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Slasher has been site wide banned[Other] (self.starcraft)

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http://www.reddit.com/user/slashered

edit: Just to clarify, this was done by the reddit.com admins not the /r/starcraft moderators

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[–]tabent 34 ポイント35 ポイント

Lol its probably because he was doing stuff like this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/2728wf/slasher_wanted_this_to_be_posted_so_gee_wiz_here/

Basically telling random people to post his articles.

[–]mYinsanityGracksploitation 19 ポイント20 ポイント

This banning system is ridiculous. I want to see Slasher's articles on reddit, but if he's not allowed to post them himself that means that I have to pitch in and post them for him. So okay, I'll subscribe to onGamer's RSS feed and... wait, if I'm subscribed to their feed I'm already notified of their articles so why the fuck do I even come on reddit?

This is insane.

[–]kogeth 22 ポイント23 ポイント

There's some ratio they look at. Reddit admins want people to be active and contribute on the site for things more than just what they have a pecuniary interest in.

If Slasher was a redditor who also happened to own and operate a website in addition to being a redditor, and submitted links in addition to being generally active in a community/several communities, there would be no issue.

But he's not. He ONLY EVER is active in submitting posts that link directly to his website, which he gets money from, or commenting on those posts.

It's really an easy fix too, he just needs to take an interest in reddit and be active on the starcraft subreddit (look at other pro players contributions to this subreddit as an example). He's just too lazy or stupid to do it.

If you own and operate shittythingsilikeontheinternet.com and only ever submit links pointing to your website that you make money off of, reddit doesn't want you here. It's really that simple.

[–]nonethewiser 48 ポイント49 ポイント

Reddit is about sharing, not about advertising.

[–]Terranbattleboat 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Reddit is about sharing existing content, not producing original content.

[–]Protosssemi- 13 ポイント14 ポイント

Advertising is about sharing your content. I really don't see the distinction.

Was Cyborgmatt doing dota2 patch analysis every week for reddit and posting it to his blog advertising or sharing the content he created? Is it really any different now that he posts them to ongamers instead of his blog?

[–]nonethewiser 17 ポイント18 ポイント

I don't disagree with you, but the allegations are that ongamers and slashered specifically were participating in voting rings and asking for people to submit content, which is not the same as Matt posting his patch analysis and letting reddit do the rest of the work.

[–]OffTheWheel 3 ポイント4 ポイント

You guys have to understand how big of a traffic cow Reddit is, especially on /r/LeagueofLegends, where there's a half-mil subscribers and a good post can stay on the front page for most of the day.

I would not doubt much of OnGamers' content strategy to revolve around Reddit, considering their Twitter account has barely over 11k followers, and they need to feed an entire staff of eSports content creators. They sacrificed making their own community by just co-opting Reddit's, and they know that it will make them rich.

[–]nonethewiser 0 ポイント1 ポイント

How does that make what they're doing okay? They're getting banned for exactly what you're talking about.

[–]OffTheWheel 2 ポイント3 ポイント

No no, I'm on your side; I think what they're doing isn't okay. I'm just saying that's their justification for doing it: instead of taking the time to do things the hard way and build up their own traffic base, they're saying "Hey, Reddit! Big numbers! Let's milk that as much as we can!"

It's lazy and terrible.

[–]nonethewiser 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Even worse, they're bringing on good content creators like Cyborgmatt and then getting them in trouble.

[–]OffTheWheel 0 ポイント1 ポイント

On one hand, they're giving stability and money to content creators who deserve it.

On the other, they're subsidizing that money with scummy practices that are based around making money by any means possible.

[–]smtsmtwhat 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Everybody profits from their articles being posted, not just onGamers? Consequently, the community gets informed or has something to talk about. It's also not a money grab, lol, you don't know how low CPM is these days.

[–]Pyrepenol 2 ポイント3 ポイント

They wouldn't have needed to get other people to post articles for them if they weren't planning to upvote it themselves. That's the whole problem here, the employees of their site were upvoting their site explicitly and that's against the rules.

Want to know what is ridiculous? how people can't understand such a simple fucking rule.

[–]KT Rolsterzouhair 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No it is not.

[–]Terranrobhoward 2 ポイント3 ポイント

*facepalm*

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 98 ポイント99 ポイント

I assume this is somewhat my fault.

I send a message to the admins asking for better communication over the shadow bans they hand out to /r/starcraft community figures and content creators without notifying us so we can make better judgements for follow-up actions.

So naturally they step up their communication-less bans.

[–]iBleeedorange[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Eh, I don't think it's your fault. I would imagine it was just a matter of time if he was doing rule breaking things, it's not like they didn't notice it before.

[–]Protosshugolp 7 ポイント8 ポイント

He is being ironic.

[–]Troggor 37 ポイント38 ポイント

Pretty sure you mean sarcastic

[–]lostpatrol 34 ポイント35 ポイント

I'm confident he means anorexic.

[–]Team AcerRatzBarcode 4 ポイント5 ポイント

No, he was quite metallic.

[–]iBleeedorange[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Well there have been lots of other sc2 content producers banned recently too...

[–]TerranZombiGrinder 14 ポイント15 ポイント

Was ongamers spamming this sub or something? Anyone know the reason for the ban? Must of missed that drama.

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 36 ポイント37 ポイント

Previously onGamers authors used to submit all of their content to the relevant reddits themselves and generally each of them would all vote on all the content because hey, they helped make it so they liked it.

The admins saw this as spamming and vote manipulation.

These cases aren't normally through malice or attempts to game the system, but ignorance of reddit rules. These guys just want to share the cool content they produce.

However sometimes, users do want to unfairly game the system and inflate their vote count and thus exposure to their content. We hear reports of skype and facebook groups for sharing links for participants to upvote.

One of the earliest and most high profile cases of an admin shadow ban on reddit as a whole that I remember was a guy who built a PC with a ridiculous amount of solid state drives. He made a really cool video demoing the ridiculous speed he could boot up various programs, games and suites of Microsoft Office. It turned out the drives had been proved to him for free by the manufacturer (I think it was Samsung) for him to make a viral video to promote them. An admin (who has since left) took exception to this and banned the video and the user from the site.

Its a thin line to tread. I wish the admins would give us moderators more power to inform these decisions which affect a community with which they have little familiarity, but alas generally the first time we hear about these bans is when someone notices they can no longer visit a user page anymore.

[–]real_sc_talk_son 8 ポイント9 ポイント

How anyone could mistake the Samsung SSD video for anything but an advertisement I do not know.

By the way Olive Garden has unlimited breadsticks and they are delicious. I could go for some Olive Garden right now

[–]Terranrobhoward 7 ポイント8 ポイント

It wasn't this video. It was at least 4-5 years ago.

[–]real_sc_talk_son 2 ポイント3 ポイント

My mistake. I was searching for the article&video because that story was interesting. The video linked above also had a ton of backlash on reddit, there were articles written about it. I'll look for the correct one

Sorry&thx

EDIT: This must be it

[–]Zergillidra 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Oh cool I worked with the agency who made this video, small world.

[–]Protosscaseycoold 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Viral ads with youtube ads. wtf

[–]arnoldpalmerlemonade 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Gotta love the video that shows that SSD's defrag really fast.... when you don't and shouldn't defrag a ssd :-)

[–]Terranrobhoward 1 ポイント2 ポイント

That's the one - which admittedly still pretty much stinks of a paid viral video.

[–]Team AcerNearPup 17 ポイント18 ポイント

Stinks of paid? They straight up tell us it's a paid ad in the intro.

[–]moor-GAYZ 1 ポイント2 ポイント

/r/unlimitedbreadsticks

[–]a34fsd 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Why is somebody posting their own content bad? Isnt the purpouse of this site to be a news aggregator.

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 12 ポイント13 ポイント

There's a bit of a disconnect between what reddit started out as and what newer users perceive it as. Reddit isn't a place to promote your own content. Its for reddit users to share cool links they've found with each other, not for creators to promote their content and say "look at this cool video I made".

We encourage engagement with content creators, but its not a place to register an account and soley post links to everything you create on another site. Its not a place to 'build an audience'. The admins consider that spam.

Some creators are dissatisfied with the reception their content gets when posted by others because they think it deserves more attention. We have a voting system to determine what gets promoted and hidden, but some of them try to subvert that for more attention.

[–]Primesplosionp 5 ポイント6 ポイント

But doesn't that apply to pretty much everything that is OC?

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Its looked at differently when you make something off your own back just for the joy of creating something for the community, and when you create something for your website which pays you to produce content and is owned by CBS.

Its a fine line, because obviously I want content creators to earn a living and be successful, but I don't want for it to be via cheating on reddit and at the expense of others.

Either way its not my call to make. I'd like to be more involved in the process the admins take because for niche interests like starcraft they could be assisted by our insight.

[–]Primesplosionp 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Yeah, I guess. It's just that inconsistency annoys me a lot when it comes to moderating/admining (I guess there isn't a verb for everything).

Though I don't know the reason he was banned (vote manipulation/spamming/etc.). Do you know?

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント

inconsistency annoys me a lot when it comes to moderating/admining

Me too. I wish we got more communication from the admins about instances like these. I don't know specifically why Slasher was banned this time. I would imagine that it was because he did something he said he wouldn't do when he was wrangling to get his account back after being shadow banned the last time.

Asking people to post his content to /r/Kappa probably didn't help.

[–]bcarr 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'd imagine that's what sparked all of this particular incident, that and the user that reposted the screen cap with the obvious title.

[–]counters14 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Admin is short for administrator. So the verb you were looking for was 'administrating'.

[–]StarTaleLi5y 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I find the greatest irony here the fact that users who submit "ORIGINAL CONTENT" are seen as saints, and those that repost are seen as devil-spawn. So then why do Reddit admins ban people for posting their own content? I understand the idea that spamming is bad, but is it really that hard to filter real OC out?

[–]DND_Enk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You really did not read the post you replied to didn't you?

[–]RipSc2dedgaem -1 ポイント0 ポイント

wish they banned http://www.reddit.com/user/AJ_Monkey_Flash and never allowed him back again, tho he seems to have disappeared

[–]AxiomCrot4le 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Says the guy who posts shit like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29grdk/acer_teamstory_cup_twelve_teams_entered_these_are/cikv6j5

The story:

5 teams entered

they found dedgaem!

they switched to DOTA2 because 10 million$ tourny

gg

END

[–]Bladeleaf 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Who was he?

[–]Team 8FeelsASaurusRex 1 ポイント2 ポイント

/r/starcraft shitposter. Has sub -100 comment karma.

[–]iBleeedorange[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

this time? no. last time they would always submit their articles to reddit, (Different subreddits depending on the content of the stuff they wrote) and that got them & the site shadow banned. I think this time it's probably for some type of vote cheating thing. again.

[–]Gama Bearsscotch_on_the_rocks -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

More likely /r/leagueoflegends than this sub, massive traffic difference and the admins seem to keep a close eye on it for stuff like this.

[–]cupcake1713[A] 356 ポイント357 ポイント

A brief explanation of what happened.

As I'm sure many of you know, we've been having a few problems with ongamers for the past few months. Their employees have been manipulating reddit behind the scenes for a while (which was the reason for their ban the first time around). This time, in an attempt to subvert our rules set forth when we unbanned their domain, ongamers employees have now taken to repeatedly PMing users with instructions on how to post their links, including exact titles, and then having employees vote on those links once submitted. This behavior is totally unacceptable, and that is why /u/slashered and ongamers.com have been banned again.

[–]Team LiquidAbcZerg 91 ポイント92 ポイント

ongamers could have done nothing, then most of their stuff would've been posted anyways and everything would be fine, instead they were greedy and wanted everything linked on reddit. Seems like they got what they deserved. I hope they won't go under because of this, ongamers itself is a pretty good site for the esports scene.

[–]aryary 35 ポイント36 ポイント

This is what baffles me the most! They're big enough to have their content up here without those risks :/

[–]OffTheWheel 28 ポイント29 ポイント

You underestimate how much a title means to some people and their ability to click through. Just having "PLAYER X INTERVIEW" in the title rather than "Player X on Player Y: (Inflammatory quote)" is the difference between thousands of clicks.

[–]Team GrubbyRsa67 5 ポイント6 ポイント

don't most posters just copy the title of the article? I don't think it's a big difference if ongamers can control the reddit thread titles or not.

[–]OffTheWheel 6 ポイント7 ポイント

In /r/League you'll see "Travis interviews X" as a common title. It sucks and it doesn't really help. If you don't believe me, fine, but the title makes all the difference.

[–]Jeezjeezy 6 ポイント7 ポイント

They also control exactly when links get posted on Reddit to provide for the most clicks / chance to get front page'd. They flipped the fuck out on league of legends because someone posted a twitch VOD of a show they do.

[–]ForeverVulcun 0 ポイント1 ポイント

And the guy who posted the Twitch VOD basically got bullied into the ground by Thorin and Montecristo, the guys who host the show, Summoner's Insight, and forced a public apology from this poor guy for linking to a public VOD.

The two hosts were beyond angry because their content wasn't released in a "controlled" manner to reddit. IE, they wanted to get as many views as possible.

[–]RandomStabbityStab -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Link? I hadn't heard of this before.

[–]Izuke -1 ポイント0 ポイント

do you have a link to that?

[–]ForeverVulcun 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Gimme a few minutes to find the stuff. Thorin and Monte went off on people on Twitter and then the reddit user apologized on reddit. I'll edit this post when I find all of relevant tweets/posts.

[–]Aeowin 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You're 100% right, people won't click the interview unless the title has something interesting in it. Like Travis' last interview with doublelift. The title had something about doublelift almost killing CLG while driving, I only clicked the link because that story sounded interesting.

[–]stiznasty2point0 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Now that you mention it, that's so true. I never click "Player X Interview" because it sounds boring, but when the title says "Player X talks about that cool thing he did last game, that new fotm champ/build he's running, and an over exaggerated event in their personal life" I think to myself "no way! I get to hear his thoughts on that cool thing he did, hear something about the game that can apply to me, and get a glimpse on their personal life!!" Which is way more appealing. God damn marketing.

[–]aryary -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Oh yeah that's true, I hadnt considered that. Good point!

[–]Merich 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Some people just can't leave well enough alone.

[–]Incredible MiracleMinistryofPain 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Its good stuff, but its not always going to get posted and its not always going to rise to the top without a good chunk of votes within minutes of posting. So instead of letting it go and getting decent results, they tried doing what they did to get the best results.

[–]elerium1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

If they spent more time making good content and less trying to cheat the system they would be way better off.

[–]Incredible MiracleMinistryofPain 1 ポイント2 ポイント

In the long run, sure. But they were probably trying to do both.

[–]the0ddmanic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

If they are willing to pull stuff like this, then they are not worth your time, and should be avoided. All those affiliated with OnGamers have been doing a lot of questionable, unprofessional things these past few months, and I honestly hope they go bankrupt and lose everything. Karma finds a way

[–]TerranBroodlordBBQ 2 ポイント3 ポイント

sadly, you can't be so consequent in esports, otherwise you would have to boycott pretty much everything.

Attending an IEM or ESL ONE? Nope, a couple of years ago ESL hadn't paid out all of the prize money

Wanting to watch some LoL for whatever reason? Nope, Riot actively hurts the general esport scene and tried to force teams and tournaments to only do LoL.

Watching the Dreamhack Hearthstone tournament? Nope, they hired the scammer Artosis.

Wanting to listen to the only pure SC2 talkshow that is left? Nope, Wheat fucked over SotG and used the status of his show to be biased towards Evil Geniuses.

Playing some casual CS:GO competition for fun? Nope, ESEA infected all their users with bitcoin miners and destroyed graphic cards due to overheating.

In my opinion, what ongamers did is not worse than any of these things.

[–]herptydurr 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Wait, I've been out of the SC scene fro a while... Artosis is a scammer?

[–]Poelsemis 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Wait, from someone who doesn't follow Starcraft but knows Artosis from Hearthstone.. What did he do for you to call him a scammer?

[–]Zergfallore 0 ポイント1 ポイント

i believe what they're referring to is when artosis offered a paid subscription service to people for an upcoming project of his, and pretty much didn't do anything with it even though a bunch of people subscribed. i don't know the whole details though so take what i say with a grain of salt and do some googling.

[–]Zergploguidic3 24 ポイント25 ポイント

Thanks for the transparency, are we going to let ChanmanV back anytime soon? ;)

[–]counters14 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Thank you very much.

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 33 ポイント34 ポイント

Are we, as moderators, going to be privy to such information going forward to help inform our moderation or are we going to continue to be left in the dark?

There's plenty more of this going on behind the scenes but we don't seem to be able to get a good dialogue going with you guys.

[–]cupcake1713 7 ポイント8 ポイント

If there's more of this going on behind the scenes that you're aware of, message us at /r/reddit.com so we can look into it.

[–]Terranrobhoward[M] 30 ポイント31 ポイント

My point was its goings on behind the scenes by the admins that we are not aware of that damages our ability to moderate.

[–]TerranTheEnigmaBlade 7 ポイント8 ポイント

In many cases, keeping information like this private is the best course of action. Moderators are still users and are not exempt to reddit's privacy policy; what goes on between problematic users, websites, and the admins is private information and should not be freely given to moderators.

Of course, having complete transparency between moderators and admins would be great, but I'm perfectly fine with the way things are now. If the admins feel giving out information would be beneficial, they do so like /u/cupcake1713 did here.

[–]Primexlnqeniuz 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Also, keep in mind that the Reddit admins can't keep track of everything and answer everything. They've got to deal with a lot of shit from default subs alone, and then also keep track of non-defaults? It's one hell of a job.

[–]nonethewiser 1 ポイント2 ポイント

This is one of those things that it's difficult to share with moderators. Many of the /r/starcraft and /r/dota2 moderators are also members of the eSports community.

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    [–]ROOT GamingEvistential 8 ポイント9 ポイント

    /u/cupcake1713 why was ChanmanV banned?

    [–]Complexity Gaminghubwub 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    I didn't know that. I thought it was only OnGamers crew based on what I've read.

    [–]ROOT GamingEvistential 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    chanman was actually banned a few weeks ago but we never heard exactly why.

    [–]RollofDuctTape 13 ポイント14 ポイント

    Essentially it's the equivalent of them manipulating votes to be on the top of the front page. Similar to the advertisements from Reddit clients that pay good money to be put on the front page for a certain amount of time.

    If you think about it, Ongamers figured out a way to get free ad space on Reddit without having to pay.

    If they weren't so cheap and paid the money maybe they wouldn't have this problem.

    TL;DR: Deservedly REKT.

    [–]MVPTobblish 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    This is fucking golden.

    [–]Emekfl 5 ポイント6 ポイント

    TSM blocks ongamers in league, and reddit bans them on starcraft. ongamers with the solid track record

    [–]mongdong 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    What about Riot games doing the exact same thing?

    [–]Sternenfuchs 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    So you are saying Rod Breslau's reddit account got
    (•_•)
    ( •_•)>⌐■-■
    (⌐■_■)
    slashered!

    [–]aryary 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    Hi cupcake, /r/leagueoflegends mod here!

    Are the users they have been instructing also banned? Is this a temp or perma ban? Is it a softban (can we manually approve their links?) or a hard ban?

    [–]cupcake1713 5 ポイント6 ポイント

    Nope, we're hoping they take this as a very strong hint to shape up.

    [–]League_Shit 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    So, what is all links to ongamers completely banned from reddit? or are people unaffiliated with ongamers still allowed to post links to their content?

    [–]nonethewiser 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    If you try and post an ongamers link, you will get a message.

    Comments linking to ongamers will be automatically moderated, IIRC.

    [–]SenorFedora 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    How? Streamers will post a reddit link and their veiwers will go upvote them.

    How is upvoting something that your colleagues worked hard on against the rules?

    What about the 99% of reddit that never browses New? Are we just subject to whatever is upvoted by them?

    If someone makes a shit post and upvotes it 100 times its still not going to get exposure because it has no inherent value to offer others. Ongamers are far more valuable than random jerkoff posting 1080 noscope 420MLG videos and having his friends upvote it

    Vote manipulation is a problem when it starts impacting the quality of the content of a subreddit as a whole. Ongamers is a major contributor of quality content banning them WORSENS every subreddit they contribute to.

    Maybe reddit shouldn't have a system based upon people browsing New at the exact time that something gets posted for anything to be successful. If you eliminate the temptation(early votes heavily influence post success) you eliminate the outcome (vote manipulation to avoid getting buried in New.)

    [–]elerium1 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

    Maybe if ongamers made better content they wouldn't need to manipulate the system in order to get up votes

    [–]Evil GeniusesDarkReaver1337 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    And I am sure Team Liquid has never tried this ever huh? I feel there maybe favoritism.

    [–]the0ddmanic -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Has Ongamers cared to make an official statement regarding this issue? I have skimmed through their site (which I rarely visit due to their racist and elitist statements made in the past) and nothing has been posted there about this issue. I would love to see how they try to explain their way out of this one.

    [–]Fish_Head_Gook 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    And yet a Curse employee's sock puppet is still allowed to run r/Hearthstone and push Curse site content. How is that okay but this isn't?

    [–]Maniekk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    this is retarded actually. Everybody on /r/dota2 expects cyborgmatt's analysys every update, nobody else does it anyway. Nobody complains on ongamers articles, news but you. U're not even connected with dota probably and still tho, u keep ruining /r/dota2 subreddit. Don't try to tell us, that u're doing this for us, users. What a bullshit.

    [–]ForeverVulcun 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I'm not a DOTA guy. I hail from League. However, if "everyone" on /r/Dota2 expects some onGamer's employee's insight into an update, why don't they just follow onGamers directly instead of getting all of their news from reddit?

    You know, get your news straight from the source instead of waiting for it to go up on reddit...

    [–]ManiacalDane 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Oh come on. Couldn't you just do a subreddit specific one? Over on /r/dota2 there's been none of this bullshit, and we post from it ourselves, and it's one of the most-read sites on our sub. This is bullshit, and not allowing them to post their own content for and about the subreddit and it's subject is also just really damn stupid. Sigh... Rules are rules I guess, but man - You guys ought to give the subs some more freedom and / or power over their content.

    • Cyborgmatt makes his patch-analysis' for the community, but is not allowed to post them to the community they're created for? It's damned odd. I mean, I get that rules are rules and that you have to take a stand and all that, but reddit has always been about the community, so why wont you let us bloody decide what we want on the site?

    [–]sp1n 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    I'm curious why Cyborgmatt stopped doing the analysis on his own site. Any idea?

    [–]ManiacalDane 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    He was hired by onGamers. His own site didn't have any substantial money-making ads, nor any corporation to back him and give him actual wages. Now he gets a proper wage each and every single month - And I can hardly blame him. After being hired by onGamers, he's made better content more frequently. He's now able to fly out to all the events and interview players, casters and other community members, which he wouldn't've been able to at all prior to onGamers. The fact that he's not allowed to post his content to the community that it was created for is just... Balls. He's part of the community, and he's done so fucking much for it - But Reddit's admins don't care. It's a damned shame.

    [–]Randomlordofsoup 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Ongamers hired him I think.

    [–]Alternate GamingFlippoManiacs 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    here is a thread with some context from /r/Kappa http://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/2728wf/slasher_wanted_this_to_be_posted_so_gee_wiz_here/

    [–]para29 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    hashtag:fuckslasher

    [–]Jin Air Green WingsCYWON -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Can I mention things as a user? Idgaf if a writer advertises his site in posts. If it's good I'll upvote if it's shit I won't. So many Richard Lewis and thoorin article I've downvoted not because the author, bit because their crap or fluff. Same with slasher.

    Slasher whether we like it or not is a pretty key part of our community. Sure he's a bit of a dick at times but he's our dick.

    [–]aryary 12 ポイント13 ポイント

    The problem is that the first 30 minutes of a post are important. If it gets upvoted it will show up on the frontpage of a subreddit and the post will be succesful.

    If it's good I'll upvote if it's shit I won't.

    Yep, that's correct. But by manipulating the votes (everyone at the office upvoting it) they are cheating the system and taking an unfair advantage over other posts.

    [–]Merich 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    Circlejerk/mob mentaility at its best worst.

    [–]Jin Air Green WingsCYWON -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    We aren't that big of a subreddit, I go back two three pages and the is most of the lowest upvoted threads.

    [–]aryary 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    They're (probably) not just doing this in your subreddit

    [–]MisterMetal 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    starcraft, dota2, hearthstone, LoL

    [–]elerium1 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    they do this in the LOL subreddit.. with 500k+ subs.

    [–]Fish_Head_Gook -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

    I find it interesting that you're concerned about this when you lot that run /r/leagueoflegends are so inconsistent and shitty about enforcing the rules on the subreddit's front page.

    Not saying that vote manipulation is good (if that's what is happening), but it's hard to buy that you give a shit about quality when there's two Riot please posts for every ongamers post that hits the front page.

    [–]aryary 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    It's incredibly easy to claim stuff like this, but as of yet nobody has come with a satisfying solution. "Ban all suggestion posts" isn't one.

    There needs to be a balance between the different types of posts and there will never be a composition that everyone will be happy about. At the moment I think we have a pretty good variety of content on the front page. Usually there's stuff like eSports news, suggestion posts, bug reports, gameplay video (both soloQ and eSports), fanart, soloQ advice, etc.

    Edit: The one thing I think we could definitely improve on is the reposts on suggestions, without any new additions or whatever. It's hard to categorize these though, but we try to reduce the amount of repetitive posts.

    [–]KTVallanyr 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    "he's our dick" - 10/10

    [–]lilweezy99 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

    damn im sad i didnt get messaged, i woulda posted those links for some jew gold

    [–]cupcake1713 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    Better luck next time :P

    [–]lilweezy99 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

    whered your logo go, is this off the record hey baby

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      [–]SK Telecom T1aPureGenius 11 ポイント12 ポイント

      Good thing you can make a new account in 10 seconds.

      [–]KarnickelEater 3 ポイント4 ポイント

      But without name recognition any submission is just one of hundreds every day. Losing a name hurts.

      [–]SK Telecom T1aPureGenius 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Fair point but people will still upvote video interviews with slasher regardless if he posted the link or not imo

      [–]nice__username 14 ポイント15 ポイント

      Again?

      [–]iBleeedorange[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント

      last time it was anyone related to ongamers.com, this time it looks like it's just him...

      [–]KiFirE 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      and he will be back, with some magical explanation. till the next time.

      [–]iBleeedorange[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント

      Unlikely imo. The only way I could see him getting back is that he accidentally voted on something that others collaborated to upvote/downvote. It's more likely that he vote cheated, again and won't get unbanned.

      This is all speculation on my part, I don't know why he was shadow banned.

      [–]SK Telecom T1KESPAA 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      is there anything stopping him from making an account slashered2? Is the account banned or is Slasher?

      [–]mprofeta 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      It's awkward for journalists because they might want to post their own content frequently. He can make an alt acc but it just will get banned too sooner or later.

      [–]iBleeedorange[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント

      technically...no there isn't anything stopping him. However he would just get banned again as the admins can see IP addresses.

      [–]TerranSidusKnight 8 ポイント9 ポイント

      admins can see IP addresses.

      Because that's such a full proof way of keeping someone off a site.

      [–]Protosstyro17 25 ポイント26 ポイント

      fool proof

      [–]AxiomCrot4le 4 ポイント5 ポイント

      foolproof

      [–]iBleeedorange[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      yeah....but with slasher it's not really like they wouldn't be able to tell it's him because he would still do the same things that break rules.

      [–]CJ EntusJimmyAlabamasc2 17 ポイント18 ポイント

      oy vey

      [–]NalrahPlays 37 ポイント38 ポイント

      Fuck Slasher

      [–]AxiomSuperHb 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Why does everyone say this? Who tf is he?

      [–]SlayerSJediWarrior 14 ポイント15 ポイント

      SirScoots started this on Lo3.

      [–]Hwaseung OZr0xxo -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      you're fucking clueless

      [–]AxiomFlukyS 9 ポイント10 ポイント

      Slasher is a guy who was once the only major journalist in esports. He now works for the cbs owned ongamers. The term fuck slasher I can't remember when it started but it was made popular by djwheat's show called live on 3.

      [–]StarTalecoloRD 11 ポイント12 ポイント

      There was also the MLG show called Fuck Slasher for a while that came out of this.

      [–]AxiomFlukyS 3 ポイント4 ポイント

      That was after live on 3 and he named the show that himself.

      [–]Nimonic 4 ポイント5 ポイント

      As he said: that came out of this.

      [–]Terraninterrorbang 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      It's a bit like saying that primus sucks

      [–]Samsung KHANxuanzue 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      he used very misleading titles in articles to be sensationalists, like "esf players boycotting mlg because kespa". so must people started to tell him to fuck himself, and so on.

      [–]BobVosh 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      So this was a journalist who posted a lot of his own stuff? Is that whats going on?

      [–]SpeCSC2 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      he didn't contribute anything else to the subreddit apart from submitting his own content. oh and he asked other people to upvote or upload his content for him.

      [–]kickhvostpls 3 ポイント4 ポイント

      fuck slasher

      [–]Protossgrimmyman123 3 ポイント4 ポイント

      Good riddance.

      [–]KT RolsterArvendilin 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Well I guess we have to step it up and submit their content if we want some high level journalism in SC subreddit.

      I just... don't see it really it gets buried under loads of other stuff, but if i catch any new article I guess I'll try to post it here :D

      [–]Team GrubbyPreyMonkie 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Makes sense imo, ongamers wouldn't be here today without reddit. And while ongamers produces great quality content it kinda defeats the purpose of reddit.

      It does kinda suck that chanmanV got banned because i guess he didn't follow the comment rule, those unfiltered threads were great.

      [–]Axiomjonnyfiftka 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      ah common why is so hard to post these articles under anonym, common ..... and everyone would be happy

      [–]w00p00 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      my opinion on the matter "@Slasher much mastermind, such manipulate, very reddit"

      [–]Evil GeniusesriderLyrae 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Good riddance

      [–]lilweezy99 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      rekt

      [–]Hwaseung OZr0xxo -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      this subreddit is a fucking joke

      [–]nonethewiser -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      Again? Man OnGamers has some bad decision making skills.

      [–]TerranPoweRForgeD -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      No, slasher does

      [–]Zergdamcho -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

      Hhahahahaha

      [–]Team LiquidXathian -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      lol Again?

      [–]amwulfy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

      They should fire that faggot.