women are also bitches.

"Itâ(TM)s a standard frustrated angry geeky guy manifesto ..."

You hang around a weird/scary bunch of angry geeky guys. The "manifesto" becomes far-out well before the murder-intent plans.

I don't know about you, but there's nothing wrong with me. I would appreciate it if you stopped putting words into my mouth.

I think Henry Rollins summed it up the best...

You say we're all the same.
You don't even know my name.
Sometime somewhere someone wants hurt you and I'm one of them
You think you know about me...
You don't know a damn thing about me!
So I take all the blame...

I'm not all men
I'm just one man
I'm not that man!

in 3... 2... 1... And they'll all get +5 "Insightful" and "Interesting" too.

And they couldn't get more wrong. On both counts.

Forever, because there is no such thing. Only by using the ever-expanding militant-feminist definition of rape which currently stands at "anything, at all, ever, that makes me in the slightest bit uncomfortable" can we possibly believe there's actually a culture of rape. What we ACTUALLY have is a culture of socailly retarded males and females, and culture of feminists preying on the socially retarded females and making them believe that they're entitled to waltz through never being made to feel uncomfortable, ever. This is patently untrue, and no amount of slut-walks can ever create a utopia where a woman - even a man - can leave a ladeeda life.

This must be another of these fake outrage threads.

The guy went to the gym and loved to go out and take pics of himself and his BMW. He was not a nerd.
You will have to use the Asians or autists as scapegoats because we are not taking the fall for this one. Go to hell you piece of shit.

I like to think that most of us are above all this nonsense and just treat each other equally regardless, I don't think it's quite fair to stereotype 'nerds', 'geeks', 'tech-heads' or whatever term you wish to use, and tar us all with the same brush.

Is he going to go through his argument in the standard, logical order, or is going to jump around all over the place to try to confuse the reader?

Wonder how its working out for him after this.

"We're not the ones where one out of six of us will have someone violently attempt to take control of our bodies in our lifetimes."

This is debatable. The numbers on men being raped are even more fuzzy than for women and studies in the military have suggested that it is a lot closer to the rate for female victims that we might imagine.

you are NOTHING

Social standards are built upon the norms established during one's childhood based upon upbringing and exposure to diverse environments.

We are still very young, generation-wise, from the time of women's suffrage. Realistically, we're still very young from the race segregation as well. No matter how good of a person you are, there is another person on the other side of the country being taught opposing beliefs.

These are issues that are not solved overnight. They are solved very slowly, decade-by-decade, as society drifts towards being more open and accepting. Solutions simply require that those who are misogynistic, bigoted, or prejudice be killed off without forcing their beliefs unto their offspring. The percentage of children from each generation who are raised to treat others with respect should then increase over time.

There is no solution, there's nothing to be gained by calling out entire swathes of humanity. To fix this we should strive to teach our kids to treat each other better, then wait 20 years for them to pass on the same message to their kids. We should strive to expose our children to strong female peers, provide good role models, and give them opportunities to learn from each other. And then wait 20 years.

Realize that this is not an issue that will be solved during your lifetime and do what you can for the future generations.

In a country where there's still rampant racism, it'll be a long time before we see gender issues resolved. However, it has made a remarkable movement over the past hundred years.

i've known some pretty bad people in my life, but never someone who raped anyone
i know there are people who do it, but it's not like every guy does it. small percentage
and a lot of incidents are clouded by alcohol and drugs both parties take

ItÃ(TM)s a standard frustrated angry geeky guy manifesto, except for the part about mass murder.

The underlying theme "Why don't girls like nice guys?" Is not limited to "geeks". I've heard plenty of teenagers and 20 something guys say that. The reality is, it's no different than women whining about what Men prefer in women. The difference this time is some moron thought it was justification for randomly killing people

So, while the main threads of this discussion will certainly have no trouble sustaining combustion, what happens if we change the title to:

Misogyny, Entitlement, and Muslims

Misogyny, Entitlement, and Hispanics

Misogyny, Entitlement, and The 1%

Is it still open season on Nerds? Will I not get in trouble for binding "those people" to Nerds, as opposed to Blacks, or Jews, or... ?

Even by geek standards, this guy was a schmuck.

More importantly, he was in therapy pretty much his entire life. How did California miss that when giving him a gun license? (even though he killed a number of people with a knife and his car)

In the words of Chris Rock, what ever happened to crazy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

"When I was a kid, they used to separate the crazy kids from everybody."

Not a bad idea.

The entire premise of the article is bullshit. Everything is a two-way street.

Another low-quality "article" on /.

Personally, I think it's our culture's way of continuing to tease and make fun of "nerds" (of which there's a big difference between "Nerds" and "Geeks").

In this context, Nerds are pathetic, (usually) smart, ugly, socially ignorant and *always* panned by every other clique ... and are almost always boys.

I believe the stories are intentionally written, so that we can get a kick out of the pathetic attempts of these people to "win love", but more importantly, to laugh at their social awkwardness. It's no fun to write a story where one Nerd falls in love with another. It's more fun to watch them ignorantly pursue non-Nerds, with one gaffe after another, we collectively laugh at their un-known embarrassment.

While many of these gags, when looking at the collective body of 30 years of movies, will show misogynistic situations (which I'm 100% sure are true), I believe the true intention is to bully this group and maintain a clique of social outcasts for decades to come.

While I've always been a GEEK, being athletic and having *some* social skills, has kept me out of the NERD category. There was a time when starring at a computer screen, far removed from physical, social contact was considered geeky. After many decades of being a GEEK, I look around to see everyone is now doing it and I often mutter the word "GEEK" or "NERDS".

Telling people who feel like Elliot Rodger that they're not a victim. This will help because 1) they'll believe it, and 2) believing it will solve their issues with reality.

Or perhaps not.

Perhaps it will simply fuel their hatred even more, because now they're even having the reality of their emotions denied, as if they're somehow defective in that respect too.

Assigning victims and victimizers here is completely irrelevant to finding out what's actually wrong with this situation, and how to fix it.

When we print and publicize the names of killers, we inadvertently elevate them and encourage others to imitate their actions. Why give them the glory of infamy? We can just call him "the gunman" of the particular tragedy.

begets more extremism. #yesallwomen have to deal with a culture that extols misogyny as a core value of society. this is a welcome discussion that we should all have, but it doesn't help to lump mass groups of people into stereotypes. maybe in this discussion we should be talking about motivations, triggers, root causes, nature vs nurture rather than simplifying things by blaming large groups of people.

by lumping people into stereotypes we are creating defensiveness and retaliation that does nothing to help the cause. i understand that its easier to point the finger at people rather than at root causes, but with out addressing the root causes how can we alter the way society thinks

Okay.. I don't even know what the fuck this story is about?

If some asshole geeks don't know how to treat other human beings with respect, why is that my problem?
I treat my fellow humans, male or female with the same level of respect.

This isn't about geeks vs non-geeks, this about people who were never taught how to act right in civil society.

So really, what the fuck does this has to do with "geek culture" or whatever the fuck that is supposed to be?

As for the writer, go fuck yourself.

WTF are you talking about?
Seriously! Did you get PW over the weekend or did your wife and mommy tuned in to a feminazi and washed your brain really-really hard?

Be happy you are a man. For f* sake, BE A MAN! I mean a gentleman and not a some idiotic gaveman or this "modern" girlish boy (almost faggot like) with serious issues etc.
Thank the gods women and men are not equal and are different! This why women are so lovable - they are not like men, they are opposite sex!

Some random freak shoots 4 men &2 women and blame goes to world's most men from especially from STEM fields. Only men are the problem ? Does it take only one hand to clap ? It is stupid articles like these which creates Elliot Rodgers and Valerie Solanas.

Don't know who paid this whiteknight enough money to write up such a pathetic script. Feminism is a business now which feeds lobbying groups. It destabilizes families, make society sick these days. Elliot Rodgers is a result of that.

When we can all post online as AC and have TV shows like Tosh.0 and other animated shows where all the adult males are jerks and misogynistic, it's unrealistic to expect young men to think they aren't supposed to be the same.

That and the societal breakdown created by the Entitled Techies and their CEO golf buddies.

Assuming posting this on Slashdot was an attempt to prove verify the author's thesis. Bravo. The comment thread proves the veracity of everything he says.

Can we please avoid posting sexist drivel like this? If I want to be attacked for being my gender I would go over to SRS on reddit. I come here for tech news and this is inappropriate.

but his history is pretty weak. Up until the rise of the internet in the '90s (or possibly the "Weird Science"/"Revenge of the Nerds" era in the 1980s), nerds/geeks/otaku were right up there with gays, women and ethnic/religious minorities for being bullied, harassed and abused by the crueler edges of the mainstream. And this kind of harassment still goes on in certain areas/communities - try being a geek in a gang-ridden slum sometime.

That certainly doesn't justify a nerd perpetuating the cycle of abuse onto women or any of the other groups. But it does mean that there are better ways to engage the "nerd community" than by claiming that they aren't the subjects of abuse themselves.

Glass ceiling = not taking responsibility for our own lives and actions and always blaming others.

This is why nerd/geek girls are in such demand. They dont act like their crotch should get them a job and they have the brains to back it up.

They are the ones at the cons wearing elaborate costumes rather than the typical wannabe with her tights and cape that took all of 30 minutes to put together. Not everyone has to be a slutty superhero for the con.

Stop whining that you got groped at a con while wearing an outfit that would make satan blush.

What is this bullshit? Why is he talking about "us", how dare he try to include ALL men in this rubbish. Perhaps he needs to find better friends?

Really people you have it backwards the cause was no misogyny that is a symptom.
If this guy had been gay he would have hated men that did not want to sleep with him.
If this person had been a straight woman she would have hated men that would not sleep with her.
If this person had been a gay woman she would have hated women that would not sleep with her.

They key here is Narcissist. It is selfishness taken to a pathological level. People like that hate those that do not give them what they want.

5 males and 2 females got killed.

Yeah, it's definitely a femalecentric problem.

Nerds are passionate about things- ER didn't care about anything other than means to bolster his fragile constantly damaged ego.