(cache) Grundeswald secedes from the UIA : Civcraft

Grundeswald secedes from the UIA (self.Civcraft)

submitted 26 日前 by xpNcGrundeswald is best

It seemed like a great idea at the time. U3P wasn't for us so we teamed up with the FAGT. Our combined resources would give us an edge in our plan to unite the +,+ under our influence.

The UIA was supposed to be an equal partnership between Grundeswald and FAGT. Two nations. Two leaders. One state. That was the idea. What began as an equal partnership, however, quickly turned into the Greater FAGT featuring Grundeswald on drums. It began with the invitation of other members into the union. Surprising, perhaps, but we were informed, a discussion was had and there was a mutual agreement. The next time, though, there was no discussion. Centauri was in the UIA and that was that, no discussion. FAGT decided what was going to happen. Even coming up with the name was a struggle that pitted us against one-another, and the Grundeswegian voice was hardly heard. They constantly contradicted our position in foreign affairs, when we wanted to fight for something they would settle for less. We felt like a province in a larger, FAGT controlled country.

This union served no purpose other than painting more of the map green. Our defence pacts were useless, we couldn't readily defend FAGT territories and in turn they couldn't defend us. The distances were too much and after various terrorist attacks apathy swept through our ranks. The Grundeswegians stopped caring and many were on the verge of quitting. Discussions were had in regards to what happens next and ultimately it was decided that this was the best course of action.

We hope we can retain warm relations with FAGT. We just have no interest in being subservient to them.

Today, we are independent once more.

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[–]AggressiveMidgetUIA's Token Little Person (Formerly of the F.A.G.T.) 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 26 日前

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mfw this was not discussed at all and there's some serious inaccuracies in there.

Grundeswald was largely inactive, not to be confused with living under our shadow. When you sit on the game trying to fight people while we are trying to recruit and grow, you'll end up feeling that way. We tried to settle things non-violently with your issues with other nations where Grundeswalds first instinct was to have war, war, and more war. We had no "terrorist" attacks on us and you had one, to which I responded to immediately. If you're going to blindside me with this, at least tell it how it is.

Twice I have had to pay reps for Grundeswegian crimes to keep them out of pearls and neither times did you guys offer to step up and handle it. Greenkitten fucked up relations with potential candidates for UIA and Grundeswald in general has been a deterrent from the objections I hear yet I continued to defend you.

The name was originally decided with me and all of Grundeswald. Then it was changed in the same fashion. Grundeswald made the flag. kovio took a single step to recruit a group and never followed up, nor did he talk to us about it anymore than we discussed Centauri, or Equinox, or a colony over by Orion, or any other attempt to grow instead of going to war needlessly.

I deserved a heads up on this, Chris. You're in the fuckin Skype chat with everyone else too.

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mfw this was not discussed at all and there's some serious inaccuracies in there.

It was written on a whim and is from Chris' perspective.

Grundeswald was largely inactive, not to be confused with living under our shadow.

Politically inactive within the UIA, we were still playing doing our thing.

We tried to settle things non-violently with your issues with other nations where Grundeswalds first instinct was to have war, war, and more war.

I like to sort things out non-violently too, war is just a go to option that we blurt out instantly, then we rely on a voice of reason to find a better solution. Unfortunately FAGT stepped in and sorted these issues out for us and on a few occasions we did not agree with the way things panned out. This left some distaste in some members mouths, but rather than stepping on your toes we shut up on those issues lest we end up like other nations ruined by infighting.

We had no "terrorist" attacks on us and you had one, to which I responded to immediately.

We had several griefers wander by that we dealt with in our own way. The one you responded to "immediately" a day or so after it was first reported was one of the most damaging. I do admit that it was probably due to miscommunication and poor on the spot decisions that it ended up as such though.

As for the griefers that came across your paths there is a certain guilt that we could not get over to the FAGT territories to help defend.

Twice I have had to pay reps for Grundeswegian crimes to keep them out of pearls and neither times did you guys offer to step up and handle it.

We usually just ignore it.

Greenkitten fucked up relations with potential candidates for UIA

I fuck up relations all the time

kovio took a single step to recruit a group and never followed up, nor did he talk to us about it anymore than we discussed Centauri, or Equinox, or a colony over by Orion, or any other attempt to grow instead of going to war needlessly.

Chris is bitter no one talked to him personally about Centrauri, I doubt anyone else had objections to it. I personally find them quite nice, I recall I met one wandering around lost between brimstone and NL and helped him reach the town.