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[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -19 ポイント-18 ポイント-17 ポイント 2 時間 前*
I suppose if you ignore that the US is the 5th most charitable country in the world(based on GDP but the dollar amount we give is still the highest) his point might make sense. Granted you would also have to have very little understanding of what its like outside the US.
It was ranked 5th on a 2012 report. The latest report has the US as #1 https://www.cafonline.org/PDF/WorldGivingIndex2013_1374AWEB.pdf
[–]eiendots 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 2 時間 前
Would you say it's okay to let rich people off the hook for committing crimes and arresting people for protesting then? As long as they take all the money we give them and they give it to other people for charity, of course. If there is a country out there mutilating girls' genitals then at least we're doing fine; as long as we don't get to that point, we're golden.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 2 時間 前*
You are cherry picking rare events to promote your point of view. In reality it really isn't that way. Rare in terms of population. You're basically making the same argument people use right after a shooting. In reality its an anomaly but people want to blanket ban firearms because of it.
[–]eiendots 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 2 時間 前
No actually, what YOU are doing is cherry picking. Because we do some nice it does not IN ANY WAY absolve the wrongs. That kind of attitude is what stalls any type of social progress in this country. When there are injustices we ought to attack them head on and resolve them, instead what you're doing is saying... oh look, the rest of the world is worse off so it's fine, we're fine, lalalalala.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 2 時間 前
Injustices? You mean you want revenge because they have something you don't?
[–]eiendots 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前
That's not what I mean. But is that what you think an injustice is? Because that is sad.
[–]Viral12 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2 時間 前
It's not possible to make the sums of money these people we're talking about do without exploiting and destroying the lives of others. The more lives you exploit and destroy, the higher your profit margins.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
I had no idea that companies like Microsoft for example has destroyed millions of lives.
Don't be so ridiculous. Rich people for the most part are not some evil club of people that conspire to destroy lives and take peoples money.
[–]Edthecrunkskater 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前
You are incredibly out of touch. Wish I could be that ignorant.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1 時間 前
Out of touch? Not even in the slightest. I'm just more realistic and less delusional about it.
[–]Viral12 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
Rich people for the most part are not some evil club of people that [actively] conspire to destroy lives and take peoples money. They are only marginally evil, destroying lives when and where necessary to show an increase in profits for shareholders.
I fixed your statement. Microsoft is solely responsible for a lot of anti trust protocols that we have today. Gates shredded through thousands of people's livelihoods, put entire companies out of business pushing his agenda, not necessarily by being better, just by being first, and therefore bigger.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前
Maybe someday you will realize that everything you have is thanks to corporations etc... When you decide you're willing to give it all up let me know.
[–]Viral12 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前
O-Oh my god... you're going to vote and have children. A hundred years and a few generations of this compounding, it's no wonder we have these sort of problems.
[–]bobsquid028 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 時間 前
That's kinda hypocritical considering the US spends the most on improving its ability to kill people. Which really isn't that charitable.
Pretty much all research and development that US does is under the military. That doesn't mean its all geared towards killing people. Hell, the iphone was made possible due to technologies that were developed by the military. Thats not to mention you should imagine what its like to be in Ukraine's position with Russia. The people might be in fear every fucking day cause some other country has better technology than they do.
[–]bobsquid028 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2 時間 前
I get your point i just dont agree that the US should pose as the good guy of the world when it spends the most in advancing its ability to make war.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 2 時間 前
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to people who have never experienced real war time situations. It will always sound ridiculous to people who get to live their lives however they wish due to the incredible military technology. You could think of it like having a pet. The pet doesn't know how bad things can really be because he is fed and taken care of every day of his life.
[–]bobsquid028 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2 時間 前
Again i get your point but you think that we wouldn't have come to find these things without one countries military budget. And even money is not the cost you think korea and vietnam were wars that would have in anyway affected the US had they not stepped in. No and yet they wasted the lives of hundreds of thousands of good people. And for what korea is still divided vietnam is just as shitty as ever and pretty much waited till the US left and did what they wanted to anyway. WWII is a good example of your point. Yes that was a time when money for war was needed but guess what happened countries found it. People say ohh without america they would never have stopped. No without America it would have ended 6 months before it did. The Germans ended the war because they failed of there own accord. The US just invited more parties to join the fight. And then they went and killed millions of innocent people. You really think the lives of millions of people are worth some shitting phone that saves me walking 5 mins to talk to someone. Well then you are one sick bastard. BTW i'm not downvoting you.
[–]tevlen 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前
The shift register, the most fundamental unit of digital signal processing (which would let the computer be possible) was created during world war 2 as a part of the effort to break enigma.
[–]GourangaPlusPlus 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前
Why not just directly invest in peaceful research?
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 時間 前
They do. Just cause its developed by the military doesn't mean its for killing people. The majority of the stuff isn't. People say we spend to much on the military but don't realize thats where all the cool technology they own is developed.
[–]Lenar_Hoyt 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 時間 前
I suppose if you ignore that the US is the most charitable country in the world
False.
[–]mr_rightnow 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前
Who is?
[–]OriginalKaveman[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
Me
[–]guccigreene 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前
its true. Hes the Original Kaveman
[–]Lenar_Hoyt 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
Australia, New Zealand and Ireland.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 37 分 前
Check the latest report
https://www.cafonline.org/PDF/WorldGivingIndex2013_1374AWEB.pdf
The US is back at #1. Rank 5 was in 2012's report
[–]SWaspMale -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2 時間 前
Needs a link to supporting evidence.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/09/the-most-generous-countries-on-earth/
[–]SWaspMale 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前
fifth most-generous country
[–]jjbpenguin 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前
As percent of GDP, not total amount of aid.
[–]Lenar_Hoyt 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前
Now, remove all the weapons "aid" from that equation and you drop even further I would be willing to bet.
Ew, yeah. I totally forgot about how much weapons can help people.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 45 分 前
This isn't government aid. This is from the people of the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governments_by_development_aid
[–]Lenar_Hoyt 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 38 分 前
Absolute terms* You're not even in the top 15 going by GNI
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 36 分 前
So? The GNI is ridiculously higher than any other country. It is not even remotely relevant.
Thats like saying if I donate 5% of my income Bill gates should also donate at least 5% of his income. The difference in actual dollar amount is so large it doesn't make any sense that he should donate in the same %
[–]trecht 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前
So because it happens elsewhere too it's okay that it happens in the IS. OK, got it
Where have I ever said that it is ok or are you just assuming I think its ok because I am pointing out a reality?
[–]veribaka -9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 2 時間 前*
the US is the most charitable country in the world
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to laugh at that or not.
edit
I bet that each downvote is by an american who is upset about my comment, and instead of instigating discussion by disagreeing simply downv... pardon... dislike my comment.
[–]BluePurpleGreenYello 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前
Do you just accept all the anti US stuff on reddit as factual information instead of the bias agenda people are trying to push?
[–]veribaka 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前
As much as a strangers post in a social network on the internet.
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