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RIP Maya Angelou (self.books)
submitted 11 時間 前 by WeeklyThreads[M]
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[–]horse_you_rode_in_onSouth of the Border, West of the Sun 447 ポイント448 ポイント449 ポイント 11 時間 前
When Great Trees Fall
When great trees fall, rocks on distant hills shudder, lions hunker down in tall grasses, and even elephants lumber after safety.
When great trees fall,
rocks on distant hills shudder,
lions hunker down
in tall grasses,
and even elephants
lumber after safety.
When great trees fall in forests, small things recoil into silence, their senses eroded beyond fear.
When great trees fall
in forests,
small things recoil into silence,
their senses
eroded beyond fear.
When great souls die, the air around us becomes light, rare, sterile. We breathe, briefly. Our eyes, briefly, see with a hurtful clarity. Our memory, suddenly sharpened, examines, gnaws on kind words unsaid, promised walks never taken.
When great souls die,
the air around us becomes
light, rare, sterile.
We breathe, briefly.
Our eyes, briefly,
see with
a hurtful clarity.
Our memory, suddenly sharpened,
examines,
gnaws on kind words
unsaid,
promised walks
never taken.
Great souls die and our reality, bound to them, takes leave of us. Our souls, dependent upon their nurture, now shrink, wizened. Our minds, formed and informed by their radiance, fall away. We are not so much maddened as reduced to the unutterable ignorance of dark, cold caves.
Great souls die and
our reality, bound to
them, takes leave of us.
Our souls,
dependent upon their
nurture,
now shrink, wizened.
Our minds, formed
and informed by their
radiance,
fall away.
We are not so much maddened
as reduced to the unutterable ignorance
of dark, cold
caves.
And when great souls die, after a period peace blooms, slowly and always irregularly. Spaces fill with a kind of soothing electric vibration. Our senses, restored, never to be the same, whisper to us. They existed. They existed. We can be. Be and be better. For they existed.
And when great souls die,
after a period peace blooms,
slowly and always
irregularly. Spaces fill
with a kind of
soothing electric vibration.
Our senses, restored, never
to be the same, whisper to us.
They existed. They existed.
We can be. Be and be
better. For they existed.
[–]CRISPR -66 ポイント-65 ポイント-64 ポイント 9 時間 前
Did she write something that rhymed?
[–]flavorseal 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 9 時間 前
Still I Rise, They Went Home, Woman Work, etc.
[–]CRISPR -72 ポイント-71 ポイント-70 ポイント 9 時間 前
I just read all three poems. It's very mediocre.
[–]BOQOR 27 ポイント28 ポイント29 ポイント 9 時間 前*
HAHAHA
[–]CRISPR -34 ポイント-33 ポイント-32 ポイント 7 時間 前
People overly worshiping a public figure do not realize how insulting it is to others, how annoying this idolization looks on the front pages of CNN and reddit.
So whenever someone calls someone a "troll", please consider how he feels about insanely unjustified brainwashed majority opinion shoved on him by the media.
You have a great chance to bypass my downvoted "trolling" comment, while I have very little chance to bypass the front page idiocy of majority.
[–]berzerk352 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 6 時間 前
What poets are you a fan of? There is so much more to poetry than rhyming.
[–]CRISPR -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 6 時間 前*
Poetry of all literary genre is most taxing on the language of the public, so naturally people gravitate much more to the mother's tongue. I suppose my list of Russian poetry I liked won't tell much to you.
If I start telling you about Russian translations it won't tell you much either, but at least it would provide some more general cultural background. It has been a while since I read something truly poetic that I liked. In the past I liked the (popularized) samples that I have seen of Rilke, Donne, Auden.
Whoever has no house now, will never have one. Whoever is alone will stay alone, will sit, read, write long letters through the evening, and wander along the boulevards, up and down, restlessly, while the dry leaves are blowing.
I do not know any German and can only guess the meaning of the words of the language relative, but this sounds better:
Wer jetzt kein Haus hat, baut sich keines mehr. Wer jetzt allein ist, wird es lange bleiben, wird wachen, lesen, lange Briefe schreiben und wird in den Aleen hin und her unruhig wandern, wenn die Blätter treiben
[–]berzerk352 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 5 時間 前
Ah I see. I think a lot of the impact from Maya Angelou's death comes from her cultural significance in regards to the civil rights movement in America.
Also maybe the pared down poignancy in her writing doesn't come across to you because of a language barrier.
I've never understood why people feel the need to shit on someone who just died. Even if you disliked her, what's the use except to upset people who actually cared about the person
[–]EnuffDakka -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2 時間 前
So, what is the acceptable time post mortem to "shit on" the dead?
[–]CRISPR -9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 5 時間 前
because of a language barrier.
Not in this case: her language is very trivial.
It irks me when I have been shoved to my face with the remains of some overrated celebrity. It's on front page everywhere.
Thank you, Terry Gross, by the way, for not mentioning it today.
[–]grouch1980 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 6 時間 前
What's almost universally true of all the people that are "forced on you by the majority" is that they all have a life's work, a history, a context, and a story that cannot be understood over a half hour of perusing their work. Not everyone is a fan of Maya Angelou. If you count yourself among that number, that's your prerogative. That doesn't make you wrong. There are many authors and poets whose style and content just doesn't jive with my tastes or reach me at a deeper level. But if I were to wander into an Isaac Asimov book club or Thomas Hardy poetry reading or a Maya Angelou memorial, I'd be damn sure to never ask what works he/she is known for before stating with unequivocal surety that their life's work is "mediocre." Careful. Your insanely unjustified opinion is showing.
[–]CRISPR -6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 6 時間 前
that their life's work is "mediocre
I did not say their life work is mediocre. I limited my opinion to only three poems I have read.
[–]WJHuett 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前
I adore Maya Angelou, but not for her poetry. I agree; it can be over-rated by some and is in the cultural consciousness only because of her writing. Angelou's poetry truly comes alive when you hear her recite it. Otherwise, I agree; it is trivial at times.
However, her work in the field of autobiography is truly transcendent and the reason she earns my utmost respect as an artist and icon. "Why The Caged Bird Sings," and the six books that followed re-defined how we see the genre today -- and for a woman of color to write of such things in the 1960s and 70s really gave voice to many who felt they had none.
Add in her work in the American civil rights movement, and she is one of the 20th century's most important artists.
[–]CRISPR -7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 2 時間 前
American civil rights movement
I guess my distaste for this "movement" played a role in my reaction as well.
[–]Lambda_RailStarship Troopers 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前
So a movement seeking equal civil rights for all is "distasteful"? I'm going to go ahead and assume you have never been repressed for something like the color of your skin or your beliefs.
Your continued, inept attempts, at defending your position are only making you look worse.
[–]flavorseal 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 7 時間 前
Mhm, /r/books must be one of the new defaults...
[–]CRISPR -18 ポイント-17 ポイント-16 ポイント 7 時間 前
What's that supposed to mean: that I am some kind of uneducated person who has very little idea what literature is, or does not have literature standards, or a random "troll"?
[–]flavorseal 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 6 時間 前
That's exactly what I mean or at least what I am assuming. There's nothing wrong with an opinion but that's all you really offered and it comes off a bit rude. What you really mean to say is, "I don't understand the big deal with this lady or her writing." That's completely okay but just ragging the poems kinda silly. And I do notice that a lot of people here are blindly giving their condolences and being overly dramatic("The caged bird is free"... Really,dude?).
With poetry you have to consider the time period, the subject matter, the poet's background... stuff like that. So her poetry doesn't rhyme or flow well. A lot of well known poems don't! But Maya Angelou was a writer from the Jim Crow South so that's interesting in and of itself and she was probably one of the only ones that was still around today, so that is why people are mourning.
Her writing is more like personal accounts from a really different time. I enjoyed what she wrote, If you don't like what's been posted then dig a little deeper maybe you will too but it helps to consider more than rhyming or how "good it is".
[–]CRISPR 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 6 時間 前
Thank you for your thoughtful and non-presumptuous reply. You seem like a level headed bloke:
And I do notice that a lot of people here are blindly giving their condolences and being overly dramatic
If only your comments were the first I have seen in this thread may be my reaction was a bit less pissed off.
comes off a bit rude
I agree, I overreacted.
[–]fgd47gf 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 6 時間 前
you literally offered nothing to the conversation except complaints
[–]CatMtKing 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 9 時間 前
If all you care about is rhyme...
[–]CRISPR -16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 7 時間 前
all
Did I say that?
[–]MaggotAssChauncy -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 7 時間 前
Upvote this troll! Don't give it what it wants.
[–]justhereatwork 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
Troll does as troll is. Please ignore the attention whore. If it gets neither upvotes or downvotes, it will disappear like the fog in the sun.
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