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The beginnings of Red Power 3 (twitter.com)

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[–]al3xthegre4t 18 ポイント19 ポイント

https://twitter.com/MineMaarten/status/480787667844878337 Apparently Elo has asked for BluePower to be discontinued, and they've agreed for it.

[–]kakophonia 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Oh ffs. If they actually made a decent copy of the mod that can be used in modpacks, why not continue? Then we could actually continue playing modded minecraft without any new divides again. I am beginning to really dislike Eloraam...

[–]immibisTubestuff Dev 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Because people want to be nice to each other. (Unlike you; you're not being nice to Eloraam or to the BluePower team).

[–]AHrubik 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It's not nice to abandon your mod and months later ask someone to stop working on a replacement because you suddenly have interest in redeveloping a successor to the one you abandoned.

[–]Mason11987 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It's not nice to request people stop working on their mod. I don't care that the BluePower team decided to, but she should have never asked them to do it. That's ridiculous.

[–]immibisTubestuff Dev 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It's also not nice to make an exact copy of someone's mod in the first place.

[–]awesommist 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Aren't you the guy who made RedLogic?

[–]Mason11987 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Why is it not nice? She wasn't working on it, and gave no sign at all that she would be again in the future. Seems very nice to me to provide a free service to the community.

[–]immibisTubestuff Dev 2 ポイント3 ポイント

It's nice to the community; it's also not nice to Eloraam.

[–]Mason11987 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Yup, so I'm never going to play RP3 because of this. Seriously, she has done NOTHING recently and she's asking others to stop providing a free service?

I don't care that they agreed, they're obviously fans so it would make sense they'd do whatever the creator requested. But it's absolute bullshit that she would request it and it's sad that people think it's a good thing that Elo would request that. Elo doesn't owe me anything, and neither do the BluePower authors, but minecraft modding is worse because it's seen as okay to request other stop making a mod.

[–]zorno 3 ポイント4 ポイント

It kindof shows why copyrights and intellectual property stiffle innovation and ultimately reduce the amount of products the consumer has access too. Once one person thinks of it, then they have a monopoly on that idea forever?

[–]Acid_Trees 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Actually, unless the BluePower team copy-pasted Eloraam's code or reused the artwork, copyright can't be claimed. Copyright only protects expressions, not ideas or concepts. If they really wanted to, they could (probably) keep working.

[–]Mason11987 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Yeah there's no legal ground here for Elo, but that's not even the point. Really the whole community should be upset that someone who isn't even around anymore has the gall to ask others to stop making a mod.

[–]AHrubik 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Exactly. It's hard for me to fathom the level of ego necessary to do that.

[–]zorno 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm no expert on copyright :) To me project red seems to be a direct copy of redpower, isn't it?

[–]Acid_Trees 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No, it was re-written from scratch, or at least that's the claim.

[–]Mason11987 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

As is elo's claims about how she "wrote from scratch" windmills, even though they're nearly identical in form to one made by someone prior.

I see no reason why those claims should be treated differently.

[–]Mason11987 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I think it shows how ego stifles innovation.

[–]BURN447 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I'm glad that they did this very kindly and agreed with her terms instead of arguing and being general dicks about it.

[–]Morinaka 8 ポイント9 ポイント

They would have every right to dismiss her request and carry on since it is their code. They probably only did it to avoid any drama and people calling them dicks for being in the right.

[–]aloy99 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I just wish a collaboration would be possible :(

[–]NOM-NOM-NOM-KARMA 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I would have rather them just ignored her and continued making bluepower.

[–]AHrubik 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I like the way they went about it. Immediately go public with it to show she hasn't changed a bit.

[–]Mason11987 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Why would saying no not be kind? Seems extremely kind to provide a free service to the community. Why should they be considered unkind if they didn't want to stop just because some long-departed former mod developer shows up again for some undetermined amount of time.

[–]immibisTubestuff Dev -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Terms as in terms and conditions, or terms as in something she said?

[–]BURN447 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Terms as something she said