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Injustice. (Rant) (self.ForeverAlone)

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[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -8 ポイント-7 ポイント

You people constantly and repatedly overestimate the importance of your looks. I mean Mick Jagger is considered hot by most women. Google him. You can get by with a perfectly average or even below average face just fine.

(Well, unless you are fat. No one likes fat people)

[–]youdhatemeirl[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I'd imagine a millionaire rockstar probably is considered attractive, yes.

[–]ByronicAsian 4 ポイント5 ポイント

I mean Mick Jagger is considered hot by most women

Because he's famous and has money.

[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

So there you go. Get status, and your ugly face doesn't matter.

[–]ByronicAsian 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Let me go to the status store and buy one for .99 cents. /s

[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

The point is, it is something you can get. It's not an irreversible fate like being born with an ass for the face is.

[–]gigawattthesecond 7 ポイント8 ポイント

People with that level of status are like one in a million, you might as well have told him to go win the lottery.

Unless you're REALLY exceptional you are not going to get nearly enough status

Honestly I can't stand it when people pretend things like this are things you can just achieve if you work hard enough, life does not work that way despite what believers of meritocracy would have you believe, this simply isn't an achievable objective for the average man

[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

So what you are basically saying is that multimillion rock stars like Mick Jagger are the only men to ever find a girl. Because they "won the lottery" and everyone else can just sit and whine about it.

Well, if victim complex is how you want to deal with the simple fact that sometimes life requires effort, so be it.

[–]gigawattthesecond 4 ポイント5 ポイント

I'm sorry but the amount of effort that a less attractive person has to put in just to get someone to notice them is ridiculous, like unless they have an absolute stellar personality (which most unattractive people don't due to years of abuse/ being told their ugly destroying their self esteem) it can be near impossible to get a girl to even consider you.

Admittedly ByronicAsian isn't that ugly considering I've seen his picture, but at the same time unless you have a good circle of friends in which you can meet people through it can be quite hard to meet women, never mind find ones interested in you. The whole "go into a bar and find women" only works for the super attractive since it's pretty much all looks based at that point of meeting.

Mick Jagger wasn't even THAT ugly in his early days any way, he only became ugly after he got old and fucked up by drugs.

For some people the effort required is near impossible, I wish people would realise this. Some people really are ugly and the level of status you would need to mitigate that is just not realistic.

[–]ByronicAsian 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Admittedly ByronicAsian isn't that ugly considering I've seen his picture

Daww shucks man... :P

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/049/7/b/colored_hiimdaisy_scene_2_by_xhanniepants-d39u99e.png

[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

You are still assuming looks are as important as the game, which is simply wrong.

Moreover, in most cases this type of reasoning simply serves as a convenient excuse - "Oh, I'm ugly anyway*, so why even bother trying to improve all my other traits".

  • - and even that in most cases is not true, LA have a tendency to approach self-image in the same way teenage girls do

[–]gigawattthesecond 2 ポイント3 ポイント

A lot of people here do improve the other traits they can and get absolutely nowhere. Stories like that have been posted here time and time again, people in their 30's who have tried everything and gotten nowhere.

Looks and game pretty much go hand in hand and complement each other, there are not a lot of ugly people with "game"

[–]bruvbro 3 ポイント4 ポイント

The topic was switched over to the achievement of extreme wealth and fame, I don't think anywhere in his previous response did he say only the rich and famous get girls.

[–]pillarofgrace 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I don't think the point is to develop a "victim complex", or to suggest that they are unwilling to put forth effort. It's the fact that the reward or results coming out is low, compared to the effort already put in. And it's very normal, very human to be frustrated when that is the case - it's not a phenomenon that you look at and think, "OHMYGOODNESS. FA's are the ONLY people who express feelings like this! I am so appalled by it!"

There's no need to pathologize it or call it a complex. It's a human reaction. Operant conditioning. A lot of people here HAVE put in effort and been met with shitty results. No reward to reinforce occurrences of past efforts, no continuation of effort.

[–]BenMeWimmins2 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Mick Jagger in his younger years was waaaaaaaaaay better looking than almost anybody on this subreddit.