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[–]JonnyRichterLibertarian 5 ポイント6 ポイント

While I totally agree with the sentiment (especially with the minimum wage and income taxes etc.), how does this apply to say.. Abortion?

Serious question. Because while "preventing the murder of unborn children" sounds great, the reality is it leads to a lot of alleyway procedures that have much worse results.

[–]bbut_MaoPolPotStalin 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Don't forget abstinence-only education, which sounds nice (keep kids from having sex when they're not ready instead of teaching them how to do it!), but in practice results in teen pregnancy and STDs thriving. Or the war on drugs which only creates a black market for them. Or limiting welfare programs even further, deporting immigrants and their kids, etc.

I couldn't believe this image was in /r/conservative when it applies to so many conservative stances as well.

[–]blatherskiterReagan Conservative -1 ポイント0 ポイント

That abortion leads to alleyway procedures doesn't make abortion not murder.

[–]actuallyyeahno 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If there's a demand for it, it will be covered, whether "legally" (peacefully) or in a black market, as the commenter you replied to said. Pick and choose.

[–]blatherskiterReagan Conservative 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Murder shouldn't be legal regardless of how peaceful it is.

[–]melongtimelurker 25 ポイント26 ポイント

liberalism just feels warm and fuzzy..

[–]uniquecannon2nd Amendment Activist 29 ポイント30 ポイント

Your rights end where my feelings begin

[–]joeboise 19 ポイント20 ポイント

I wish Sowell was better known. The religion of multiculturalism is pure insanity.

[–]Nudity_Is_Freedom 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I am conservative but not from the United States. Where I live we haven't really had much multiculturalism happen.

How has it affected things there? I know it's a broad topic, but I'm curious for some informed thoughts on it.

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Multiculturalism is based on the idea that all, yes all, cultures are completely equal, the freedom loving culture is equal to that of the butchering tribe wars in Africa. It has removed the notion that America is a "Melting pot" and turned it into a "salad bowl" where people shouldn't have to assimilate into the America Culture of freedom and God given rights.

[–]actuallyyeahno 1 ポイント2 ポイント

What the commenter below said, plus with added regulation to help enforce diversity.

[–]Happy-Fun-Ball 8 ポイント9 ポイント

How's that for an explanation of what eventually kills off great civilizations? So many ways to get it wrong, so few that get it right, briefly.

Milton Friedman on the trap

[–]PiercePyrite 0 ポイント1 ポイント

"...the idea that you should do good with somebody else's money."

It's a bit of an aside, but Milton Friedman wasn't totally against doing good with somebody else's money. A lot of people take these quotes from Friedman and leave out his ideas which contradict the seemingly absoluteness of the statements in this video. Friedman was a proponent of poverty alleviation funded via income tax. He laid it out in Capitalism & Freedom, in chapter 12 entitled The Alleviation of Poverty. Therein he advocated guaranteeing minimum income via a system of negative income tax whereby the government pays a subsidy to people below the poverty level regardless of whether they were employed.

In this video Friedman debates his negative income tax system with William F. Buckley Jr.

Sowell agreed with Friedman on this type of welfare policy.

The implication was that this was a transitional type of system that would incentivize people lifting themselves out of poverty and would eventually be unnecessary, or less necessary.

[–]Terron1965 1 ポイント2 ポイント

You are leaving out the fact that Friedman only supports this type of program as a lessor of 2 evils. He basically states it is better then what we have and that the current system has so corrupted its victims that something must be done rather then cutting them off cold.

We have the earned income tax credit that helps many of the working poor that have families. The moral hazard of a straight guaranteed income is unworkable with our current immigration policy and we cannot abandon immigration without hurting our competitiveness in the future.

[–]Nudity_Is_Freedom 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Our problems have arisen from good people, who are fundamentally good, but are trying to do good in a flawed way.

Friedman has a way with words. Thanks for the link, he has some interesting commentary there. His suggestion to prevent the restriction of an overspending government is interesting, as this was back in the 70's. We seem to have accepted that trap as inevitable?

[–]_nate_higgers 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I'm reading a book of his right now. This guy is the best.

[–]writeonbrother 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Sowell is the man! I used to love it when he and Milton Friedman would give the libs a smack down on those old PBS shows. We could sure use Friedman today.

[–]Zenquin 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I would like to know what year he said that in, because that has been the left's recent narrative.

[–]ayrnieu -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

What do they want to go back to? Communism?

[–]cracell 2 ポイント3 ポイント

No they want to go back to pre-Reagan times, kinda like the post-WW2 New Deal. So more socialist programs, industry regulations, infrastructure building and heavy taxing of the wealthy.

[–]usuallyskepticalRand Paul Conservative 0 ポイント1 ポイント

[–]ayrnieu -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Huh. My next guess would've been the French Revolution. So they want an endless economic depression for the proles and an unfettered bureaucracy as their private playground. Yeah, that's "the usual", not a rebirth of old ideas. Maybe what they want to resurrect is just all the old propaganda.

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