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Sorry for the downtime[META] (self.undelete)

submitted by IAmAnAnonymousCoward - stickied post

/u/FrontpageWatch was down for almost 20 hours. It went down shortly before I went to bed yesterday and I only had the chance to restart it now that I'm back from work. (I really need to put an SSH client on my phone...) Strange though that it took everyone so long to notice, as I could have easily done it this morning. Anyway, the reason appears to be a server restart by the host. Unfortunately I didn't know about /etc/rc.local until now... Shouldn't happen again. Sorry.

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[–]let_them_eat_slogans 6 ポイント7 ポイント

So, now that we have an /r/politics mod watching over /r/undelete, and the massive conflict of interest that goes along with it, is there any reason for the users to trust this sub any more? Any reason at all?

Aren't you the least bit concerned with the credibility of this sub?

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Thanks for bringing it back up; now please remove the /r/politics off from the modlist.

Two viable alternative mods are

/u/Travv and /u/SomeKindOfMutant1

[–]creq 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Two viable alternative mods are

/u/Travv and /u/SomeKindOfMutant1

Yep

[–]Favre99 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Funny coincidence this happened after the /r/politics mod drama. Shit happens, oh well.

Anyway to find anything that was deleted during the downtime?

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Any way to find anything that was deleted during the downtime?

Not really, no.

[–]Sinj 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Shocking.

[–]MadeByMonkeys 7 ポイント8 ポイント

At the risk of sounding like a nut, I'm wondering if the 'IAmAnAnonymousCoward account hasn't been taken over. This coupled with the appointment of an /r/politics mod as a mod of this sub stinks to high heaven. This is the definition of suspicious.

[–]hippysmell 3 ポイント4 ポイント

If any posts suspiciously dissapear from this sub, I think we can be safe in the knowledge that someone will notice and call shennanigans.

Little things like this are why all the time and energy that goes into censorship is spent in vain. People are too resourceful now. Managing information in dubious ways should be banished to the history books. Those in power should swallow their pride and start counting their chickens...but they probably won't.

[–]MadeByMonkeys 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Adding somebody as a mod with a clear conflict of interest with the lame excuse of "I need help" as if that's a full explanation is just bad, man. Even if you're right, the sub is clearly in questionable hands, which is really unfortunate.

[–]kattoo_new 0 ポイント1 ポイント

/r/longtail already has new submissions so I wouldn't go as far as to say there's been a take-over.

The presence of emr is and will be troubling but I suspect that nothing is going to be done about it and we'll have to get used to him :/

[–]MadeByMonkeys 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Again, not trying to be a nutbar, but I think that ignoring the elephant in the room is, well, flat out stupid. I think this sub is clearly compromised and dead.

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Well, /r/undelete isn't an official reddit feature or anything. By default, no one is notified of any removals (wonder why everyone's always so paranoid, right?). All /u/FrontpageWatch can do is look at the frontpage and then look again and notice if something's gone that was there before. Exactly how a user would notice a removal, just automated. Obviously this works only if it saw the submission before it was removed.

[–]Favre99 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Don't worry, I'm with you here. Some people are really paranoid about this whole thing. Again, shit happens. We'll get over it soon.

[–]IsNotPolitburo 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Living up to your name citizen.

[–]MadeByMonkeys 6 ポイント7 ポイント

So... why is emr1028 here?

[–]creq 7 ポイント8 ポイント

You still haven't taken care of the other problem. When do you plan on doing that?

[–]Oil_Lobbyist_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント

ignore it just like the reddit admins are doing.

[–]-moose- 2 ポイント3 ポイント

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz9810Y7ZRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CObjwzQXwrQ

[–]kattoo_new 1 ポイント2 ポイント

<3

[–]fritzly 3 ポイント4 ポイント

damn. I like the whole /u/IAmAnAnonymousCoward being pressured by the government controlled admins to add a specific moderators so they could shut off the bot conspiracy better. Conspiracies are so much more interesting than the truth.

[–]creq 2 ポイント3 ポイント

None of that excuses how emr1028 should be removed from being a mod here.

[–]fritzly -1 ポイント0 ポイント

http://i.imgur.com/xjDtL9Y.jpg

[–]kattoo_new 6 ポイント7 ポイント

He was added as /r/worldnews mod quite recently (precisely 29 days ago) and has been anti-cesorship for years.

It's quite the opposite for /u/emr1028 and he's been appointed as a mod when a pressure's been applied to introduce censorship on /r/undelete (even if it pertains content that violates Terms of Service).

Besides, it should be anti censorship, not aniti, just sayin'

[–]fritzly -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

typing fast + no sleep = spelling mistakes. If only we could edit memes.

I have seen nothing to discredit emr from being anti censorship besides "but he mods /r/politics!1!!!111!"

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Maybe because emr is the opposite of anti-censorship...

I took the worldnews position to keep an eye on content manipulation; he subversively got this position to act as a nuclear option when a story absolutely had to be removed from here. It's obvious and disgusting behavior.

[–]emr1028 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Prove that I have ever expressed pro-censorship views or ever removed anything that didn't blatantly violate subreddit rules. Go on... I'm waiting... Until then your wild witch hunt has nothing to stand on.

[–]fritzly -1 ポイント0 ポイント

yes its so obvious only a fool must believe he is actually trying to help...

How do you know he didnt take the politics position to keep an eye on the corrupt mods there?

[–]vwermisso 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Hey guys, I know it's hard but try not to downvotes the relevant discussion points like what fritzly posted. You're just censoring our own subreddit.

Even if it's a bit of a devils-advocate position to take I was also curious what other facts were at play here. I'd rather get to know the whole story than believe what other redditors told me blindly from a single perspective, wouldn't you?

[–]fritzly 0 ポイント1 ポイント

they wouldnt. They only like people agreeing with them and censor other view points by downvoting till hidden. Its a shame really.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Because that entire sub is highly curated and manipulated, and he plays no small role in that.

Not to mention his moderation of the highly manipulated conflict subs.

[–]emr1028 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Because that entire sub is highly curated and manipulated, and he plays no small role in that.

Lol I was modded there a couple of weeks ago and am not even a link moderator. I just remove death threats and other posts that violate the Reddit terms and conditions. Get your facts straight son.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Get your facts straight son.

Someone sounds mad that he got exposed for the manipulative agent that he is.

[–]fritzly -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Do you have any evidence that he is partaking in this manipulation or are you just playing the guilty by association card?

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm playing the "blatant conflict of interest card".

[–]Hasaan5 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

You & your friends banned me from /r/conspiracy for not drinking the kool aid, you're not anti-censorship at all.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I don't recall banning you; but if you pm the modmail in response to your ban message I'm sure I can take a look into what happened.

[–]emr1028 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Can I PM the mods in response to my totally anti-censorship ban?

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント

As soon as you get the "no gol1dfish rule" overturned in /r/politics you are welcome to appeal your ban :)

For those unaware; /r/politics has an unwritten rule entirely dedicated to censoring /u/go1dfish due to a bot he created which would expose censorship and pm users letting them know when /r/politics mod censored a submission.

[–]-moose- 3 ポイント4 ポイント

beware

How Is It That A Random Comment On Reddit Leads To Your Friend Getting Tracked By The FBI? | Techdirt

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/drgp9/how_is_it_that_a_random_comment_on_reddit_leads/

Delaware Attorney General Throws Subpoeana At Reddit Over Comment On Photo Of Two People Having Sex Behind A Dumpster

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140623/04094727654/delaware-attorney-general-throws-subpoeana-reddit-over-comment-photo-two-people-having-sex-behind-dumpster.shtml

would you like to know more?

http://www.reddit.com/r/moosearchive/comments/1wflhm/archive/cf1iimh

[–]fritzly -1 ポイント0 ポイント

please dont reply to me moose. Im tired of your spam.

[–]tinkert0y 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Stop posting the truth to my ignorant sarcasm! I don't likes it!

[–]fritzly -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

dont care if he posts, just not on my comments. He is a spammer.

[–]tinkert0y 1 ポイント2 ポイント

He just made you look like a fool.

[–]fritzly -1 ポイント0 ポイント

how?

[–]DunDunDunDuuun 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You did not reply to -moose-'s arguments, but instead attacked him. This makes you look uncredible, like you don't actually have a counterargument. I agree with you, but this conversation doesn't make you look good.

[–]fritzly 0 ポイント1 ポイント

he didnt have any arguments. He literally said beware, and then posting 2 articles saying how people can subpoena for what you say online. He then linked to his sub like always (spam).

His comment was off topic to what I was saying and was not even a bases for debate. What was there I to counter?

[–]itsfreedomstupid -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Conspiracies are so much more interesting than the truth

ITT, people who don't believe those with any kind of power have ever covertly worked together for their own benefit at the expense of others.

Feel free to speak about the lack of evidence for the idea people are putting forth about the new admin. Personally, I would call that almost cult-level devotion to the Reddit mods and completely ignoring track records. But taking each topic individually is certainly valid.

The part of your statement that is full of face-palm is your assertion that conspiracy and truth are mutually exclusive. You have to be a special kind of special to believe what you are saying.

But more likely (and even worse) you're a parrot that doesn't understand the words that were placed into your mouth.

[–]creq 0 ポイント1 ポイント

He's one of their friends. Right now there a group of people that are literally spending hours a day trying to subvert this place. Up til erm was made mod they were mostly just wasting their time.

https://pay.reddit.com/r/BipolarBear0/about/moderators

[–]fritzly 0 ポイント1 ポイント

lol Im am here daily. I like to keep an eye on whats happening on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/u/fritzly/m/mod_aboos

[–]itsfreedomstupid -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Ah. So it's the "cult" thing then. lol. Gotcha.

You would think they'd have better things to do than interrupt information flow. Apparently they don't. They are definite winners.

[–]silentprophet 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Thanks. Much appreciated!

[–]Ethelyn 1 ポイント2 ポイント

SysOps isn't easy, downtime happens. The flak you're getting is crazy. Don't let it get to you.

Thanks for running /r/undelete & /r/longtail.

[–]kattoo_new -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Sparked quite a controversy with this one ;)

[–]Diznatch52 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Glad to see everything is back up and working again.

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Thanks.