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[–]alexnader 45 ポイント46 ポイント

I've been sitting here all day wondering what had happened: was it the firefox update, the fact that I switched to "do not track", any of the add-ons I installed today ...

Thanks for clearing that up for me, it was really gnawing at me.

[–]gnarledout 16 ポイント17 ポイント

I really don't know what is going on. Before I up/down vote all I see is (?|?). After I up/down vote I see a number saying either + or - points. Is this all we will be seeing from now on?

[–]TeopEvol 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Seriously, I thought I had made an offensive comment or something and got banned. Never been banned for anything so I thought that was what happened...like a punishment or something.

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    [–]Metroidman 43 ポイント44 ポイント

    Its actually /u/sgtstubby 's fault

    [–]Slash-E 9 ポイント10 ポイント

    Why? What did he do?

    [–]cwearly1[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント

    It's a joke.
    In another thread he commented he thought he broke reddit.
    Everyone then said he did and it's just really funny :P

    [–]cwearly1[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント

    I heard about that! Poor guy, getting all the flack :/

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      [–]aericdraven 703 ポイント704 ポイント

      Is that what this dumb shit is? I thought it was RES. Agreed, bullshit.

      [–]cwearly1[S] 501 ポイント502 ポイント

      Thank you!
      Here, have an ?

      [–]aericdraven 179 ポイント180 ポイント

      Lol, I thought I forgot punctuation. You get a ? too.

      [–]isactuallyspiderman 133 ポイント134 ポイント

      YOU GET AN ?VOTE, AND YOU GET AN ?VOTE!!

      [–]Noble_Flatulence 79 ポイント80 ポイント

      Por qué no ¿

      [–]aericdraven 133 ポイント134 ポイント

      ¿

      I now vote this the new downvote (if it remains intact). Do I have a second?

      [–]Roland_of_Gilead408 46 ポイント47 ポイント

      This is history in the making.

      [–]ISayWhatEvery1Thinks 22 ポイント23 ポイント

      ¿ I wanted to try it out!

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        [–]ZeroDayKiller 9 ポイント10 ポイント

        That means i have to duel on your behalf if you die or skip town before the fight though, doesn't it?

        Fuck it, I'm in.. Let's stab cunts.

        [–]aericdraven 3 ポイント4 ポイント

        Not in this day and age. If you second me it means it goes to congress and we have to pay shit tons of money to get it passed.

        I prefer trial by combat, so we could do that... seems easier.

        [–]ZeroDayKiller 3 ポイント4 ポイント

        So we.... vote cunts?

        confused hound look

        [–]unicornographer 0 ポイント1 ポイント

        This killed me. I'm dead from laughter.

        [–]mdot 2 ポイント3 ポイント

        ¿'ed

        [–]TRAIN_WRECK_0 2 ポイント3 ポイント

        ¿

        [–]BlooburyPancakes 2 ポイント3 ポイント

        Let us go side by side into the fray.

        [–]itemic 1 ポイント2 ポイント

        ?voted.

        [–]gunman9998 0 ポイント1 ポイント

        You have my ?vote.

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          [–]BBQsauce18 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          ?voted

          [–]MysteryGreen 46 ポイント47 ポイント

          An aladeen

          [–]cwearly1[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント

          And an ?vote for you!

          [–]RoyalPrinceSoldier 7 ポイント8 ポイント

          You used an "an" so it's an upvote!

          [–]MisSigsFan 11 ポイント12 ポイント

          Do you want the aladeen news...or the aladeen news?

          Fuck it, take the aladeen news.

          [–]i_give_you_gum 7 ポイント8 ポイント

          ¿

          i'm sorry

          [–]MisSigsFan 4 ポイント5 ポイント

          Aren't you supposed to give me gum?

          [–]i_give_you_gum 4 ポイント5 ポイント

          just this once.

          [–]Spugly 4 ポイント5 ポイント

          Aww....

          [–]Aldrai 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          Nobody pays me in gum...

          [–]Hashtag_Taha 2 ポイント3 ポイント

          You are HIV aladeen.

          [–]GlennRhee1 3 ポイント4 ポイント

          I thought they were 7s... oops.

          [–]Aldrai 3 ポイント4 ポイント

          Most certainly! Have a ?!

          [–]eggplantkaritkake 2 ポイント3 ポイント

          ?s for both of you!

          I can't wait for the reaction ? gifs...

          [–]cwearly1[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

          I upvoted your comment.

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            [–]derping 0 ポイント1 ポイント

            me to, wtf is the point of having anything there if it's just a ?

            ???????

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              [–]FindMeNow 108 ポイント109 ポイント

              I can't tell if this meme will be successful!!! kill me now!!!!

              [–]royal_dump 14 ポイント15 ポイント

              why does it matter?

              [–]RubbahSN 299 ポイント300 ポイント

              Well, I use Baconreader and that doesn't give me counters anyways, so no biggie

              [–]realityislame 94 ポイント95 ポイント

              Why is it I can see the upvote counter just fine?

              [–]Akasirus 35 ポイント36 ポイント

              For comments, there used to be data available that would show something like +12 (22|10) where 22 was the total up votes and 10 was the number of downvotes. Now only the net upvotes are available.

              [–]Rise Shining Gundam!blaghart 62 ポイント63 ポイント

              To be fair that was roughly half the reason to get RES. The other half was the ability to open image links on the page.

              [–]OkayPlsStop 18 ポイント19 ポイント

              Also changing the size of a pic

              [–]mofobreadcrumbs 12 ポイント13 ポイント

              And infinity pages.

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                  [–]isactuallyspiderman 85 ポイント86 ポイント

                  How do people still not understand this? They didn't take away the point counter, they removed the upvote/downvote count through RES. Read the announcement please.

                  Edit: Changed upvote counter to "point counter".

                  [–]Rise Shining Gundam!blaghart 47 ポイント48 ポイント

                  They also removed the Up/down counters on posts, though for some reason they still left the % of people that like it. It seems bizarre to me, especially to combat people posting "why is this getting downvoted".

                  [–]huzzy 22 ポイント23 ポイント

                  So technically you can calculate up/downvotes in your own.

                  Ex. A post has 1000 upvotes, indicating 80% like it. 1000/.8 = 1250.
                  Then that means it received 1250 votes, of which 1000 (80%) were upvotes and 250 downvotes, netting to it's current score of 1000.

                  [–]Rise Shining Gundam!blaghart 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                  Yea, except that A) defeats their justification for removing it (since you can still tell that something has been downvoted, leading to the "why is this being downvoted?" comment they're trying to stop) and B) it doesn't apply to comments, which are far more numerous on reddit.

                  [–]frakkin 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                  That's not true. They're still fuzzing the overall vote count. So even if 30,000 people have up voted, the upvote count will still show around 2000-3000. But they give an honest representation of the percentages.

                  [–]gippered 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                  But what if 0% like it?

                  [–]gummywormsyum 18 ポイント19 ポイント

                  percent scores aren't reported for comments, only submissions

                  [–]Sparkvoltage 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                  And even if they were...

                  [–]huzzy 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                  Which is what my example related to. I used the word "post", which is used interchangeably with "submissions" on reddit.

                  [–]dontcallitjelly 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                  that.....that sounds like work.

                  [–]Gharst 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                  Your math isn't even right. 1000 upvotes and 250 downvotes is 750 points.

                  [–]Mudnart 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                  Nope. Your math is missing that one downvote counteracts one upvote.

                  A page has zero karma if 50% or more of the votes are downvotes. Your example shows a page with 1000 karma and 80% that like it. 30% times 2 (80% liked minus 50% times 2) of the votes is represented in the 1000 karma.

                  100%*1000/60%=1666 total votes

                  80%*1666=1,332 total upvotes

                  20%*1666=333 total downvotes

                  I rounded since reddit's percentage is also rounded. Numbers are approximate.

                  [–]operationhotmess 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                  I want to like this. But I really struggle with drunk math.

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                    [–]isactuallyspiderman 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                    I'm sorry if this seems rash, but to me this is the first step of the slow year long death of reddit.

                    [–]Chameleonpolice 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                    You think the end of one of the most popular websites on the planet will be because you can't see the number of people who voted yes or no on a topic?

                    [–]DarkAutumn 15 ポイント16 ポイント

                    Do you really think there is no change Reddit could make that would cause a mass exodus?

                    Digg lost half of its traffic in one year, and half of the remainder in the year after that. It's not that far fetched. Now I don't think this change will cause a mass exodus, and neither does spiderman. I think he's saying it's a start in that direction.

                    [–]cypherreddit 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                    No, Spiderman doesn't think this will end Reddit, he clearly said

                    first step

                    [–]MIXEDGREENS 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                    Contributors like feedback. Reddit gave contributors new and better ways of getting feedback. Now they've taken it away.

                    Reddit wouldn't/won't be the first 'most popular website on the planet' to dethrone itself by pissing off the miniscule yet vital population of members that it forgets make it a site worth going to for the other 99% of its visitors.

                    [–]fuzzydunlots 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                    Yes, its openess is important.

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                        [–]PurpleMTL -1 ポイント0 ポイント

                        Let's give this guy some ? for being a genius.

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                          [–]Psythik 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                          That's not the upvote counter you're seeing, that's the score, which is the upvotes minus downvotes. Nobody ever uses the right terminology so I can understand why you're confused.

                          [–]datlibra17 13 ポイント14 ポイント

                          my baconreader gave me counters, but now it just shows the vote difference in the upvote column and there's just a 0 in the downvote column

                          [–]happycrabeatsthefish 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                          Reddit sync user, and it does the same thing here too

                          [–]stab244 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          I think he was talking about comments, which didn't have the counter. Posts did though.

                          [–]datlibra17 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          ohhhh ok, that is true, never saw counters for comments

                          [–]tommyboyshaw 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          I see negative downvotes.

                          [–]datlibra17 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          so, you see upvotes?

                          [–]tommyboyshaw 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          No, anti-electrons and positrons are not the same thing, so neither are upvotes and negative downvotes.

                          Wait no, that's wrong.

                          [–]FatBeardedMan 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                          Haha! Bacon, pfft!

                          [–]deadcom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          ¿

                          [–]123Cory321 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                          Actually it does...

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                            [–]octavesemitone 28 ポイント29 ポイント

                            and they don't care

                            [–]Turakamu 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                            upvotes the link, downvotes everything the uploader comments on

                            [–]thats_a_risky_click 18 ポイント19 ポイント

                            -----------E

                            -----------E

                            -----------E

                            Pitchforks here! Get your pitchforks here!

                            [–]erelim 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                            Vote counters have been useless especially for high scoring links/comments because of fuzzing, I rather not be lied to.

                            On the other hand, in small subs it's a little inconvenient but I've noticed fuzzing can occur on comments or posts with as few as 10 upvotes.

                            I think that reddit should show accurate vote counting until fuzzing occurs then hide it.

                            [–]zppa 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                            Instead of fixing the algorithm, they just hid the numbers. That's programmer thinking not something usable for the users.

                            [–]elusivewater 86 ポイント87 ポイント

                            Unpopular opinion here: it's going to change the attitude of the enter reddit community rather than go with the majority of opinions. For example if something has a high amount of upvotes it's more likely people will upvote it rather than think about the comment themselves.

                            In my opinion this is a good way to evolve the reddit community into a more intelligible one.

                            EDIT: OK I can see what a lot of you are getting at. You can still see how many upvotes or down votes people get and the? /? Wouldn't change that regardless. This is more about controversy. You can put your pitchforks down plz.

                            [–]sin_eater82 38 ポイント39 ポイント

                            But a high amount of karma (which is still visible) innately has a lot of upvotes. I don't really get how this is any different regarding what you're saying. If something has positive I arma, then more people voted for it. Actually, the percentages will actually make it even more apparent how many people up voted vs down voted as far as comparing the two go and majority.

                            [–]I <3 Muffin Puffinwhubbard 24 ポイント25 ポイント

                            Exactly. If anything, this will raise more questions. There is a fucking massive difference between a post with 500|475 and a post with 25|0, I don't understand why the admins don't get this.

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                              [–]pilekrig 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                              My only issue is just that I like to know how many people have weighed in on comments. Like I got crushed for a comment I made earlier, but want to know if 100 people upvoted and 180 downvoted, or if it was just every one of the 80 people who saw it hated it. Even if the count is imperfect, it's nice to roughly see the traffic on it.

                              [–]2muffins 16 ポイント17 ポイント

                              What the fuck are you talking about? I can still see the difference in the visible score. The top comments will still be at the top. The people who vote with the heard will still upvote the top comments.

                              The difference now is that a comment with a 1 score could be (1|0) or (36|35). Those are the comments which catch my attention and I read carefully to make my decision.

                              [–]viveledodo 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                              If you want to see those comments you should try out the controversial setting.

                              [–]2muffins 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                              That only works for the initial comments. I've you reddited for longer than 5 minutes, you know that the comment section is about the subsequent discussion not just the initial comment. I can't sort main comments by top and then 2nd or 3rd tier comments by controversial.

                              All that aside, I still can't tell exactly how controversial something is. A controversial comment in /r/bassfishing could be (4|5) where as an /r/askreddit controversial comment could be (37|52). Those scores would just show as -1 and -15 respectively. You can't derive anything from total score.

                              [–]viveledodo 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                              Touché, have a ?

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                                [–]ieatfishes 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                I mean, I knew how many people cared about their karma and being accepted by the 'community' more than the content but this whining and outrage is hilarious.

                                "But how will I know if I have 495 downvotes and 500 upvotes or just 5 upvotes?" Who cares? Will you change yourself just to get more upvotes or less downvotes for a small demographic of anonymous strangers on a website? Apparently so.

                                [–]Frekavichk 14 ポイント15 ポイント

                                Okay, so why is this good?

                                Personally, I like to know, especially in smaller subs, whether my comment was taken mostly positively or if it was pretty controversial.

                                +5 could be 15/10 or 5/0. One says people are pretty split on the issue, another says that the ones voting are in agreement that it is a good comment.

                                [–]berserker87 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                It's not about "changing yourself." Sometimes it's nice to know how many people agree or disagree with your post, particularly in discussion-based subreddits. It doesn't matter, none of this shit does. But if it's not broke, why fix it?

                                [–]jcannon98188 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                It matters. Posts with 5 | 0 probably didn't resonate with a lot of people while a 500 | 495 both resonated and caused discussion. This can be helpful when working in small subreddits where seeing large numbers of downvotes usually means trolls/brigades. Now it becomes almost impossible to tell if it was just a neglected comment, or one targeted by others.

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                                  [–]brikad 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                  That's so weird that people just upvote every post. I never upvote unless something's really good or really clever, and never downvote unless something is just completely stupid or erroneous.

                                  Do most people go through upvoting every comment? Am I doing it wrong?

                                  [–]schniggens 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                  It won't do that at all. The point total is still visible and comments with a higher score are still going to be at the top. All it does is remove the ability to tell if a comment has a low score because it's controversial (has an equal number of upvotes and downvotes) or because it just hasn't been voted on at all.

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                                    [–]htmldotbob 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                    I was debating re-installing RES. Thank you for saving me the 5 clicks.

                                    [–]omniqix 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                    I'd like them back too

                                    [–]PsychoJester 52 ポイント53 ポイント

                                    Why the hell does it matter? The numbers were meaningless anyways since they were fuzzed.

                                    [–]timdorr 59 ポイント60 ポイント

                                    Actually, it's going to completely destroy voting in subreddits like /r/photoshopbattles, where they only take into account positive upvotes to determine a winner. Now people can be dicks and downvote a submission to have it lose.

                                    [–]featherfooted 13 ポイント14 ポイント

                                    Contest Mode hasn't been changed, and really should be used universally for polls like that (I don't browse photoshopbattles, but they should take a look at it) because it displays entries randomly rather than in sorted order.

                                    [–]Evolutioneer 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                    I thought it was random so everyone had a fair chance of being at the top for times when a really great entry exists but took time and would otherwise have to compete with the already established top post.

                                    [–]featherfooted 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                    Nope, totally random

                                    EDIT: on second read I think your comment wasn't debating if Contest Mode was random, but rather why it was put into effect in the first place. For that, I don't know. I just know how it works.

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                                      [–]Frekavichk 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                      Actually, no. Fuzzing only actually started to make things veer from fact after like 100 points.

                                      Otherwise, it was close enough to the real vote count that it didn't matter. This is going to fuck over small subs big time.

                                      .

                                      Also, why the fuck would you try and counter people's problems with a change with 'Why does it matter?'

                                      You should be asking "What positive aspects does this change have?" because if reddit keeps changing things for the sake of change, they are going to go the way of digg very soon.

                                      [–]stewsky 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                      It will be much easier to inject paid for posts into the front page if there are no vote counters I would think.

                                      [–]schniggens 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                      Yeah, but you could still see the relative amounts of upvotes vs. downvotes. You could see if a comment was really popular or if it was relatively controversial. A comment with a score of 20 could have a 21/1 vote ratio or 200/180 vote ratio. That's a pretty big difference.

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                                        [–]ersatz_cats 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                        Tangentially related, just yesterday my housemates were talking about "The most downvoted comment in Reddit history (allegedly)", Karmanaut's weak explanation of why the Bad Luck Brian AMA was deleted. I looked it up, left it open, and just now realized I still had that tab open showing the total votes, whereas opening the tab now just shows the final score. So, if the admins don't reverse this change, this could be the last screencap of it (and yes, I did try to downvote him, lol).

                                        [–]thenfour 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                        Except that downvote count is fudged. It's not real, which is one of the motivating reasons to remove these metrics entirely from view. I just hope they replace it with something that makes more sense for everyone.

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                                          [–]imgurtranscriber 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                          Here is what the linked meme says in case it is blocked at your school/work or is unavailable for any reason:

                                          Matrix Morpheus

                                          Post Title: Dear Admins,

                                          Top: WHAT IF I TOLD YOU

                                          Bottom: REMOVING THE UPVOTE/DOWNVOTE COUNTERS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU'VE DONE

                                          Original Link1 | Meme Template2

                                          [–]skwisinferis 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                          I don't know who downvoted you. You're only doing your job. You deserve better than this imgurtranscriber. Have an upvote on me.

                                          [–]aryst0krat[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                          I don't know who downvoted you.

                                          But no, the worst idea.

                                          [–]OfficeChairHero 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                          Perhaps if we all vocalized our up/downvotes, they would reconsider? Having a thread with 50,000 comments, most of which consist of "I upvoted you" would be an effective protest, even if it's annoying for a few days.

                                          Btw, I upvoted this submission. Enjoy!

                                          [–]cwearly1[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                          Haha. Like the Bob's Army when G+ was added to YouTube!
                                          Interesting :P

                                          [–]OfficeChairHero 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                          I upvoted your comment!

                                          [–]TheCulpMan 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                          I upvoted your comment!

                                          [–]cwearly1[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                          I upvoted your comment!

                                          [–]jcannon98188 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                          I can't tell if no one upvoted you, or if a lot of people down voted you.

                                          sigh

                                          I upvoted your comment!

                                          [–]MisterGoober 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                          I upvoted your comment!

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                                            [–]sportsandbeer10 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                            The sad thing is that they won't change it unless people keep complaining. It's like the puffin ban. Redditors bitched and moaned about the puffin ban for about 3 days but nothing was ever done about it because people just stopped caring.

                                            [–]D14BL0 17 ポイント18 ポイント

                                            What if I told you

                                            It's only because people were abusing the system to try to get their spam to the frontpage?

                                            [–]2muffins 14 ポイント15 ポイント

                                            Where did you read that?

                                            [–]jcannon98188 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                            Seriously. What spam was on the front page? I assume he means memes that popular users have posted, but that won't change

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                                              [–]Psythik 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                              I don't care that they removed the submission up/down count. The fact that they removed the count for comments as well is what is getting reddit up in arms. There was literally no reason to do this as comments rarely affect a post's front page status.

                                              [–]D14BL0 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                              It's always been believed that comment activity is factored into whether or not a submission makes the frontpage.

                                              I'd venture a guess and say that by the fact that the admins disabled it for comments, too, that it was an accurate assessment all along.

                                              [–]Roller_ball 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                              Ugh, why does it seem like the front page is constantly the shit that ruins everything for everyone?

                                              [–]TestGreyCr0ss 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                              I find it far more likely that it's because people were mass downvoting sponsored posts, and the sponsors didn't like that too much. Just a guess.

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                                                [–]bitternsalty 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                                They still exist on "reddit is fun"

                                                [–]voidFunction 13 ポイント14 ポイント

                                                This isn't some CSS trick. The actual website is not releasing that info to the user. Unless an app is hacking into Reddit servers, then there exists no way for it to have those numbers.

                                                [–]Aflimacon 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                                We should get somebody on that.

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                                                  [–]maxreverb 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                                  Nope. That's not the total upvotes and total downvotes... it's just a tally.

                                                  [–]davidrico77 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                  I've been living a lie ):

                                                  [–]friday6700 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                  Which is how it used to be. I feel like I'm the only one who remembers this.

                                                  [–]Frekavichk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                  Good point. "This is what is was before" is a great argument.

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                                                    [–]mdot 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                    Actually, no...no they don't.

                                                    There used to be upvote and downvote totals, not just upvotes minus downvotes.

                                                    [–]bitternsalty 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                    Don't you push your athletic taped glasses up your nose at me!

                                                    [–]schmucubrator 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                    sshhh!

                                                    [–]uw_NB 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                    I fucking hate it when people tell me what is fun... FUCK YOU YOU DONT KNOW ME!

                                                    Last time i heard these 'fun' shits was on a shitty F2P mobile game that you need to pay to speed things up to actually play the game.

                                                    [–]falicor 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                    I didn't even know it was missing

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                                                      [–]ohgodhowdidthisget 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      I don't get what the big deal is, personally. I don't see how it will be better or worse. I'm interested in seeing how things play out though.

                                                      [–]Guitello 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      What is this referring to? nothing seems different from other subs to me

                                                      [–]prerecordedeulogy 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      I thought it was my sketchy internet for some reason.

                                                      [–]darkbartlon 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      I don't know, remember when they removed the number of the links? That was pretty stupid too

                                                      [–]cwearly1[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                      I've only used this account since February, so no I don't remember.

                                                      [–]TheyCallMeAHuman 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                      The point is, ultra redditors can still calculate the number of upvotes and downvotes. Right now I see this post has got 1756 upvotes. And it also says that these are the 81% of the total voters who like it. So 100%-81%= 19%. And therefore 1756*1.19=2089.64~2090. 1756-2090=334. So 334 users have downvoted this post. RES developers can try this trick to remove the ?votes and ¿votes.

                                                      [–]Hrel 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      I actually really like it. Everyone still gets karma, I think. But even if they don't.

                                                      It removes karma as a motivating factor. Forcing people to upvote/downvote based on the quality of the post/comment instead of based on the bullshit people normally vote on. Like disagreeing with it. Or not liking the person. Or wanting the number to be even or odd. Or whatever other bullshit they use as excuses for bigotry.

                                                      [–]Broxxiga 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                      I never knew people cared about the counters until they removed them, the more you know.

                                                      [–]AgonistX 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                                      Digg 5.0

                                                      [–]Khaze 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                                      I've seen this comment so many times. The level of butthurt required to threaten the admins with their site going the way of the dinosaur because you can no longer see the up/down ratio on comments is extreme.

                                                      [–]Frekavichk 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                      Sure, but this change shows the direction admins are taking this site in: more like facebook, less like what reddit should be.

                                                      [–]YayMisandry 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                      Right? What a bunch of whining children.

                                                      [–]Cobaltsaber 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                      I fully disagree. Or maybe I ignored you. We may never know....

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                                                        [–]Grudgecrown 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                        Reddit needs an actual facelift. Not counter removal. Fucking stupid.

                                                        [–]murtadi007 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                        Might as well sell the website to facebook at this point.

                                                        [–]greenseaglitch 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                        Here, have a ?vote.

                                                        [–]craig131 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                        They'll be back by the end of tomorrow (or something similar). I'll set my watch and warrant on it. Good job to everyone who brought how terrible this decision was to their attention.

                                                        [–]SujingXu815 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                        I didn't even notice until you pointed it out D: I agree with you though.

                                                        [–]sunshinerf 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                        What's the point in voting if you can't see the score? This sucks.

                                                        [–]miko9999 14 ポイント15 ポイント

                                                        Go outside.

                                                        [–]2muffins 11 ポイント12 ポイント

                                                        Jokes on you. I have reddit on my phone and can reddit in the park.

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                                                          [–]kyjoca 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                                          What makes it so stupid?

                                                          [–]2muffins 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                                          It makes it stupid because vote counts are useful in smaller subreddit comment sections. You can see what is controversial and in what way. Now a 1 score comment is indistinguishable from a (1|0) to a (22|21).

                                                          [–]Frekavichk 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                          The inability to distinguish a low-upvoted comment that most people agree with to a high upvoted comment/high downvoted comment that is highly controversial.

                                                          Also, there is no upside to this change that I can see, so that should be enough to not change anything.

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                                                            [–]ManOfTheInBetween 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                            I sincerely hope this is reversed soon because it's ruining the reddit experience. Is it likely though?????????????

                                                            [–]Bommer-Sooner 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                                            No. The admins pretty much said they don't give a fuck what we say and unless we make it a giant issue for a long time they won't change it.

                                                            Well fuck you too admins.

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                                                              [–]zodiac720 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                              No the team challenge was definitely the dumbest thing they've ever done. That actually fucked up everything....

                                                              [–]SomeThingsNeedDoing 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                              Most Stupid

                                                              [–]Epic_Sam 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                              I absolutely agree with you. Here, have a ?.

                                                              [–]twinkyhouse 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                              STUPIDEST thing EVER, GAWD. What is WRONG with PEOPLE! NEW! FUCK NEW!

                                                              I LIKE MY SITES LIKE I LIKE MY OC; BEATEN TO DEATH AND UNCHANGING!!!!!!1

                                                              [–]wipeout4wh 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                                              FUCK NEW!

                                                              This isn't even 'new', though. They removed a feature, while adding nothing of value to the site.

                                                              [–]isactuallyspiderman 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                              Hey, you should make a meme about that.

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                                                                [–]TaichX 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                I must have totally missed this. I've seen the votes every time I logged in via my phone today.

                                                                [–]uncommonman 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                Same here

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                                                                  [–]pie-man 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                  Thanks Obama with your change and shit

                                                                  [–]crazymunch 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                  Does noone else here know that the counters were completely false anyway? Vote fuzzing?

                                                                  [–]Ask_A_Sadist 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                  Does anybody even pay attention to the numbers? Honestly? I come here to occasionally blow breath out of my nose in a sign of amusement. You could have changed the counters to a random number generator 6 months ago and I'd never fucking notice.

                                                                  [–]jcannon98188 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                                  Yes, the numbers matter a ton. Good momentum early on in a post is the difference between a post/comment being at the top or buried at the bottom. It also allowed for easy identification of controversial posts to allow discussion to spread.

                                                                  [–]rdswag 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                  The count still appears on mobile, what's all the fuss about?

                                                                  [–]Rickrollyourmom 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                                  Ssshhhhh!!

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                                                                    [–]Mike_Litorus22 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    Why have they removed them?

                                                                    [–]donteventripigotit 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    fuck /u/SgtStubby for breaking reddit

                                                                    [–]weatherhood 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    I was SO confused, thought my internet was shitting the bed or something.

                                                                    [–]Synchrotr0n 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    This posts sucks, but I'll upvote anything that complains about this retarded action made by the Reddit administration.

                                                                    [–]reditr 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    Developer of http://reddit6.com - not sure why Reddit did this, they have the data and they should expose it. It's making more work for us just for the sake of making work.

                                                                    [–]cwearly1[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    sorry, what?

                                                                    [–]muchswag 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                    I use reddit on the app reddit is fun. . Will someone tell me dafuq is going on right now?

                                                                    [–]cwearly1[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                    If you have RES you can't see the total upvotes and total downvotes separately.
                                                                    which sucks.

                                                                    [–]muchswag 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    What's RES. .

                                                                    [–]Chief_Ironlung 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    Maybe I don't understand...

                                                                    I still see upvotes and downvotes.

                                                                    [–]cwearly1[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                                    Screenshot. Now.

                                                                    [–]GrayGhost18 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    Ok so is this something that mobile is unaffected by? Because I have no idea what you all are talking about.

                                                                    [–]gbs213 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    I don't get this. Can someone explain how reddit fucked up?

                                                                    [–]TheSpacemang 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                                    I haven't noticed anything different with voting, am I just stuck in the past or something?

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