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Rape Drama/r/MensRights has a level-headed discussion about college rape: "If you're in a US college, don't have sex. Don't enter a woman's room, don't let them into yours, don't drink with them, don't be near them when you even think they could be drunk, don't even flirt with them." (np.reddit.com)

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[–]thisbaseball17 14 ポイント15 ポイント

Wow, Subredditdrama really has a hate-boner for Mens Rights

Edit: Hard truths are offensive. Here's another one. This isn't actually drama, it's just a top post from a subreddit that SRD tends to target (inb4 shilling calendar), and the comments aren't about the drama. They're just circlejerking about how bad Mens Rights is. I'm not even an 'MRA' but goddam people ...

[–]Cuddle_Apocalypse 27 ポイント28 ポイント

To be fair, they make it really easy.

[–]thisbaseball17 4 ポイント5 ポイント

True, but I liked when SRDrama was about ... Drama

[–]Cuddle_Apocalypse 11 ポイント12 ポイント

It's not like the front page is nothing but shit from MR, you know. Or even mostly. Or even like...more than this post, actually.

[–]Tredoka 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The best way is to just not view MRA/SRS threads. There are plenty of non MRA/SRS threads, you're just choosing to come in here and make yourself mad and post. MRA threads attract SRSers, SRS threads attract MRAs, it's how it goes

[–]comradewilson 11 ポイント12 ポイント

Yea dude people just sitting around in SRD thinking about who they're gonna fuck with their hate boner today.

[–]thisbaseball17 8 ポイント9 ポイント

No, but they definitely target certain subreddits with an agenda in mind instead of finding actual drama.

[–]comradewilson -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Who fucking gives a shit dude it's reddit, if you described conversations like this to someone who didn't use reddit they'd call everyone involved here a child

[–]drawlinnn 1 ポイント2 ポイント

seriously. I get involved in a lot of shit on here but at the end of the day I know this website, all this drama, all this shit is just fucking stupid.

[–]thisbaseball17 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

If you have to say "who gives a shit it's just ____" in any argument, you've lost the argument.

Who gives a shit? You. You're responding to me.

[–]comradewilson 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Yea, it's a massive amount of effort to type a comment back. I'm just saying that maybe some people spend a bit too much time on this site arguing over stupid shit. Go ahead and feel how you want, I won't bother

[–]chickenburgerr 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Drama is drama even if the poster has an agenda.

[–]HashTag-YoloSwag 10 ポイント11 ポイント

There isn't much of a "crazy feminist" presence on reddit. There is some, but it seems to be pretty isolated. Most of the gender drama on this website seems to be generated by MRAs.

posts with an obvious feminist slant get downvoted to oblivion with only a few comments. Posts with an obvious MRA slant get a bunch of MRAs working themselves in to a froth over it in the comments. It's not our fault that they're a bunch of drama queens.

Sure there are feminist subreddits, but I usually don't really see them outside of those subreddits evangelizing their views in the same way that MRAs do.

[–]Tredoka 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I haven't been able to treat MRA's as reasonable people with reasonable concerns since they spammed all those false rape allegations to that college. Since then I've kinda stopped having any sympathy. They focus on the issues that effect us the least, such as financial abortion (aka how can I be a total douchebag to my future child?) or false rape accusations (which are 3% or 8% of all rapes according to two studies Iv'e seen).

[–]thisbaseball17 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

I don't really care. Go somewhere else to fight your gender wars. Or being some actual drama from there.

[–]00191 7 ポイント8 ポイント

http://i4.minus.com/i3qYP4k1u1tIj.png

You can thank the SRD mods for letting all of their friends in this screenshot brigade this subreddit every day. SRS took this sub over this time last year and it's been destroyed by them.

[–]shakypears 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Wait a minute. You tag transgender folks with the same tag you do for SRSers and other folks you don't like? What's up with that?

Oh, by the way, yes, this is my dramasphere account. My only dramasphere account, if your tag is implying what I think it's implying. I really do actually most of my time on reddit on SRD and conspiratard. I like it here.

[–]Tredoka 6 ポイント7 ポイント

those SRS tags seem pretty broken

wait TPB is SRS now? You guys are just refining the list down further and further until the only people who aren't SRSers are SRSsuckers and MRAs?

[–]shakypears 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Seems so.

[–]Enleat 4 ポイント5 ポイント

You are aware that the biggest overlap with /r/SRD is /r/TiA?

It's not /r/SRD's fault if MRA's keep acting like fucking idiots and causing drama....

No, must be an SRS conspiracy, only logical explanation.

[–]thisbaseball17 8 ポイント9 ポイント

The 'gender wars' need their own meta Subreddit. Too many people use SRD to push their gender-agendas instead of pointing out drama.

[–]Truffle_life 1 ポイント2 ポイント

d-do you wanna tag me with SRD as well to help with your butthurt?

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Damn.

And you left out /u/boom_shoes, who would fall under "circlebroke" as well as /u/rokkaku_police, who would fall under "SRS."

[–]Dharmasatya -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Yeah, the concept of not being a rape-y douchebag is just SO oppressive to the average person. I mean, how else are you gonna get some, amirite? Threads like this just prove that normal sexuality is totes under attack. Fucking people who might not be able to give informed consent is just BIOTRUTHS, man.

/s

[–]iSanddbox 15 ポイント16 ポイント

Did you read the linked comment? This is a case of clearly consensual sex that is being treated as rape. It really is an issue of normal sexuality being under attack.

[–]Dharmasatya 4 ポイント5 ポイント

I'm referring to the whiny asshole who's involved in all the drama llama.

You're here thinking this is either SRSDiscussion or /r/mensrights or whatever. Chill the fuck out. This isn't a platform for your paranoia, man.

[–]iSanddbox 0 ポイント1 ポイント

If you're going to take a clear-cut case of false rape accusation, then characterize it as a guy wanting to be a rape-y douchebag...you should be prepared for your dumb ideas to be discussed. Sorry, dudebro.

[–]Tredoka 4 ポイント5 ポイント

I think people are reacting to the comment made by the poster about fearing all women and not the actual piece of news the thread is discussing overall.

[–]Mr_Tom_Nook 2 ポイント3 ポイント

You can thank the SRD mods

haha! what?! even if this organised(?) occupation of SRD by SRS is real, how could you place responsibility on the mods? i mean... maybe i'm the only one who thinks so, but this would be hilarious if it were true. overtaking SRD for ideological reasons would probably be the biggest fucking waste of time in internet history. no, if anything what you're witnessing is an evaporative cooling effect where all the commenters you agree with have moved on to greener popcorn pastures and only the low hanging fruit addicted moths to the gender war flame are left.

[–]HelloFellowHumans 3 ポイント4 ポイント

If you don't see how "Don't have sex in college or even be around women because you will be falsely accused of rape" isn't worthy of mockery I really don't know what to tell you.

[–]judas_calrissian -1 ポイント0 ポイント

I agree, but this isn't /r/subredditmockery. I've tasted too much sour popcorn lately. Can we have some more /r/food drama?

[–]tightdickplayer 0 ポイント1 ポイント

go find some and post it

[–]thisbaseball17 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

I do see, because this isn't 'SubredditMockery' it's SubredditDRAMA

[–]turgid_wang 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Just like /r/tumblrinaction has a real boner for Men's Rights?

Bias is ok folks, but only if it fits my worldview.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Yeah, someone needs to do an analysis on this subreddit that accounts for the frequency of threads like these. I imagine most of the posters in this thread post to some variation of SRS, feminism, twoxchromosomes, circlebroke, or other "feminism/female perspective" subreddits. There's so much selection bias going on here it hurts.

[–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 12 ポイント13 ポイント

AMRsucks
atheism
FeMRADebates
FemraMeta
MensRights
OneY
philosophy
sjsucks
SRSsucks

Selection bias, you say? Reddit's an echo chamber for both sides of the debate. I entertain myself by watching /r/GirlGamers and /r/TumblrInAction hold directly opposite views of an issue.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Selection bias, you say?

Hey, I never claimed other subreddits didn't suffer the same fate. But everyone wants to pretend this one's neutral.

[–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Then I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else who whines about SRD being literally SRS or worse than Obama-Hitler or whatever:

Go to [sub of choice] and find some drama, then submit it. This isn't /r/blog; you don't have to be an approved submitter. It just needs to be drama.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Go to [sub of choice] and find some drama, then submit it.

Yes, that's a fair point. But here are some things you might think about in response: Why do threads about /r/mensrights tend to be posted so frequently here when posts about feminist subreddits do not? Why do posts submitted here about /r/mensrights blow up when threads about other subreddits do not? Why do posts about drama in /r/mensrights turn to circlejerking and generalizing the movement when posts about feminism do not?

Speaking of selection bias, when you posted the subreddits that I post in, you only included the ones that make your point. The full list includes

/r/againstmensrights, /r/badhistory, /r/twoxchromosomes, /r/GenderEgalitarian, and /r/gaybros, /r/changemyview, /r/tumblrinaction, /r/trollychromosomes, /r/lakers, and more. Maybe you could edit your post to include those subreddits as well?

[–]elizabethsparrow 1 ポイント2 ポイント

You would have loved us a year or so ago.

[–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I was using metareddit's data. I didn't really care to spend much time looking at someone's history.

As for the main part of your post, I know at least SRS does an excellent job of deleting buttery comments and banning the offenders. It is a little annoying that gender drama is so prevalent in this sub.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I was using metareddit's data.

What's that? I'm referring to this.

As for the main part of your post, I know at least SRS does an excellent job of deleting buttery comments and banning the offenders.

So I've seen. But that goes back to my point about selection bias. Somehow, because /r/mensrights stuff gets posted so frequently here, people have it in their minds that what one or two random people say on the internet represents a movement (or even what the vast majority of random people on the internet are saying).

It is a little annoying that gender drama is so prevalent in this sub.

Agreed.

[–]Tredoka 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Why do threads about /r/mensrights tend to be posted so frequently here

literally the first one in almost a week

[–]_jayjaybee_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Then find better content. I know that sounds snarky but honestly, if you want different content in the sub then find it yourself and submit it. There's a lot of people here who like to complain about how different SRD is from how it used to be and how it's overrun by "SJW" types but I rarely see those people submitting their own content.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 1 ポイント2 ポイント

That's fair. This is only like the third thread I've ever posted in on here. I don't come here much.

[–]MikoMido 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Why imagine when you're perfectly capable of testing that theory? I imagine you're a huge fan of both Nickelback and Kid Rock.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm more of an oldies person. But question: is it still in vogue to make fun of people who like Nickelback? I thought that was over.

My turn!

I imagine you like hardcore "bite a bird's head off" metal, consider yourself "very spiritual," and prefer TV shows where the leads are "strong female characters."

[–]Tredoka 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I imagine you like hardcore "bite a bird's head off" metal, consider yourself "very spiritual," and prefer TV shows where the leads are "strong female characters."

Wait how is this in anyway negative such as listening to nickelback

[–]MikoMido 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I don't know if it's still in fashion, but it's certainly an eternal litmus for quality.

In any case, my point went sailing over your head.

[–]ArstanWhitebeard -1 ポイント0 ポイント

I'm sure it did, Miko. I'm sure it did.

[–]rr159 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Every "meta" subreddit I know about is just a poorly disguised hate-boner towards another community.