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By Sgt. Olivia Betchson on

In the likely event your internet hasn’t been out for the past weeks, you’re at least vaguely aware of the #YesAllWomen movement (can I say “movement,” or is it just a hashtag?) that’s going on.

But ICYMI (and because I’m feeling nice today), here’s a brief, brief rundown. In light of recent horrific events in Santa Barbara, which were at least partly motivated by the shooter’s apparent hatred towards women (he literally wrote in his manifesto that he suffered through life “all because the females of the human species were incapable of seeing the value in me.”) Talk about putting the pussy on a pedestal, damn. Needless to say, people (yes, a lot of women) were outraged, and started the hashtag #YesAllWomen to point out commonplace acts of violence, aggression, and just overall hatred against women.

Like for instance, guys, how many times have you walked by a bus stop and been asked, “Hey! HEY! Are you single? ARE YOU SINGLE?!” as if fast-forward 10 years from now you’re going to be saying to your kids, “Well kids, your mom and I met because I was walking by the bus stop, minding my own business, and…well, it was just love at first holla.” Oh, never? That’s never happened to you? That literally happened to me three days ago. See? See the value in this? We’re all learning here.

Right?

Ehhh, not so right. You’re forgetting we  live in a world where you can’t start a hashtag without a ton of people getting personally offended, like your Twitter post is directed at them specifically. Take, for example, #WhitePeopleEquivalents. I’m not going to take the time to explain that to you, but they have this great thing called the Google so you can look it up.

A lot of guys took to Twitter to defend themselves because they felt personally victimized by Regina George and #YesAllWomen. So I present to you, the Top 6 Arguments Against #YesAllWomen (And Misogyny in General) And Why They’re Bullshit.

1.  “Not all men are like this” aka #NotAllMen

Yes, we know. We know not all men are like this, and no one is saying they are. Last time I checked (which was literally 12 seconds ago), the hashtag was called #YesAllWomen [have experienced some type of aggression], not #YesAllMen [are terrible rapist-murderers]. Why are some men taking this hashtag so personally? Yeah maybe you’ve never cat-called a woman (or done something way worse)—a majority of you haven’t, and that’s a good thing!—but that still doesn’t change the fact that somebody, at some point, did. Some asshole ruined it for you, but maybe take it up with him instead of getting mad at the ladies for pointing out the facts. Sorry Shaggy, but the “it wasn’t me” excuse isn’t helping anyone here.

2.  “At least women can walk down the street at night and no one will cross to the other side because they’re afraid of you solely because you’re a man.”

Oh, I’m sorry that your feelings potentially being hurt that someone would have the audacity to cross the street is a bigger issue than my personal safety. Again, it’s not a personal thing and you’re probably a very nice guy who treats his mother very well but as a stranger, I have literally zero way of knowing that whatsoever. So again sorry that we can’t be sidewalk buddies and that you’re mad bro, but here’s my personal motto: better safe than sorry, and better paranoid than dead.

3. “Yeah, but men get raped/are the victims of violence/ deal with shitty things too.”

That’s totally right, which is why the hashtag is #YesAllWomen, as opposed to #YesAllWomenAndNotAnyManEverInHistory. No one’s saying things that happen to women never happen to men, just that THEY HAPPEN TO WOMEN. Just because you admit that women are abused doesn’t make all the men who’ve been abused just magically go away. Like why can’t we acknowledge that it happens to women? Can we take this one step at a time? Why is this turning into this thing we have to constantly one-up each other on? People are reading so far into this that they can’t see the point, which is literally expressed in three words: Yes. All. Women.  All the over-analyzing is making my head spin tbh.  I’m not trying to trivialize any violence against men but straight up, that’s not the focus of this hashtag atm. Definitely, we should bring issues men face to light. But maybe not in this specific hashtag. But by all means, start your own! It’s a free internet!

4. “Yeah but women are well-represented on TV, unlike men, where we’re all portrayed as bumbling idiots who can’t do anything right.”

This statement is totally true, if you literally only watch cartoons that air on Fox and Kevin James comedies. Just because Peter Griffin, Stan Smith, and Homer Simpson are less-than-perfect, do you really think it’s fair to say that ALL  men are poorly represented in the media and ALL women are portrayed in a positive light? Nice fucking try. Any further questions can kindly be directed to Meg Griffin, literally every character on Girls, and Monica Lewinsky.

5. “Well, men are told to ‘man up’ all the time and we’re not allowed to be vulnerable or else we get called pussies.”

And women are told to “just get over it” all the time and we’re not allowed to show emotion or else we get called crazy, psycho bitches. Gender stereotypes suck on both ends! At least there’s equality in that, right?

6. “At least women can have drunk sex with someone without being automatically sent to jail for rape.”

Okay, what fucking world do you live in? Have you ever turned on the news, or even an episode of SVU? If you did, you’d know that a majority of rapes don’t get reported in the first place and even for the ones that do, a rapist does not get convicted 100% of the time, not even close (because someone in the comments section is going to ask, source). I honestly don’t know what fantasy world you’re living in when you think you can have tipsy consensual sex with a girl and the next day she’ll just “decide”—prob because she was PMS-ing or something, women, amirite fellas?!—to accuse you of rape, and then BOOM your life is over, welcome to County. C’mon, I know it hasn’t been that long since Steubenville, surely you haven’t forgotten how a lot of these scenarios go down?!

In short, sexism is definitely a real thing that happens, whether you want to admit it or not. For instance, I was inadvertently sexist yesterday when I needed to borrow a drill (and before you ask, no, it was not for a sex thing) and it was only before I asked all my guy friends if they had one before I turned to a female friend (she had a drill btw—girl power ftw). 

Yes it’s uncomfortable confronting your privilege—that’s honestly the point; no one ever got anywhere by being complacent. So keep that in mind when you log on Twitter in about 35 seconds and notice that #YesAllWhiteWomen is trending.

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  1. Michaela says:

    PREACH BETCHES PREACH

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  2. Your Name says:

    Thank you for posting this Betches <3

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  3. Wow says:

    you are actually incredible.

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  4. YAAASSS says:

    LOVING the intelligent posts lately betches! KEEP IT UP! Down with anti-intellectualism

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  5. Miss Wieners says:

    We should totally just STAB CAESAR!

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  6. Lex says:

    Love this website and I am so so happy the betches wrote about an issue that faces all women and all betches.

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  7. Your Name says:

    if you’re interested in this, you should definitely read Everyday Sexism by Laura Bates - literally cannot recommend it enough

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  8. Moral of the story says:

    So many bros were obvi gonna see this hashtag and immediately sport a pouty face followed by a “yea but..” Not the point, fellas!

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  9. Your Name says:

    Thank you. Just, thank you. I wish this would be the end of the matter instead of - inevitably - idiots starting to blah.

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  10. King B says:

    Okay not to be a total bitch (just a tiny one), I want to say I agree with everything that is said except for a few points (that was PC right?).
    First off, a guy coming to you at a bus stop asking you if you are single is NOT an aggression. A problem with our generation is that so many of us are not used to meeting someone serendipitously, unless it’s on Tinder or Hinge. Yeah some people are clumsy, idiotic, and have poor social skills, them coming up to you, showing interest and ASKING (meaning they’re asking for YOUR permission) for your name, number, single status is not necessarily cause for alarm. I don’t know about you but isn’t it better to have someone use words, and ask you how you feel, then come up behind you and start grinding without ever seeing your face (now that’s an aggression).
    So many times in the subway, when I saw someone I was certain was my one true love, I wished I had the balls of that hypothetical bus stop accoster and said something, as opposed to crying about it later and going on to missed connections.
    I’m just on the team of more talking to one another, in fact I ENCOURAGE women to be more proactive, go up to guys you like or find cute and ask them if they’re single. When we don’t communicate with one another, we continue to seclude ourselves in a sphere of paranoia where this guy smiling at you is potentially a serial killer.
    For the rest of the article I am saying Preach all the way.

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    • no says:

      just no. Just because they are using WORDS doesn’t mean they have the right to harass me about my relationship status. There is a difference between asking and shouting at you. Nice try. Im with the betches all the way on this one.

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      • Yes says:

        If I had a nickel for every time words were used to harass someone… Women and men combined. Grow a thicker skin, you like in the real world, people will be rude to you verbally and they actually have that right because we have freedom.

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        • ?? says:

          Grow a thicker skin??? You are part of the problem.See #5.

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      • Elaborate? says:

        I wish anyone could elaborate more on this position if not ‘no’. I think ‘King B’ raised a valid point that we do not have enough contact with the opposite sex and enhance paranoia on both ends. I think there is an agreement between ‘no’ and ‘King B’ that asking and shouting are different scenarios. The scenario described by OP was a bit more harassment certainly than a simple ‘Hi there. Do you happen to have a boyfriend?’ or even some pickup lines. I find some endearing and others creepy.

        I think ‘King B’ is advocating for more communication about what generally constitutes being creepy to avoid both having scenarios on the border of harassment and to actually communicate just as normal people do.  That sexual urges motivate a conversation does not necessarily incite impulsive or inappropriate behavior; conveying interest is not a problem. I think ‘King B’ is suggesting that being closed off to communication because of some failures of it is unproductive. Instead if a guy tells me something bordering on inappropriate I let him know without ignoring him. We don’t have an obligation to give out our phone numbers. I think the problem ‘King B’ highlights is that too often we think they expect us to.

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    • Gee says:

      I see your point, and I wouldn’t say someone asking your relationship status is harassment (if they’re yelling, then the line’s much thinner), but it is still rude. Take your subway dreamguy: would you have run up next to him and been like ‘you single? If you’re single, let’s go.’ I hope you wouldn’t, you’d walk up to that guy, blow his socks off with a great, honest compliment, and show him through chatting that you two are amazing and gotta give things a go.
      I wouldn’t want a stranger knowing my name, age, weight, or availability, chat to me first as if we’re as good together as you think we’d be, I’m sure I’d be more than wiling to tell you all 3 (and white-lie about weight ;p).

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    • Your Name says:

      Yes, thank you. So many people, especially younger generations being raised on the internet, are losing the ability to actually communicate in face to face interaction. A total stranger talking to you is only seen as creepy because this is, sadly, the world many of us are growing up in, to be taught to be wary of strangers. You know what, a lot of people just want to be friends or aren’t on dating website (gasp), and they may, as you say, be ‘clumsy, idiotic, and have poor social skills’, but saying hey, you’re cute, are you single.. You know what, I only WISH a guy had the balls to ask me that. And I only WISH I had the confidence to do the same. But people are becoming so afraid of getting into a spat under the assumption that the person of the opposite sex will report you for just trying to be complimentary. It’s an innocent inquiry, and only construed as harassment if your mindset is already brainwashed into that pattern of negativity.

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    • Em says:

      Sure, people can ask you if they’re single. Ask, not yell at you or catcall or whistle or whatever. The problem is that as soon as you say yes you are single, some people take that as an automatic assumption that you must also be interested in them/feel they have the right to hit on you. I’ve seen a lot of interesting articles floating around lately that say women shouldn’t have to pretend they have a boyfriend in order to avoid getting hit on (some arguments take it further and say that some men only seem to respect boyfriends as a ‘no’ because they’d be disrespecting another guy by hitting on you - I don’t necessarily agree with that). Long story short, it might not be an aggression to talk to people but that doesn’t mean hitting on them is welcomed.

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  11. Fem Betch says:

    This was literally the best post I’ve seen in a while. Good work betches.

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  12. AMEN says:

    BEST article ive ever read on this website, and i love all the articles.

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  13. stannygrl says:

    This article was amazing. Loving the posts lately betches.

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  14. Your Name says:

    i find it obnoxious the lena dunham is using the ucsb tragedy to draw attention to herself.

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  15. spc015 says:

    my love for this website just went through the roof

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  16. 111 says:

    Your argument for why “not all men” makes no sense is disposable. I quote, “Yeah maybe you’ve never cat-called a woman (or done something way worse)—a majority of you haven’t, and that’s a good thing!—but that still doesn’t change the fact that somebody, at some point, did. Some asshole ruined it for you, but maybe take it up with him instead of getting mad at the ladies for pointing out the facts. Sorry Shaggy, but the “it wasn’t me” excuse isn’t helping anyone here.”

    Wow, so I guess nowadays the actions of a few can be held against entire groups and this is called “intellectual”? I don’t think so.

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    • ??? at 111 says:

      As a man I would agree with this point except for the fact that it ignores that we aren’t addressing the woman here. Our gender is the problem, and the fact that people like you continue to dispute the decision of a woman not to trust a male stranger is ludicrous. Sure, it may be a small portion of the population that actually commits these atrocities, but they are committed often enough for EVERY WOMAN to have had a large collection unpleasant, demeaning memories. This is not the woman’s fault. This is the man’s fault. You can’t accuse women of being illogical or at fault for not trusting a stranger of the gender, OUR gender, that routinely has crossed the line within their lifetimes. Sure, most guys aren’t like that, but the fact that this has happened to every woman is something that needs to be taken into consideration. In this way, these are not “the actions of a few”, this is our own gender as a whole, and we need to improve not by victim blaming but by calling out our friends whenever they objectify or harass a fellow human being.

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      • 808 says:

        The male gender is not the problem, a small proportion of the male gender who act did respectively towards women is the problem. I also disagree that EVERY woman has had these unpleasant experiences in multitude; also, if simply being flirted with on the street now goes for disrespect people need to grow up (this was stated earlier in the comments)

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        • Nope says:

          “I also disagree that EVERY woman has had these unpleasant experiences in multitude; also, if simply being flirted with on the street now goes for disrespect people need to grow up.”

          I’m going to burst whatever bubble you’re living in and inform you that this actually does happen to every woman. In multitude. Every time we walk out of the house. It doesn’t matter if you wear sweat pants and a parka or heels and a mini skirt. It happens and it’s disrespectful.

          As for the “flirting” comment… Yelling at women on the street is NOT flirting and I’m so sorry to hear that you think it is. If you’ve been using this as a flirting tactic, please stop immediately. It’s harassment and it’s uncomfortable and annoying.

          ...to ??? who commented above you - thank you, you nailed it!!

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        • Your Name says:

          You can disagree all you want with the fact that EVERY woman has experienced aggression from men, but you are dead fucking wrong. Ask every girl you know if she has experienced a very negative, unwarranted action from a man, and she will tell you yes. I know your tiny brain probably thinks that not every girl is “hot enough” to get cat called or assaulted or whatever, but it has nothing to do with how attractive a woman is. It’s about power, lack of respect, and entitlement that men have to women’s bodies. You are seriously part of the problem. Stop fucking whining about how you’ve never done any of these things and it’s only a small portion of the male population (which is bullshit, by the way. How can is be so small is the female experience is so universal? ). Try listening for once. It’s not about you. And if you see this shit going on, say something instead of looking down at your phone (the common response I get when being harassed on a daily basis). If you actually partake in this disgusting behavior, you need to check your fucking self or see a therapist.

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        • Are you kidding?!? says:

          I live in nyc and at least once a day—no matter what I’m wearing, be it gross sweats, gym clothes, office attire or a club dress—I get harassed/cat-called/hollared at. No, it is not “flirting” when you’re screaming out a window about my ass, tits or any other feature of mine.

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    • bear with me but... says:

      Here’s an imperfect analogy that works better than anything else I’ve heard in describing the “not all men” thing. When the Nazis were first given power in Germany, there were tiny little flashes and rumbles that made some people go “hmm, this is slightly not ok” but, in general, nobody really did anything because Hitler was leading the country to an incredible economic and cultural recovery after years of shit. So then, later, when they started making anti-Jew and anti-minority laws, and then again when they started rounding people up, and on and on and on and nobody really said or did much of anything. “It was too subtle/innocuous/inconspicuous” they said at the beginning, and then claimed they were too scared. Now, there were also Germans who actively supported the Nazis and Germans who actively fought the Nazis. However, the overwhelming majority of the population was the first type. And when Germany got shat on in the post-WWII global power plays and when Germans became the villains in the social world, there was a HUGE outcry from that silent majority, “we’re not all Nazis, it wasn’t our fault.” Sorry silent majority, but the only people within Germany who had the right to complain were the people who were vocal opponents and the people who were victimized. And that was the global response, and that was the right response, and that’s where this ties in.
      Men cannot be as easily sorted into categories in regards to women’s issues. However, for the sake of the point, we’re lumping the smaller groups into their logical “umbrella” groups - those who rape and abuse and mistreat and disrespect women, those who actively support women, and those who observe. The “not all men” people, the silent majority, are the Germans. They’re watching the “Nazi” group of men committing inexcusable widespread violence and terror against women and are making excuses for why they’re not doing anything. They act like they deserve some sort of praise for being part of the “not all men” who aren’t taking advantage of the system that makes the “Nazi” group feel empowered to act this way - that pretty much does empower them to act this way. Sure, it’s awesome that you’re not the literal scum of the earth, but you’re not a hero, you’re practically eliminating yourself from being called a good person.

      TL;DR summary - When the most involvement you have in a humanitarian conflict is your incessant cries of “I knew it was happening and I did absolutely nothing, I’m not one of those bad guys,” AKA “not all men,” you’re part of the problem. Either step up to the plate and swing or live with the fact that you’re letting evil scumbags give your whole population a bad name.

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      • Gee says:

        Well written and thought out. As it’s said: if you aren’t part of the solution, you ARE part of the problem. Participate, stand up or back down, pick your position and deal with the mayhem.

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    • Gee says:

      This is how the world works… We learn through our histories. One berry killed caveman, best not risk it with any others and stick to something trustworthy.
      A few guys slip through security at the airport, and now we all get frisked. Humans are cautious, we aren’t killers or great hunters, we got where we are by playing it safe.
      *Psychologist rant over*

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    • Your Name says:

      No one is blaming all men for the actions of the men that actually are the problem. Obviously we know that not every single man is a rapist. The hashtag isn’t about men who aren’t the problem, it’s about men who are….

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    • 222 says:

      Well yeah. If some men (and even women) have been threatening to women, we’re going to naturally distrust strangers. It’s nothing personal, and it’s not stereotyping just for the sake of doing so. It’s self-protection in its most passive-aggresive sense.

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  17. Basic statistics says:

    Well actually the actions of a few can definitely be held against entire groups if those few cause significant physical and emotional harm to another large group… It’s called statistics.

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    • Realist says:

      You’re right, just like you can say all Muslims were at fault for the radical actions of a few.

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      • Not rly says:

        The point is we aren’t talking about all of the Muslims, or in this case the men—your scenario would be like saying “yes all Americans” felt victimized by 9/11. Doesn’t mean all Muslims are at fault, just means a certain act(s) affected a group as a whole.

        In any case- the guy at fault was a complete lunatic and I’m sure most men and women alike can agree on that.

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      • /Better/Realist says:

        No, it’s simply not trusting strangers because you never know who will end up being fucking psycho. It’s not prejudice at all.

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  18. A says:

    This is so great. Love it.

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  19. Your Name says:

    i hate how feminists always have this victim mentality.  they’re just so negative and whiny all the time.  having a negative attitude can just become a self-fulfilling prophecy.  feminism is passe.  let’s stop complaining and just be positive.

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    • kate says:

      omg you are so right, I can’t go for runs at night in a nice neighborhood without fearing rape or to a party at my college without watching my drink, I am so whiny and am totally playing the victim. as long as women are not free to walk where they want without fear or cannot expect to be paid the same as a man, feminism is necessary.

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    • Your Name says:

      It’s super easy to say “let’s stop complaining” when you are wrapped up in your own privilege enough to not have anything to complain about. Yes, this is an uncomfortable conversation and that is precisely why it’s so important. When you say things like “stop complaining” and “just be positive” what you’re saying is you’re more comfortable with the status quo. Well guess what? I’m not and neither are a lot of people so tough shit. Things are changing and there’s nothing you can do to stop it.

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    • Not really says:

      There’s a difference between having a victim mentality, and wanting to be safe. I’d much rather be careful and paranoid than end up roofied or dead. Feminism is about achieving equality. The bitching is just a side effect.

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    • LizzyBennet says:

      First of all: nothing presented in this post is groundbreaking, and it is not particularly “feminist”, or more intellectually engaging than the material typically found on this site. Maybe without intent, but the Betches are almost always presenting women with an ideal female narrative that simultaneously manipulates and rejects the expectations set by men, of our sex, in a way that leaves women with the best of both worlds: e.g.: accepting dinner and denying sex. We exert our own sexual autonomy with no regard for man’s silly presumption that we would want to engage in coitus with you. If we wanted to, we would, with or without dinner because we DGAF.

      More importantly though, this article doesn’t even skim the surface in terms of explaining why the “not all men are like this” objection is bogus. The issue is not simply aggression in a conscious way, it is the passively aggressive, culturally engrained ways that men project images of inferiority onto women, intended to control and manipulate them. From the disproportionate terms of endearment spoken to women, to the customs like holding a door open which can only be internalized, time and time again, to result in a self-image riddled with dependency. Men not only perpetrate the violent and sexually exploitative acts upon women, but they invent the standards that case shame on these victims, and perpetuate the taboos that keep these women in hiding…

      Unless the women don’t hide. Unless women STOP internalizing these patriarchal projections. Unless women stop believing in their dependency and start believing that they write the story, that they define which of their circumstances are obstacles and which are blessings, and that they define which of their myriad remarkable qualities gives them value and makes them who they are. We must, too, confront our negligence of the liberties that no man can take from us.

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    • I agree says:

      Feminists’ general whiney demeanor deducts from REAL issues like this one, and really has earned them a “boy who cried wolf” title. Nowadays they throw the term “rape culture” around on a whim; and as a girl I am sick of that crap. Be an adult, learn to identify what’s a threat and what’s not.

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    • LOL says:

      yeah, okay admitting reality is not the same as having a “victim mentality”.
      the same goes for race - people are so quick to use the whole “we can’t move on if we focus on the past” schtick, but if you literally deny history AND present reality then how can you confront problems in a meaningful way?
      you know what’s passe? pretending that we live in a society devoid of sexism. denying the fact that women know a different reality than men. minimizing the experiences of women who have been hurt by the various manifestations of patriarchy, whether they be microaggressions, assault, honor killings, or anything in between.

      ...or we could just look on the bright side, brah.

       

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  20. BobbyJ says:

    “n the likely event your internet hasn’t been out for the past weeks, you’re at least vaguely aware of the #YesAllWomen movement” Nope never…

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  21. #nomoreliterally says:

    Can you please stop using the word “literally” so much?! I got too annoyed to count after seeing “literally” 5 times in this article.

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  22. Latina Betch says:

    You can go shave your back now #NotAllMen

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  23. SAN527 says:

    I’d like to point our the shooter was severely emotionally disturbed. He was diagnosed with a debilitating array of psychological issues that fueled his delisions about women. To simply white wash this event as an attack on all women everywhere is overlooking a huge gap in our healthcare system.  I can’t even. Feminists are fucking stupid go shave your legs, you look like a cave woman.

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  24. imaguy says:

    what about the football prospect who some betch in his highschool said raped her and he lost his chance to be a superstar and went to jail

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  25. Fucking duh says:

    Feminism=betchism, right? Love it.

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  26. TheAlphaBitch says:

    “Yeah maybe you’ve never cat-called a woman (or done something way worse)—a majority of you haven’t”

    Bull shit. Majority of heterosexual men and boys absolutely have. I remember as a 14 year old having 8 and 9 year old neighbor boys behaving like pigs because I had tits.

    This is exactly why men are so offended, because they know damn well that they have behaved in an unacceptable manner, probably still do so, and most certainly think about doing it on a daily fucking basis.

    Sure, at 35 when you have a corporate job, when you get the urge to slap the ass of the woman standing in front of you on the subway, you might not act on it because you have learned that there are repercussions and it is better to just stroke your dick in private—but as a teenager, a 20-something, or an adult male who never really grew up—they DO act on it, all the fucking time.

    Also, to the moron who thinks a man asking “are you single” is harassment: you deserve to be not harassed, but assaulted, by a fist in your face. “Are you single, would you like to go on a date with me” is not harassment. “You would look good on your knees sucking my cock” IS. Learn the difference, because it is whiny people like you who give men the leeway to complain about feminism and claim that women over-react and are hyper-sensitive.

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  27. Your Name says:

    For this to be more effective messaging, women need to find a way to convey that we’re not angry with all men. If most guys start tuning out all feminism because all they hear is “help help the patriarchy is oppressing me!” then they won’t be effective partners in helping to end the small but horrific subculture of rape and abuse.

    Maybe we should start cheering on the guys who behave like good men.

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  28. Not a gender issue says:

    What I find frustrating about these debates is that so many of these issues aren’t actually gender issues at all. They get jumped on by ideologues, and I think that’s what is happening here.

    Domestic abuse, violence, even rape - there are huge numbers of male victims who are completely ignored because these issues are cast as women’s issues, when they aren’t - they’re issues with poverty, crime, education, and they have complex roots and can’t often be attributed to a single societal group, like a gender. Often they’re related to power imbalances, and as men tend to be on the more powerful side physically that tilts the stats against women. But it doesn’t mean the solutions or the causes of the issues revolve around gender.

    I was unfortunate enough to witness by father being assaulted and sexually assaulted at knife point by his girlfriend when I was a teenager. You know how many resources there were for him and I? Absolutely none. There were a ton of shelters and phone services for female abuse victims. What did my father’s gender have to do with his situation? Nothing. Gender wasn’t the relevant factor.

    The problem with casting these issues as gender oriented is that you alienate huge numbers of people by doing so and you make it competitive. It may be cathartic if you’ve been harassed or assaulted by someone of the opposite gender, especially if you feel like you’ve had multiple problems in your relationships with people of the opposite sex. But it isn’t productive. We’re all on the same side here, and casting these issues as gender oriented makes them competitive, hostile, and holds back real progress.

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  29. cnderellabetch says:

    This is a good article, but please never use the phrase “confront your privilege” again. This isn’t fucking Tumblr.

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