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Are places like /r/gonewild anti-feminist? (self.TwoXChromosomes)

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[–]sac66064 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Have you ever even been to GW before? I don't think you have since you seem to think that the comments posted on GW are misogynistic. The comments posted on GW are almost the polar opposite of misogynistic. Go there and check the comments of any random posting by a female. I encourage other women to do this as well. You'll find nothing but men who are heaping praise onto the women who post. Calling them beautiful, stunning, wife material, the stuff of their dreams, asking them to be their GFs. I understand that it takes a certain type of personality to post naked pictures of yourself but the response from the guys is so overwhelmingly positive that it doesn't surprise me that a lot of the same girls will post over and over again. Everyone likes to be told that they are attractive and desirable, and that is the only thing the guys say.

[–]CorrallingCats 8 ポイント9 ポイント

A woman who posts on GW regularly recently posted a question. It was something like "would you guys seriously date a woman who posted on GW." The vast majority of them said "honestly, no." I think that says a lot, and it kind of shocked me. The men who are giving these woman praise and saying they are "wife material" because they show their butthole admit that they would be uncomfortable with their wife/girlfriend doing it. Not all, but most seem to just be thinking of them as sexual objects and not as people.

[–]sac66064 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Well, I think thats really sad. I definitely would date a girl who posted on GW. I wouldn't want her to do it anymore after we started dating but what she did before we got together is her own business. I think I might be different than a lot of guys in that regard though because I also couldn't care how many partners my GF had had before we got together, as long as she doesn't have a disease obviously. From what I have gathered I am in the small minority about not caring about this particular aspect. As a matter of fact, I am more against the double standard when it comes to sex than most girls are. I hate that double standard soooooo much. When it affects me as a guy, you know its a completely asinine line of thought.

[–]gopher_glitz -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

I think it depends on the individual. I'd gather many females on gonewild seek constant validation to shore up their insecurities. Even with a SO that tells her how much he loves/adores her and how sexy he thinks she is, it may not be enough and she'll seek validation from other men constantly undermining the sexual exclusiveness of their bond.

[–]CorrallingCats 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I agree. I think some people post pictures because they are exhibitionists and it turns them on. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I think there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable with themselves and do it as a way of "fishing for compliments." Mostly I just feel sad for those people. I think sexuality is and should be a big part of people's lives, but I don't think it should be your only 'hobby' or your only way of finding worth in yourself.

[–]sac66064 9 ポイント10 ポイント

I might add that I think that GW is a healthy outlet for both sexes. For women, it allows them to express some of the more sexually explicit fantasies they have in a safe environment. No one knows who you are if you choose to obscure your face, and allows you to express sexuality without the back of your mind fear that someone will try to take advantage of you. Or slut shame you. Or any other myriad of bad things. For guys, it allows those poor horny guys who are less than successful with women a chance to interact with a woman who they desire without coming off as a creep. They can message her or leave comments and the woman can choose to respond if she wishes. For many guys, having a woman communicate with you in a meaningful way that you have seen naked is something that many of these guys have never experienced before. I would think that GW is for many men the next best thing to having an IRL girlfriend. I think GW is a win-win situation. It allows women the chance to express their sexual fantasies and desires in a safe environment and for men a meaningful way to express desire without the immediate "creep" factor that happens frequently IRL.

[–]BlackCaaaaat 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I think you've hit the nail on the head here - in this sense, GW subs are a safe place - a woman can explore her sexuality while removed enough from the viewers that she can protect herself. When she starts feeling uncomfortable in any way, she can stop posting and/or delete her account (I get the feeling that some girls post to GW under alt accounts for this reason).

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon -1 ポイント0 ポイント

polar opposite of misogynistic....Calling them beautiful, stunning, wife material,

A guy calls a woman wife material based on nothing more then a picture of her boobs (not even her face!), and you call that polar opposite of misogynistic?!

A cursory look at my post history reveals me to be a TRPer, but come on. Judging a woman fit for a lifelong commitment based on the appearance of her breasts, and nothing else whatsoever, is misogynistic as fuck.

[–]iamalwayschanging 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I think the main difference here is the venue. Guys coming up to me at a club and telling me I'm hot and sexy and they want to dance with me is expected, but if a random guy were to say that to me on the street it would be weird (I mean, obviously the dancing part on the street would be weird but I think you know what I mean.) Calling someone wife material from just their looks in a place where people go to be complimented on their bodies is acceptable. Like that sub amiugly. People who post there are specifically asking to be judged by their looks, not their personality. That's just my two cents.

[–]sac66064 2 ポイント3 ポイント

That's essentially a point I was trying to make but omitted. It is a sub that is designed to receive feedback on looks. Certainly you can't tell if someone would be compatible with you on a personal level from GW, but when guys say you're wife material in this forum the implication is that they mean wife material in the looks department.

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I see what you're saying, but I can't wrap my head head around that. A physical compliment like 'stunning!' makes sense in that context. "I'd marry you!" is a bit more than a simple compliment in my book.

[–]iamalwayschanging 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I see where you're coming from. I think on the internet, people take the opportunity to exaggerate because they get to be anonymous. Like when a person posts a pic and they have a bit of a belly, they might get called disgusting cow no matter what they look like. It's just exaggerating in the opposite direction. I doubt the guys saying that would actually propose if they had the chance. But who knows... I could be wrong.

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I think you're right. It's kind of the opposite of this.

[–]iamalwayschanging 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Haha exactly. Anonymity can make people say crazy things. It makes it very difficult to engage in meaningful dialogue at all. But it can happen!

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon 3 ポイント4 ポイント

You. You're cool.

[–]iamalwayschanging 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Thanks! I appreciate your input in this conversation. =)

[–]wiserTyou 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Men are known to respond to visual stimuli more than women so why is this misogynistic if it's natural? That would be similar to saying a women is being misandristic for saying a man is husband material because he bought her flowers.

[–]sac66064 2 ポイント3 ポイント

sigh Do you even know what the fuck misogyny means? According to wiki: Misogyny /mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/ is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women.... Now, how exactly does that translate into someone saying a woman is wife material into misogyny. It's called the internet. Its at your fingertips. Use it before you post something that shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And to add insult to injury, I'm getting lectured by a fucking redpiller. Your ignorance shows.