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[–]onceastreetrat 459 ポイント460 ポイント

I bet they're manipulating reddit too

[–]squirrelrampage 417 ポイント418 ポイント

Of course they are. Or does anyone believe that it is a coincidence that certain moderators get to manage 100+ influential subs at the same time?

[–]Cheaba 103 ポイント104 ポイント

Its certainly possible. Personally I think its just more of a situation of once your a megamod you become part of the super special mod secret society. They all scratch each others back to make sure they stay in charge. As long as they don't allow to much new blood into their ranks at once they don't have to worry about dissent.

[–]EarnMoneySitting 60 ポイント61 ポイント

So...Reddit is the Senate and House of Representatives?

[–]2totwo 7 ポイント8 ポイント

On the other hand.. were we really expecting a democracy?

[–]BarkAndThenMoan 1 ポイント2 ポイント

But... I can vote!

[–]partido 86 ポイント87 ポイント

As an European, I'm becoming more and more afraid of anything I might say freely on the Internet in sites like Reddit or Facebook.

Afraid that one day I might want to go to any country I've talked things about and not get a visa in.

-Remember that on the 1st of July, you said 'Take that, USA'?.

-I'm belgian and it was the WC...

-Sorry, you're not allowed in. You might be a terrorist. Have a nice flight back.

[–]ExdigguserPies 26 ポイント27 ポイント

flight back to guantanamo.

FTFY

[–]SupermansOlderBro -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Guantanamo, guajira Guantanamo

[–]LetsStayAtHome 11 ポイント12 ポイント

I'm not saying they were 100% connected, but the day before I was flying on a business trip I was joking with one of my friends about what would happen if I forgot I had my camping knife strapped around my calf muscle. It was a long back and forth discussion, but anyway, that was the pertinent part. The next day, I'm standing in line to go through the scanners, in my dress pants, button down, dressed for a business trip, etc. and I get pulled aside afterwards and they specifically pat down my legs - from the knees down.

Now I thought this was purely coincidence and laughed it off, told my friend and he thought it was funny. The next day I am traveling back home, wearing a different pair of slacks, and they do the same them. Give me a pat down from the knees down. At this point, I freak out because there is no reason for them to do that. I've worn the same pants through security numerous times before and these were the only times this has happened.

Freaky stuff.

*Ninja edit - forgot to mention the part where my friend and I had the discussions above over Facebook private message

[–]instasquid 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm gonna go with complete coincidence.

[–]LetsStayAtHome 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This is probably 100% accurate. The things they would need to have in place to do this would be:
1) Facial recognition to identify that it was me who just went through the scanner
2) My information ready to go as soon as they scanned my ticket to verify I was standing in line
3) No one else to monitor and felt like harassing a mid-30's white collar employee

[–]ponhawk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

were you talking about this over the phone? Or in person with your phone near by? :O !?!

[–]LetsStayAtHome 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Sorry, this was all done over Facebook messenger

[–]sm9t8 11 ポイント12 ポイント

I don't plan on ever visiting America. Take that US Tourist Board!

[–]ATLaughs 0 ポイント1 ポイント

But...why? :(

[–]sbsisok 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Honestly I can say that the united states is a great place to VISIT, like all places it has it's up's and down's but it's one of the most hospitable nations to foreigners.

[–]argv_minus_one 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Great place to visit until the Blue Mafia decides to ruin your trip...

[–]Tiafves 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Too bad. Now if you ever change your mind they'll consider it suspicious you're visiting wondering what terrorist activity you could be plotting.

[–]Enlightnd 1 ポイント2 ポイント

No,no, that's why I'll never go there again. They might not let you fly back home ... Fuck that.

[–]Dininiful 1 ポイント2 ポイント

You terrorist! How could you say such a thing!

[–]WiglyWorm 0 ポイント1 ポイント

And so close to our birthday, too!

[–]Fudada 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Waffle-related terror is the worst kind of terror

[–]d36williams 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Flight? You have to swim

[–]ArttuH5N1 0 ポイント1 ポイント

"Man, the Presidents' Day party Mike threw was the BOMB!"

"Please step out of the line sir."

[–]CaryGrantLives 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I really can't think of anything more damning than admitting that you're Belgian.

[–]Ambiwlans 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Don't go to the states without a specific reason, 'just to visit' isn't worth the hassle.

[–]orcaecca 0 ポイント1 ポイント

it's more like they're plugging all of your intellectual outputs into a global simulator that constantly needs more datapoints to give accurate feedback

[–]zjbirdwork 0 ポイント1 ポイント

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET. I, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A TERRORIST NOW SO GTFO

[–]Mekongcoke 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If you don't think your posts are not being data mined,you're fooling yourself. If they can put a name to your post might be a different story, unless of course you have your real name attached to the email you gave when you singed up....

[–]SeegurkeK 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Yeah man, I got a flight booked to NYC this year. I won't critizise TSA, NSA or any US-based Three Letter Agency till after that vacation. *ever.

[–]zenthr -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

As an American, if entrance to the US is a problem for those reasons, stay in Europe, because a) it's no longer worth it; and b) you might terrorize me.

[–]bibimmmbop -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Have a nice flight back

Uh, oh.

"From now on you are the potential Class-B suspect of terrorism in the United States territory and under the latest PATRIOT ACT amendment you'll be detained for an unlimited period. Also under EU-USA Treaty on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters you will be interrogated immediately. Take this damn belgian waffle into custody now."

[–]Dusty_Ideas 13 ポイント14 ポイント

This all sounds so familiar...

[–]ReasonablyBadass 11 ポイント12 ポイント

That's because the mechanisms in each and every group fromed by our species are the same.

Corruption is a naturally occuring process, not a conscious decision by a group of people

[–]Dusty_Ideas 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Power corrupts.

[–]bluesub 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Not being corrupt is a conscious decision by both individuals and groups of people. We have a right to demand that those who represent or moderate us choose not to be corrupt, and to remove them through absolutely any means necessary if they are.

[–]sapiophile 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This is why it's long past time for us to abolish the kinds of positions that allow such massive abuse to happen. If there's any hope for real human survival, we must abolish the concentration of power, and strive for vibrant, resilient anarchism.

[–]Spurioun 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That's what most conspiracy theorists don't seem to think about. Just because a lot of powerful people seem to be working in each others best interests doesn't mean they all secretly meet in dark rooms and plan world domination

[–]SasparillaTango 0 ポイント1 ポイント

so what you are saying is we should really be designing systems of power with the inevitable fact that corruption will occur, and there should be a built in mechanism to purge the corruption in a timely and regular manner... like say term limits.

[–]Testiculese 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Just like a politician.

[–]SpudgeBoy 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You just described how the US economy works for the 1%.

[–]Pursuit-of-fappyness 1 ポイント2 ポイント

That's a very suspicous answer, Cheaba...

This man's a shill! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

[–]instasquid 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Didn't you read the original comment? We're all shills, except for you.

[–]solar-ice 89 ポイント90 ポイント

The mods aren't the issue. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that the number of mods who work (directly or indirectly) for Government/corporate interests is reasonably close to 0.

What you need to watch out for is the regular users politely posting reasonable ideas. They're the ones who we listen to, and we base our opinions on things on what we hear from regular users. Therefore, it makes far more sense to make a lot of posts that just slightly bias discussion one way or the other; make comments, upvote/downvote things, etc, according to an agenda, acting like any other user.

Trusting anyone on reddit, or reddit as a community, to provide news and ideas that haven't been manipulated to shit, is a really poor idea. Basing opinions on reddit or any other social media is a poor idea as well. Social media is flooded with propaganda that's so subtle we can't see it.

[–]shadow1515 161 ポイント162 ポイント

What a helpful, unbiased, politely-stated opinion. I find myself agreeing with-

HEY WAIT A MINUTE

[–]Dope_Fiend_Lean -1 ポイント0 ポイント

PM me your tits if you don't want to be considered a spy!

[–]JusJul -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Exactly..Regardless of who they're from, or their goal, if they're posting logical things that you agree with, then it's not like they're brainwashing you.

[–]bozobozo 24 ポイント25 ポイント

How to say fuck you in Washingtonese: trust me.

[–]an_internet_denizen 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Or Ben Kenobi:

"These aren't the facts you're looking for."

These aren't the facts we're looking for.

"Get back to work."

Get back to work.

[–]pawnzz 9 ポイント10 ポイント

It really bothers me how often I'll see something that one user says essentially reposted word for word farther down in a thread. Then it just keeps getting echoed in that thread before spreading to others. It's crazy how quickly ideas can spread and it's not like many people are doing any fact checking.

[–]pok3_smot 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Its why the main tactics of conservative trolls who know they are wrong is to repeat their lie as often as they can in a comment thread hoping omeone doesnt find and correct every instance of their ullshit and some people see it and then post it later themselves thinking it was true.

You can always find one or two guys in a /r/politics thread that have posted the same thing 30-40 times and its just 100% factually untrue. Most of the time at least a little bullshit slips by and possibly taints peoples perceptions.

[–]instasquid 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Let's not kid ourselves, liberals do it too. Remember, it's important that we correct our own side's bullshit as well.

[–]waveswan 5 ポイント6 ポイント

How do I know you're not just trying to make us distrust a free and open source of information which is heavily sceptical of government, huh?

[–]joshg8 1 ポイント2 ポイント

But then how do you account for the heavily critical tone that most reddit users seem to have in regards to these things. Most conversations are along the lines of "everythings fucked, here's an idea that may unfuck things a bit" or the innumerable instances of users and influential articles calling bullshit on everything that comes out of the gov'ts mouth or mainstream media sources.

I think reddit is actually a fairly decent platform, given that most of the value is in the discussions. People post dissenting opinions, post factual evidence. It's not like 99% of sources where it's a one-way street with no one cross-checking sources, intentions, or even biased tones.

Only a few months after I started using reddit (years ago), I found I could no longer stand being talked "at" by TV news and major "household name" publications. I was constantly picking apart (with questions moreso than refutations) phrasing, selective quoting, unstated motives and broader perspective views from typical "pre-internet" style sources.

[–]dustinsmusings 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Right. I think there is a desire among some groups to control the conversation. They may have some limited success, but this situation is inarguably worse for the powers that be than the broadcast era, where the message could be much more tightly controlled.

[–]CamelKnuckle 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I used to think reddit was a decent source of information. Then I realized it's just a cascade of circle jerk fractals formed by the opinions of a mostly uniform demographic. Add in an upvote/downvote system that encourages a hivemind, dissenting opinions getting hidden, and government and corporate shills posing as users, and you've got yourself a propaganda machine.

[–]joshg8 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Not to get too real, but this "mostly uniform demographic" is the same demographic that will grow into the most influential demographic, at least in the US. College educated white males (largely) run this country and its discourse, so what's wrong with recently college educated white males coming together and discussing and forming new/different opinions on how things do/can/should work. Even if the circle jerks towards a similar opinion, what makes the fact that it's a largely shared sentiment into a negative example of effectiveness?

Take campaign finance for example. It's largely recognized across reddit as one of the most distilled obstacles to progress on the political level in the United States. Taken offline, it's hard to find people whose primary flow of information and news comes from larger, one-way sources who agree with this.

[–]solar-ice 0 ポイント1 ポイント

the innumerable instances of users and influential articles calling bullshit on everything that comes out of the gov'ts mouth or mainstream media sources.

This is exactly the issue; even some of these users (especially some of these users, actually) are likely to be pushing the discussion in a certain way, even if that's simply de-escalating things so that nobody actually does anything about the issue. When's the last time you actually saw something come out of a reddit discussion, even if only a real-life protest? (There's other cultural aspects to the problem, I'm not blaming this on Government actors, but I believe it is a part of it.)

post factual evidence

I find this very rarely. Even in the cases that things are linked, outside of /r/science, it's generally opinion articles, or Wikipedia.

I was constantly picking apart (with questions more than refutations) phrasing, selective quoting, unstated motives and broader perspective views from typical "pre-internet" style sources.

I entirely agree; reddit is a good replacement for mass media, but it's even more slippery in terms of making sure you don't just end up agreeing with the hivemind, which is outright factually wrong on many subjects due to a lack of expert experience mixed with confirmation bias, never mind pressures from existing power structures.

Personally, I try to surround myself with people who I believe/know are real people with real lives, even when they have opposing viewpoints (outside of a few specific issues). This is done by reading their blogs, reading a newspaper that I take with a grain of salt and do my own research on its news, and direct (one-to-one) communication with people. I would rather like to formalise a structure and platform for pushing news in this direction in the future.

[–]joshg8 0 ポイント1 ポイント

When's the last time you actually saw something come out of a reddit discussion, even if only a real-life protest?

Reddit's primarily a source of information, not a rallying spot for calls to action. People becoming more informed and exposed to issues IS an end in and of itself. Especially if people take these discussions offline and discuss with your so-called "real people with real lives."

I find this very rarely. Even in the cases that things are linked, outside of /r/science, it's generally opinion articles, or Wikipedia.

This is still much more than other news sources. Opposing viewpoints, background information, supporting viewpoints, information put into context.

Personally, I try to surround myself with people who I believe/know are real people with real lives, even when they have opposing viewpoints (outside of a few specific issues). This is done by reading their blogs, reading a newspaper that I take with a grain of salt and do my own research on its news, and direct (one-to-one) communication with people.

Is this not exactly what I've described as happening on reddit? Discussing with other people, links to other blogs and opinions, links to other sources.

[–]zeta3232 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That's what an agent would say.

[–]DownvoteDaemon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

There are shill accounts that purposefully post in a variety of subreddits to throw anyone off who is investigating them. "See this guy doesn't just post in /r/politicis he must be real!"

[–]__REDDITS_TOP_MIND__ 1 ポイント2 ポイント

A great example is the effort to paint Hobby Lobby in a positive light. Yesterday there were hundreds, maybe thousands, of low karma accounts shilling for hobby lobby. Each one kept quoting the 16/20 number over and over. This shit is real, and it's happening every day.

FUCK HOBBY LOBBY

[–]pikapikachoo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Nice try Obama get out of here. I see what you are trying to do. Give me a well reasoned, but shilled but uh i dunno.... Bye internet I am confused.

[–]camelCaseCondition 0 ポイント1 ポイント

make a lot of posts that just slightly bias discussion one way or the other; make comments, upvote/downvote things, etc, according to an agenda, acting like any other user.

So... The behavior of any normal active user? This is at least a little bit paranoid right? Oh shit im influencing the conversion in a particular direction! I might be working for the secret government!

[–]solar-ice 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The point is that they're normal active users who are paid to have a certain agenda that they wouldn't have otherwise, that is beneficial to an existing power structure, and to shape discussions. It's naive to think this doesn't happen.

I'm not paranoid, just critical of anonymity.

[–]chowmaster 0 ポイント1 ポイント

thats a good way to keep the masses paranoid

[–]emergent_properties 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Sow more seeds of confusion!

Disarray is the name of the game.

Why simply just destroy or shutdown social media networks when the value of it is to infiltrate, infect, and spread misinformation?

Egypt's "pull the cord NOW" style shows how badly people react to outright withdrawal.. the more sophisticated countries are smarter by taking full advantage of them.

grabs the popcorn

[–]downvotesmakemehard 0 ポイント1 ポイント

/r/hailmods

[–]jackiekeracky 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm completely blind to usernames on reddit.

FIGHT THE POWER

[–]GeorgePantsMcG 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That's a reasonable assumption but Akam's razor would say probably not. (See what I did there?)

[–]iScreme -1 ポイント0 ポイント

The mods aren't the issue.

...they were an example...

[–]KrylonKid 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You make a polite, reasonable point. I don't trust you...

[–]Kreeyater -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Fucking Unidan...I knew it.

[–]pribnow 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Nice try, Department of Defense

[–]caamando 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Hey, Tim Howard's got better things to do than surf Reddit!

[–]canausernamebetoolon 4 ポイント5 ポイント

You can only moderate three default subs max. The "100+ subs" people just come up with a list of sub names and create them. You can, too. Anyone is free to start unlimited subs. But the people who moderate lots of subs don't actually moderate them because they humanly can't, and most of the subs actually aren't active.

[–]psdtwk 6 ポイント7 ポイント

But the people who moderate lots of subs don't actually moderate them because they humanly can't

I see you're not familiar with moderating, specifically the tools available to moderators and how to share workload.

[–]marshsmellow 5 ポイント6 ポイント

If the moderator is multiple people, then that blows your theory out of the water.

[–]xstaticxgpx 2 ポイント3 ポイント

http://www.reddit.com/user/qgyh2

[–]Ambiwlans 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That is one unpopular dude.

[–]thedeafministry 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Holy shit. This guy has close to 130 forums!

[–]mileylols 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Due to the high visibility of group accounts like TIR, DTBI, and IDSAA, people think there are way more group accounts than actually exist.

[–]timodmo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Right? That jerk automoderator is everywhere! illuminati

[–]Z_T_O 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I can't even manage one.

[–]Submitten 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Are you real right now? Do people actually believe this bullshit or are they just trying to sound jaded for internet points?

[–]ClassicJeff 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Seeing as there are jobs to do nothing but troll popular forums to sway public opinion, this isn't surprising.

[–]mememyselfandOPsmom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

so the tin foil hats are necessary?

[–]Agish 0 ポイント1 ポイント

beyond that, just try having an opinion thats not on the mainstream, see how quickly you get sidelined

[–]pogthumper 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I don't think it's a matter of getting to moderate those subs... moreso they were there on the groundfloor claiming potentially content-rich subject matter subreddit names back when reddit was mostly for porn and significantly less popular than it is now.

[–]hungrystegosaurus 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Nerds.

[–]SquidsAhoy 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No, that isn't the DoD, its the five jew bankers under the control of the illuminati working with the masonic temple after having been paid by the Taliban with money from the US government that controls patent on cattle mutilations traded to them by aliens in exchange for ice cream recipes.

[–]fuzzykittenhead 13 ポイント14 ポイント

How do I know this isn't a test of a negative opinion to influence my own?

[–]TheGayHardyBoy 8 ポイント9 ポイント

How about a way to make you feel like you are participating, while insidiously swaying your opinions and skewing your view of the world? That's exactly what the papers cited in TFA are about.

[–]Fuji__speed 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Now you're thinking!

[–]zossima 56 ポイント57 ポイント

Yeah, they are.

[–]mimdrs 50 ポイント51 ポイント

http://www.reddit.com/r/undelete

[–]kit8642 69 ポイント70 ポイント

I'd like to point out that r/undeleted was recently infiltrated by a mod. I wouldn't be surpised if they are manipulating that sub as well.

[–]munk_e_man 24 ポイント25 ポイント

That new mod is a complete shit disturber and has brought with him a crew of astroturfing fucks with no life. The sub is completely compromised.

[–]LoveExists 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Dude, it's all about /r/undelete2.

[–]globalizatiom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

classic Matrix trick

[–]thefonztm 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Meh, I'd call it an infiltration if he at least had a fresh username. At best this is appeasement.

[–]ctindel 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Who is it supposed to appease?

[–]thefonztm 16 ポイント17 ポイント

Adding a megamod would be appeasement by /r/undelete to Reddit admins/mods.

At least, IMO. The purpose of undelete is to find where the mods are trying to sweep stuff under the rug. The bot does a decent job of find posts (many of which are simple rule violations from subs like TIL, not always conspiracy). the users do a good job promoting the questionable deletes to the top with the voting system and the erroneous stuff falls to the side. There's no real need for a mod, so why add one?

A mod exists to prune a subreddit, usually in a benevolent way ('health of the subreddit').

/r/undelete exists to catch that which is pruned and shed light on manipulation.

Having a mod (particularly a megamod) is not good for /r/undelete. ('Pruning the pruned.')

Specifically regarding why I think it may be appeasement. In truth I'm not deep in the drama and these are my own specualtions. But adding a mod may have been a compromise to banning the sub (unlikely - HUGE drama problem) or some other measure of reigning in /r/undelete.

Again, these are my speculations. Take them as you will.

I reserve the right to be entirely wrong.

[–]the_viper 2 ポイント3 ポイント

apprently it was to remove "illegal content" Thing is if Illegal content is making it to the fucking front page the problem is not with /r/undelete but shitty mods on the subreddit that let it reach the front page undetected.

It was the most stupid reason made to inflitrate a sub I've ever heard

[–]pok3_smot 1 ポイント2 ポイント

So couldnt this bot be run off of another domain?

Like we could just go to www.whateverundeletereddit.com and see the list of the bot with basic voting functionality?

It seems pretty obvious the admins and mods just want the ability to act with complete impunity adn that cant be tolerated.

[–]Dargok 1 ポイント2 ポイント

The Admins who threatened the creator of /r/undelete

[–]blazenl -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

the illuminati, yo

[–]kit8642 1 ポイント2 ポイント

In your opinion, who is it appeasing? The admins?

[–]thefonztm 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Ahh, I just answered the same question from another user.

[–]Intestinal_Parasites 6 ポイント7 ポイント

No we're not!

[–]not_that_erin 3 ポイント4 ポイント

They did well with Ukraine and Syria matter.

[–]the_viper -1 ポイント0 ポイント

most obvious JTRIG I've ever come across

[–]RamenJunkie 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No we aren't...

Edit: I mean they, no they aren't.

[–]ChuanFaFist 71 ポイント72 ポイント

I bet they're manipulating reddit too

Go into any thread about Ukraine, China, or Snowden, it gets crazy.

[–]crawsome 40 ポイント41 ポイント

Yep, always the upvoted, pessimistic, critical comment at the top. Never fails.

[–]BasicDesignAdvice 10 ポイント11 ポイント

That's true for a lot of reddit threads though. A lit of science and tech stories have comments on why x thing won't work for example.

[–]crawsome 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Science and tech naysayers is usually a rational argument (especially in /r/science), while politically planted commenters, can say anything to get you to change your mind.

[–]ArttuH5N1 1 ポイント2 ポイント

On tech and science stories the reason for the sceptical comments is most likely a stupid headline.

"Cure for cancer found!"

"No, see, what the study actually found is...

[–]Jackpot777 1 ポイント2 ポイント

In the case of the biggest science / tech story recently, the "why x won't work" was justified. Solar powered freakin' roadways made of glass with electronics embedded in them, when we could put solar panels on the roof of every public building / car port / bus shelter to get the same result for much less hassle? That needed to be said. It doesn't diminish how absolutely important a role solar panels can play for our energy needs in the 21st century along with wind and wave energy ...it injects other areas of science (engineering experts, especially) into a serious conversation.

I see nothing wrong in that.

[–]lowkeysociopath 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Too true. I could probably make an amazing mad lib for it. Same comment EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[–]tidux 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I think if you sort by "best" instead of "hot" or "top" it doesn't do that.

[–]Elchtoeter 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The top comment in every NSA thread? The others do it too. Without fail.

[–]_Billups_ -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

That's exactly the type of comment that they wouldn't want at the top.

[–]meggyver 12 ポイント13 ポイント

Bullshit. They would want the, "Well, there's nothing we can do about it, so stop complaining" comments to be right at the top and upvoted like crazy, because that is exactly how they want everyone to feel.

[–]crawsome 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Exactly! Manufacturing consent starts with making people apathetic.

[–]unfunnyryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Depends on who "they" are

[–]ChuanFaFist -1 ポイント0 ポイント

I think I'm contributing, downvote me if you disagree though.

[–]imusuallycorrect 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I've seen entire threads hijacked because someone discussed one of those countries. The army of shills will show up out of nowhere.

[–]WorksWork 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I don't doubt that there are governments trying to influence things, but people do have legitimate differing opinions as well.

[–]ChuanFaFist 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Certainly, certainly. I get downvoted all the time for having a differing opinion.

But sometimes it makes you suspect. And being suspicious makes you feel crazy, at the same time.

[–]tacticalnoppe 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Add Israel to the list

[–]ChuanFaFist 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Pretty much any world power, yeah...

[–]IAmtheHullabaloo 25 ポイント26 ポイント

From the reddit blog:

Most addicted city (over 100k visits total)

Eglin Air Force Base, FL

Oak Brook, IL

South St. Paul, MN

It doesn't give a time frame, but I am guessing that is per day.

[–]OrderAmongChaos 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If you were in the Air Force you'd know that has nothing to do with government infiltration. They're mainly comprised of bored office workers. Just go into any thread and make some offhand comment about chair force or something and they'll all come out of the woodworks.

[–]CharsCustomerService 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Wait, there's under 20k people at/around Eglin AFB. How are they getting those numbers?

[–]Psionx0 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Well duh. Look at how we can't see actual voting information anymore. Just who "likes" something...sorta like facebook.

[–]windolf7 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Go check out /r/undelete

[–]Aerin-Kayne 0 ポイント1 ポイント

What if the real experiment is the analysis of the reaction to the disclosure of 'the experiment'?
It's getting dark in this rabbit hole.

[–]kostiak 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Just sub to /r/undelete, it's not even a big secret.

[–]owa00 0 ポイント1 ポイント

and the sub that's secretely pulling all the string mis obviously /r/nba ...

fuck Ray Allen

[–]unGnostic 0 ポイント1 ポイント

There was heavy NSA anti-Snowden propaganda after the Snowden SXSW broadcast, and at other times.

[–]NiceFella 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That would explain all the troll accounts farming negative karma in the last couple years. I had hoped it was a social experiment, and not just bored kids reaching desperately for personality.

"Whoa, you made another account just to pluck nerves and be hated en masse? No way is that a symptom of social disorder. You are like, so interesting an individual; making a Machiavellian pastiche of satirizing people's opinions and feelings. High art.

[–]Agish 0 ポイント1 ポイント

gee, really?

[–]shillmcshillerton 0 ポイント1 ポイント

They're doing something with Reddit. My account activity shows a rather odd amount of DoD IP addresses. Considering, you know, I don't use Reddit from DoD offices in a different state.

[–]brickmack 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It's pretty obvious. There's mods that are in charge of hundreds of subs (meaning that it's gotta be a full time job for them, even though mods aren't actually paid), and they frequently delete comments or links for no apparent reason, most likely to benefit whatever companies are employing them. Corporate and government shills run rampant in the comments, and the recent "improvements" the admins have made make it easier to artificially inflate or deflate the rankings of certain links without being so easily noticed. Corruption exists at every level of this site

[–]Delicate-Flower 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Eglin Air Force Base anyone?

[–]SwordMaster314 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I doubt any of you have read the article because if you did, you'd realize that this article is grasping at straws...

[–]Mekongcoke 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It's rather funny when I see those MERICA pics of solders coming home that get to the front page...

[–]lagspike 0 ポイント1 ポイント

how do you manipulate a circlejerk?

the entire premise of this site is everyone agreeing with each other, any opinion that deviates from the norm gets downvoted.

if anything is messing with public opinion, it isn't external sources...it's reddit itself.

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[–]CageyWeasel 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Negative. No manipulation is occurring. Now continue with your subversive arm-chair diatribes citizen.

[–]NinurtaSheep -1 ポイント0 ポイント

If they dont, somone else will. They justify it, as they don't have a choice.

[–]Hazzman 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Yes it's called Operation Earnest Voice

[–]IAmtheHullabaloo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Wikipedia article:

Operation Earnest Voice is a planned astroturfing campaign by the US government. The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking sites based outside of the US.[1][2][3][4] According to the United States Military Central Command (CENTCOM), the US-based Facebook and Twitter networks are not targeted by the program, although US laws do not prohibit US state agencies from spreading propaganda among US citizens[1] as according to the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012.[5] However, Isaac R. Porche, a researcher at the RAND corporation, claims it would not be easy to exclude US audiences when dealing with internet communications.[4]

[–]meggyver 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This is why we can't see the vote counts anymore. It's a lot easier to control how people think and feel when you can control how they think others are perceived for those thoughts and feelings.

[–]HonestBean -1 ポイント0 ポイント

If that were the case, they would have left it alone. Nothing influences opinion greater than seeing that 150 disagree with you, even if 151 agree. Now you don't see how many disagree, it's sugar-coated. Do you really think reddit hid the votes so that they can control how people think? Do you think the government is strong-arming them into doing this? What is with this thread? It's so ridiculous. I can't tell if people are being satirically hyperbolic or not.