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[–][deleted] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

LOL, you're funny...and extremely gullible.

Here's the link to the study (it's free, no pay wall): http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/06/26/peds.2014-1079.full.pdf+html

It shows nothing about "big pharma" paying for it. In fact, you may want to look on page 13 at the financial disclosure and funding section - NO big pharma sponsors...

Maybe you should do your research before positing stuff like this, your credibility has taken a huge hit.

[–]thc1967 8 ポイント9 ポイント

It shows nothing about "big pharma" paying for it...

I looked at page 13 and found:

HHSA290200710062I from the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, US Department of Health and Human Services

Some will mistrust government funded studies just as much as pharma funded, but let's dig deeper...

Google HHSA290200710062I leads to http://government-contracts.findthebest.com/l/2328434/Rand-Corporation-Agency-for-Health-Care-Policy-and-Research-HHSA290200710062I which says:

The Agency for Health Care Policy and Research awarded this $8,103,709 contract to Rand Corporation for Health Services - Applied Research/Exploratory Development and Management Support Services.

Google Rand Corporation leads us to http://www.rand.org/ which is a non-profit researcher. On another page on their site (http://www.rand.org/giving/policy_circle/members.html) they list big donors.

On that page we have in the million plus dollar club (which has exactly 3 names, one of which is "Anonymous"):

Donald Rice, current President and CEO of Agensys, a pharmaceutical company, former President and CEO of UroGenesys who doesn't seem to exist any more but if you Google them you'll find they were a pharma, a former member of the BoD of Amgen, yet another pharma (on whose board he sat when this study was funded)

Follow the money?

[–]lucycohen 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Excellent work THC

[–]axolotl_peyotl[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

your credibility

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Care to respond to /u/thc1967?

[–]thc1967 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Ugh. Please don't drag my name into it more than I do already myself.

He's right. It's a government funded study, not a pharma funded study. Our tax dollars paid for the study.

The strangeness is in the donors to the non-profit that did the study, specifically one of 3 names (one of which is "anonymous") in the massive donors section. If he was in the $10-99k section, I wouldn't think twice about it. But he's in the million plus section so I do.

That doesn't necessarily mean something untoward happened, but it is an interesting financial link.

[–]lucycohen 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Never heard of RAND then John?

[–]axolotl_peyotl[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント

This guy really gets off on attempting to destroy my "credibility" (as if anyone on reddit has any credibility to begin with...)

Also, this post was brigaded, naturally.

[–]lucycohen 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Yes, they love to take the top comment which always has an unrealistic number of votes next to it, making it seem to mildly interested passers-by that the content has been debunked

[–][deleted] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Sock puppet account?

[–]lucycohen -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Like you? Nope, real honest posters don't need those

[–][deleted] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Well, you're not an honest poster, are you?

[–][deleted] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

You have zero credibility outside of /r/conspiracy. How many of your posts have been removed from /r/science - a more valid subreddit than this one? Oh, that's right...ALL OF THEM.

Also, your posting history shows you to be quite idiotic - maybe one or two IQ points above mental retardation...MAYBE.

[–]lucycohen 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Your nickname has been on Reddit for 3 days yet you claim to know the history of what's been going on here.

/Science has shill mods, it might as well be renamed /CorporateScience, they remove any science which goes against the mainstream /CorporateScience

[–]thc1967 1 ポイント2 ポイント

And... he ran away and deleted his user name? WTF does that mean?

[–]KeavesSharpi 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It means he was a sock puppet shill account.

[–]DwarvenPirate -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

He decided you guys were NSA.