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[–]elusivewater 86 ポイント87 ポイント

Unpopular opinion here: it's going to change the attitude of the enter reddit community rather than go with the majority of opinions. For example if something has a high amount of upvotes it's more likely people will upvote it rather than think about the comment themselves.

In my opinion this is a good way to evolve the reddit community into a more intelligible one.

EDIT: OK I can see what a lot of you are getting at. You can still see how many upvotes or down votes people get and the? /? Wouldn't change that regardless. This is more about controversy. You can put your pitchforks down plz.

[–]sin_eater82 37 ポイント38 ポイント

But a high amount of karma (which is still visible) innately has a lot of upvotes. I don't really get how this is any different regarding what you're saying. If something has positive I arma, then more people voted for it. Actually, the percentages will actually make it even more apparent how many people up voted vs down voted as far as comparing the two go and majority.

[–]I <3 Muffin Puffinwhubbard 24 ポイント25 ポイント

Exactly. If anything, this will raise more questions. There is a fucking massive difference between a post with 500|475 and a post with 25|0, I don't understand why the admins don't get this.

[–]WorkWork 1 ポイント2 ポイント

The point, I think, is now you have to critically think about a greater number of comments rather than the (500|475) painting you one way without ever having read the comment.

I feel like by itself this is only a step in the right direction, so the confusion is understandable... but at least it's something.

[–]berserker87 9 ポイント10 ポイント

It's horseshit. It's not going to change anything, other than make it more impossible to know how successful or controversial a post is. Neither of those things are any worse than knowing how much karma a post has received. Things with more karma get top exposure and get more karma, nothing will change except things will be less transparent. That's bad.

[–]gyrferret 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Not always. There are some subs where comments karma is hidden and comments can also be somewhat scrambled, such that the highest rated comment isn't always At the top, with the next highest proceeding it and so on.

[–]pilekrig 5 ポイント6 ポイント

My only issue is just that I like to know how many people have weighed in on comments. Like I got crushed for a comment I made earlier, but want to know if 100 people upvoted and 180 downvoted, or if it was just every one of the 80 people who saw it hated it. Even if the count is imperfect, it's nice to roughly see the traffic on it.

[–]2muffins 16 ポイント17 ポイント

What the fuck are you talking about? I can still see the difference in the visible score. The top comments will still be at the top. The people who vote with the heard will still upvote the top comments.

The difference now is that a comment with a 1 score could be (1|0) or (36|35). Those are the comments which catch my attention and I read carefully to make my decision.

[–]viveledodo 3 ポイント4 ポイント

If you want to see those comments you should try out the controversial setting.

[–]2muffins 6 ポイント7 ポイント

That only works for the initial comments. I've you reddited for longer than 5 minutes, you know that the comment section is about the subsequent discussion not just the initial comment. I can't sort main comments by top and then 2nd or 3rd tier comments by controversial.

All that aside, I still can't tell exactly how controversial something is. A controversial comment in /r/bassfishing could be (4|5) where as an /r/askreddit controversial comment could be (37|52). Those scores would just show as -1 and -15 respectively. You can't derive anything from total score.

[–]viveledodo 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Touché, have a ?

[–]Bramse -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

This. It won't change the scores. I have no idea what elusivewater is talking about.

[–]ieatfishes 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I mean, I knew how many people cared about their karma and being accepted by the 'community' more than the content but this whining and outrage is hilarious.

"But how will I know if I have 495 downvotes and 500 upvotes or just 5 upvotes?" Who cares? Will you change yourself just to get more upvotes or less downvotes for a small demographic of anonymous strangers on a website? Apparently so.

[–]Frekavichk 13 ポイント14 ポイント

Okay, so why is this good?

Personally, I like to know, especially in smaller subs, whether my comment was taken mostly positively or if it was pretty controversial.

+5 could be 15/10 or 5/0. One says people are pretty split on the issue, another says that the ones voting are in agreement that it is a good comment.

[–]Evolutioneer -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

Then it will show either +5 (60%) or +5 (100%). What's the problem?

[–]cwearly1[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント

It doesn't show percentage for comments.
That's the LEAST they can do.

[–]Mousse_is_Optional 2 ポイント3 ポイント

No it won't, not for comments.

[–]Frekavichk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

...

Not for comments.

[–]Xantoxu 0 ポイント1 ポイント

A comment with 0 points will be 50% always. Regardless of whether you had 1 downvote or a 101 votes. And even still, we don't get the % for comments. Which is fucked.

[–]berserker87 2 ポイント3 ポイント

It's not about "changing yourself." Sometimes it's nice to know how many people agree or disagree with your post, particularly in discussion-based subreddits. It doesn't matter, none of this shit does. But if it's not broke, why fix it?

[–]jcannon98188 3 ポイント4 ポイント

It matters. Posts with 5 | 0 probably didn't resonate with a lot of people while a 500 | 495 both resonated and caused discussion. This can be helpful when working in small subreddits where seeing large numbers of downvotes usually means trolls/brigades. Now it becomes almost impossible to tell if it was just a neglected comment, or one targeted by others.

[–]Zacmon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

People are upset because it does matter how many people chimed in to someone else's post. It shows exactly how many people thought a talking point was good or not, so a 120|110 post is generally much more interesting and debatable than, say, 10|0. Being able to see the flow of upvotes/downvotes on each comment gives you a more clear history of the conversation.

Yes, there is the karma score aspect, which people generally want a lot of, but that fuels the conversation. It's an incentive that obliges people to speak their opinion even when they aren't too sure about it. Its meaningless, of course, but it works. It works very well.

[–]brikad 0 ポイント1 ポイント

That's so weird that people just upvote every post. I never upvote unless something's really good or really clever, and never downvote unless something is just completely stupid or erroneous.

Do most people go through upvoting every comment? Am I doing it wrong?

[–]schniggens 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It won't do that at all. The point total is still visible and comments with a higher score are still going to be at the top. All it does is remove the ability to tell if a comment has a low score because it's controversial (has an equal number of upvotes and downvotes) or because it just hasn't been voted on at all.

[–]the_omega99 1 ポイント2 ポイント

In addition to the other replies, it should be noted that this doesn't affect the ordering of comments. For the most part, getting upvotes puts your comment in a more visible location. In my opinion, this is the main driving force behind "the posts with the most upvotes will get even more upvotes", not the actual score.

[–]BabyNinjaJesus 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Ahhaaha

[–]BoosTerribleThings 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If they could find a way of completely removing then voting system from this structure, then maybe.

People come to Reddit to appease their narcissistic and hive-minded tendencies.

[–]PurpleMTL -1 ポイント0 ポイント

You have my ?... guess which one.

[–]geekygirl23 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Almost 7 years of devolution to overcome, uphill battle.

[–]Bramse -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

What the fuck? That has nothing to do with what you're saying.

[–]sian92 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Thank you. Especially when they've been inflating the counts anyway.