horrible violence on religion is to, in a way, relinquish responsibility from the individual committing these crimes by shifting the blame away from him. For instance, if an israeli soldier shot a child and this was printed in the news as "Israeli army shoots child", that man is not being held responsible and the blame is shifted to a general idea that can't be directly pointed out. Also, from what I have seen so far of this documentary, it is incredibly biased and only shows one side of the battle, but then again, Australian based news tends to do this pretty often (think news corp).
[–]DanAffid -7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 1 時間 前
From the same film:
http://youtu.be/iqL048x4msM?t=21m24s
3 Year old girl paralysed for life after being stoned by Palestinians . Should the headline be "Palestinians stomping on the heads of Jewish girls" instead?
[–]let_me_love_her[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 1 時間 前
This is why it is a pretty good documentary as they showed both sides effected.
To answer your question I would say its about the state's actions towards the people its ruling. Why is there a difference between a Jewish child and a Palestinian child if they are being ruled by the same, that is racism at its peak.
[–]BaconWrapedAsparagus 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 14 分 前
It did a very poor job at showing both sides, the fact that the title is "Israelis torturing non-Jewish children" is more than enough to call the film biased
[–]ieatatoms 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前
So why then title your post "Israelis torturing non-Jewish children"? Perhaps to allow us to go into the documentary with an open mind?
[–]TacticalSniper -8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 1 時間 前
Since Palestinian Authority has autonomous control over the C territories, it can hardly be said that Israel rules over those people. However, when speaking about Israeli Palestinians, the judgement is - and should be - the same.
[–]ImTheHungriest 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1 時間 前
As long as it's a "territory" it can hardly be said they rule over themselves....
[–]champlifier 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 10 分 前
The Illegal settlements need to be wiped out and the Israeli war criminals executed for their crimes.
[–]monkeypaws 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 50 分 前
Religion fucking poisons EVERYTHING.
[–]leeenks -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 7 分 前
Yh Right??????
Look at how wonderful life was in all the non religious states during the 20th century: Soviet Union, North Korea, China, Albania, Cuba, Cambodia.
All wonderful places to live!!!!!!
[–]LiterallyFuckPandas -8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 1 時間 前
I'm sure Jewish people are treated great in Palestine
[–]Ohcanada69 -6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 時間 前
You cant say whenever someone does something bad and when you point it out say your anti-semetic. looooooool First of all arabs are considered semetic. Second most jewish people in Israel are Khazar loool who are not semetic. If anything this is Anti-zionist. JewsAgainstZionism.org NKUSA.org
[–]billythemarlin[🍰] 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 22 分 前
second most jewish people in Israel are Khazar
Go back to Stormfront with your unscientific bullshit.
[–]danaofdoom 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 8 分 前
I agree with their point that you can be against zionism without being against Jewish people, and they aren't wrong that "Semitic" refers to more than one ethnic group. But the rest of what they said was stupid. For starters, it's spelled "Semitic". And the common usage of "Anti-Semitic" refers to discrimination against Jewish people. So yes, they're technically correct. But language doesn't exist in a bubble. Definitions can change, and the common usage of a word is valid.
I don't know much about the demographics of Israel, but the information is on wikipedia, and it doesn't say anything about Khazars.
[–]billythemarlin[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 分 前
I was only commenting on their mention of Jews being Khazars. It's a popular anti Semitic attack that has been refuted time and time again. Essentially they claim that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazarian converts rather than Semitic Israelites. Despite the fact that genetic testing refutes their contention.
[–]LiterallyFuckPandas -6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 時間 前
I have never seen so much anti semetism than the Youtube comments in that video. Everyone is so one sided. Why can't Palestine and Israel both be to blame?
[–]findingyourlies 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 15 分 前
There is no one 'right' side but there is a major human rights issue at play with this conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAN5GjJKAac I'd suggest exploring Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land first -- It interviews several noted academics and journalists including Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJnSY-lvCJM I'd also suggests PBS Israel and the Arabs. It's a reliable multipart series including trusted western academics and journalists
[–]BaconWrapedAsparagus 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 分 前
much better than the australian documentary
[–]LiterallyFuckPandas 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント just now
Why did I get downvoted?
[–]iqmeister -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7 分 前
This is just disgusting and all, but on unrelated note, I find it amazing that occupying solders actually knock on the door when they come, while in the US SWAT teams don't even bother to that
[–]mw130 -8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 36 分 前
This comment will surely get downvoted, solely proving my point: the media expands on any situation that is pro-Palestine, and puts it on the front page. If it is something anti-Israel, it'll get put on page 6 and be biased. The media is biased pro-Palestine.
[–]Canabien 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 34 分 前
Isn't pro-Palestine and anti-Israel pretty much the same?
[–]findingyourlies 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 26 分 前*
Could you provide any reliable sources or evidence of your statement?
I've followed the conflict closely and I know many reliable western academics and observers that would staunchly disagree with you.
To my mind the academic consensus is largely around the success of Israel's large PR budget in defining pubic opinion in the west.
edit: words
[–]Daewwoo 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 21 分 前*
You should be grateful for that media illusion. It's a major distraction from the reality that Israel is given billions in U.S. bribes every year in support the behavior of its government. You have a point and it doesn't go very far at all because it's a trivial issue relative to the larger problem to which it contributes.
[–]Kekoa_ok -6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 42 分 前*
ITT: Both sides are cruel as shit to children and religion caused all this in a sense.
edit: iv been watching friends from both background in those countries post all this on facebook and bickering and YES IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE THAT CHILDREN ARE FORCED TO BE INVOLVED but im not gonna be fucking biased and say which side is better than the other or that one deserves to be annihalated more than the other. no. this is a cause of borders and religion and is a simple fucking issue that couldve been solved if everyone wasnt a complete ass. (in short.)
[–]DidijustDidthat 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 18 分 前
The cause is clearly the statement "Promised by God". Israel appears to be playing a slow game of making life hell for people in Palestine so they'l leave. I don't know how there is even two sides to argue here. Israel is literally using Nazi techniques to persecute the Palestinians in the name of God. It's easy to blame religion but people in the government are issues orders and people are following those orders... why wouldn't you blame the people?
[–]Kekoa_ok 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 8 分 前
Both sides believe they have a right to land/borders. The Israelis were stuck there when their country was created and have been in dispute for decades with neighbors. That is cintroversial because it was owned land. But both religions and nations see it as holy ground.
As far as i understand a peace treaty or something of the sort was signed a couple back by the goverments but the people didnt listen and continue to fight.
The people are the blame largely, but children should in no way, EVER be involved. Both sides torment children from both sides and end precious lives in the process, it isnt fair.
The way i see it, Israel was given land by other nations in the area if Palestine. Since then theres massive fighting going on and horrors of conflict, but in the name of God and holy areas and the territory. As controversial as it is, Israel is fighting in self defence and has an enemy. Palestine is also seeing it as defence because thats originally their land.
The world decided where Israel is and since then conflict arose.
[–]DidijustDidthat 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 分 前
Did you spend 45 minutes watching this documentary or are you just here to talk about how Israeli settlers are victims?
[–]DAZZLER_DAZ -34 ポイント-33 ポイント-32 ポイント 2 時間 前
ANTI-SEMITIC PROPAGANDA
[–]let_me_love_her[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 2 時間 前
Are you implying that what the documentary shows is not happening? They do show both sides btw so how is this antisemitic propaganda?
[–]thisisme100 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 時間 前
I am hoping that DAZZLER_DAZ is being sarcastic.
[–]thisisme100 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 時間 前
Damn they can sure photoshop well.And their editing of videos is so good they should stop fighting and start going into the movie making business with those amazing skills, you cannot even see where they have been changed you would almost think they were real.
[–]Tripp666 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 24 分 前
Fuck off JIDF
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