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[–]AggressiveMidgetUIA's Token Little Person (Formerly of the F.A.G.T.) 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Well, that came out of nowhere...

[–]tipperarytradLord_Pericorp | I joined to find Sanctaphrax... I'm still here 8 ポイント9 ポイント

At least it seems to have ended amicably.

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 14 ポイント15 ポイント

He left out the part where he didn't tell any of us.

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 20 ポイント21 ポイント

mfw this was not discussed at all and there's some serious inaccuracies in there.

Grundeswald was largely inactive, not to be confused with living under our shadow. When you sit on the game trying to fight people while we are trying to recruit and grow, you'll end up feeling that way. We tried to settle things non-violently with your issues with other nations where Grundeswalds first instinct was to have war, war, and more war. We had no "terrorist" attacks on us and you had one, to which I responded to immediately. If you're going to blindside me with this, at least tell it how it is.

Twice I have had to pay reps for Grundeswegian crimes to keep them out of pearls and neither times did you guys offer to step up and handle it. Greenkitten fucked up relations with potential candidates for UIA and Grundeswald in general has been a deterrent from the objections I hear yet I continued to defend you.

The name was originally decided with me and all of Grundeswald. Then it was changed in the same fashion. Grundeswald made the flag. kovio took a single step to recruit a group and never followed up, nor did he talk to us about it anymore than we discussed Centauri, or Equinox, or a colony over by Orion, or any other attempt to grow instead of going to war needlessly.

I deserved a heads up on this, Chris. You're in the fuckin Skype chat with everyone else too.

[–]xpNcGrundeswald is best[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Grundeswalds first instinct was to have war, war, and more war.

this is how we operate

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 16 ポイント17 ポイント

Yes, I know. So don't make it look like we were trying to fuck over your foreign policy when all you guys wanted to do was slap diamond swords at the first scent of a possibility of fulfilling your MDPs. That's how Grundeswald operates. Not UIA. You wanted to be one big state but did everything on your own anyway. The post should have just been "we want to do what we want like we have been anyway and FAGT isn't helping us beat up other pixels so bye UIA."

[–]ShockScapesBack to back Civcraft World War Champ 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Yo who were the grundies trying to declare war on?

[–]llShadyGuyllRyden's Right Hand - ew 11 ポイント12 ポイント

Fellowship.

[–]MulificusImpromptu Chair of the NEA 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Which would result in most of the NEA and allies of backing fellowship... Generally bad situation for everyone.

[–]SwaghandsThird Founder of Aeon and Slippery Person || Sarin 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I could press for Aeonic support!

[–]MulificusImpromptu Chair of the NEA 1 ポイント2 ポイント

No no, we solved it peacefully a while ago! But thanks for the offer, we appreciate the support.

[–]NeoncoffeeϟEmperor of the RSEϟ|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No let the stick war evolve naturally

[–]SwaghandsThird Founder of Aeon and Slippery Person || Sarin 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Waiting around for something to happen is a good way to get yourself put in a WB vault, I'm afraid. A shame so many people on the server look down on direct action.

[–]NeoncoffeeϟEmperor of the RSEϟ|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

How so? Its a conflict neither of us are involved in, and is likely to never actually surface. If that was intended as a threat, you did a poor job conveying it.

[–]The_Jakebobpretentious punk - practicing anarcho-capitalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント

i am prepared

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Most of it was private discussion and will stay that way. The only one that actually reached public eye was with Fellowship when they tried to claim Grundeswald land that was long known to belong to Grundeswald. In the end, I supported doing what was necessary to protect their land as it was ours as well, being UIA. Luckily, it never resorted to any physical conflict since an agreement was made to the satisfaction of both parties.

[–]sashimiiKing of CW | pls vote kathleen wynne's olp ty 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Son I am the most proud of your peaceful ways.

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 12 ポイント13 ポイント

Dad I am the most proud of the values you taught me before you left me and mom.

[–]Dr_OracleNDZHL > comped war league 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I'm not; less drama.

[–]sashimiiKing of CW | pls vote kathleen wynne's olp ty 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The mark of successful statesmanship!

[–]Greenkitten1488Grundescorp's Chief Diversity Officer| aka greenshitten 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Someone would post something from the subreddit and we'd just say its time to go to war. Someone took screenshots of NDZ, time for war. AFlatCap posts another of his shitty holiday things, time for war. And so on.

The only real one that we were passionate about was war with Fellowship when they tried to claim Salisbury as their own.

[–]Celoxia 0 ポイント1 ポイント

War you would ultimately lose. Great leadership.

[–]Perdikkas 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Just because you're probably going to lose doesn't mean you shouldn't fight.

[–]ShockScapesBack to back Civcraft World War Champ 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Fight me irl

[–]Multiplayepalms sweaty knees weak arms are heavy 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Where is the face

[–]Impeded_Republiclives in carbon | IGN: Dysprosody 2 ポイント3 ポイント

probably this one

[–]RydenLolDicktater of UIA - "Privileged Neckbeard" -LSIF 2 ポイント3 ポイント

That works perfectly.

[–]Greenkitten1488Grundescorp's Chief Diversity Officer| aka greenshitten 2 ポイント3 ポイント

mfw this was not discussed at all and there's some serious inaccuracies in there.

It was written on a whim and is from Chris' perspective.

Grundeswald was largely inactive, not to be confused with living under our shadow.

Politically inactive within the UIA, we were still playing doing our thing.

We tried to settle things non-violently with your issues with other nations where Grundeswalds first instinct was to have war, war, and more war.

I like to sort things out non-violently too, war is just a go to option that we blurt out instantly, then we rely on a voice of reason to find a better solution. Unfortunately FAGT stepped in and sorted these issues out for us and on a few occasions we did not agree with the way things panned out. This left some distaste in some members mouths, but rather than stepping on your toes we shut up on those issues lest we end up like other nations ruined by infighting.

We had no "terrorist" attacks on us and you had one, to which I responded to immediately.

We had several griefers wander by that we dealt with in our own way. The one you responded to "immediately" a day or so after it was first reported was one of the most damaging. I do admit that it was probably due to miscommunication and poor on the spot decisions that it ended up as such though.

As for the griefers that came across your paths there is a certain guilt that we could not get over to the FAGT territories to help defend.

Twice I have had to pay reps for Grundeswegian crimes to keep them out of pearls and neither times did you guys offer to step up and handle it.

We usually just ignore it.

Greenkitten fucked up relations with potential candidates for UIA

I fuck up relations all the time

kovio took a single step to recruit a group and never followed up, nor did he talk to us about it anymore than we discussed Centauri, or Equinox, or a colony over by Orion, or any other attempt to grow instead of going to war needlessly.

Chris is bitter no one talked to him personally about Centrauri, I doubt anyone else had objections to it. I personally find them quite nice, I recall I met one wandering around lost between brimstone and NL and helped him reach the town.

I deserved a heads up on this, Chris.

I agree we should have gone through this with you. Hindsight is 20/20. All we can ask is to be forgiven and continue being friends.

[–]bort-thrillho 2 ポイント3 ポイント

It's just like Scotland and England in the act of union...

[–]ToastedspikesDirty Feminazi|LSIF Privilege Police|Will Do Puff For Pink Wool 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Except Scotland was sort of forced to join as they owed tons of debts to England.

[–]bort-thrillho 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Lol. Is that the summary from the Reddit Book of Abridged History? It was a tad more complicated

[–]ToastedspikesDirty Feminazi|LSIF Privilege Police|Will Do Puff For Pink Wool 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Aye.

[–]Xenu_RulerofUniverseNo Gods or Kings. Only Man 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I'll have to call Putin I guess.

[–]AvalokitesvaraMC 9 ポイント10 ポイント

If you need a printing press to print all the yes ballots for a referendum, let me know.

[–]BolleDeBollGlorious Leader of the New Leningrad State 0 ポイント1 ポイント

No need to print those Comrade. Looks at the archiefs

[–]quicksilver991l33t subreddit PVP'er 1 ポイント2 ポイント

My life for Ronald!

[–]grenadeninja[🍰] 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Of the things I expected to hear today, this wasn't on the top of the list.

I wish the best to Grundeswald. And while I'm sure you have your reasons for not wanting to join the U3P, we'll always be around.

[–]Slntskr 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Quite a surprise to hear for an outsider like me. Nice to hear it put politely though.

[–]kk-R3KoN | Hounty Bunter 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Declare a farley-war.

[–]xpNcGrundeswald is best[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント

no

[–]kk-R3KoN | Hounty Bunter 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Why not? I'll help. I like farley-war.

[–]hedleyazgmeowcoolcat - fell in a hole 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Bye bye.

[–]thiececLurker, Developer 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Best of luck in future, and congratulations on your independence.

[–]RedW00LXiphias Paper™ IGN: Joesiv2000 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Not independence, succession.

[–]Darkflame826Founder of Little Latvia 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Not succession, secession.

[–]thiececLurker, Developer 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Today, we are independent once more.

[–]RedW00LXiphias Paper™ IGN: Joesiv2000 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Technically they succeeded from UIA though

[–]AggressiveMidgetUIA's Token Little Person (Formerly of the F.A.G.T.) 0 ポイント1 ポイント

seceeded

[–]thiececLurker, Developer -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Which also means they are now independent. The two ways of wording it are not mutually exclusive.

[–]TheNintechnoChina makes best sla- highly paid workers -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Wait does this mean Grundeswald is now officially the NIGR again.... Well shit.