1
3077
3078

How can she slap? (i.imgur.com)

submitted by CoolAsACucumber

sorted by:
best
best
トップ
新着
注目
論争中
古い順
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]SaADooNEsS 122 ポイント123 ポイント

1:05

[–]RequiredFlair 495 ポイント496 ポイント

Wow, am I the only one who thinks she deserved this? And then they pile on this poor bastard.

[–]thoughtnumber226 141 ポイント142 ポイント

No, I don't think either of them deserve to be slapped. What upsets me is how we have a standard for punishing men and protecting the women who initiate the violence.

I don't know what these contestants agreed to, but it doesn't look like slapping was part of the expectations. When that woman decided slapping was the appropriate thing to do, she crossed the line. The guy shouldn't have slapped her back, but he didn't deserve to get jumped for it either.

I understand why we have these unspoken rules in place. Because women are physically weaker than men and it is not seen as a fair fight. I don't disagree with that. But when a woman decides to punish a small child physically for bad behavior, do we then find it acceptable to beat on her because she hit someone physically weaker than her? No. Violence is not the answer to more violence.

TL;DR: Women are allowed to express their emotional outbursts with violence and men are expected to hold their emotions and not retaliate.

[–]murphykills 109 ポイント110 ポイント

men shouldn't hit women because they're not strong enough to defend themselves. by the same logic, women should not hit men because they aren't socially allowed to defend themselves. it's almost the exact same thing but people seem to have no problem ignoring the latter, while getting REALLY angry about the former.

[–]Tony_Chu 89 ポイント90 ポイント

A man should only ever hit a woman for the exact same reasons that a woman should ever hit a man: to prevent something worse from happening.

Is she about to kick a baby? Push her away from the baby.

Is he about to push an old lady down a flight of stairs? Stop him physically.

Is it Justin Bieber? Kill it with fire.

This isn't rocket science.

[–]Sigg3net 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Is it Justin Bieber? Kill it with fire.

OTOH, he is breaking down publicly from being his parents' creation. He is a human being who grew into the slavery of child-celebrity before he was grown up enough to ascertain whether this is what he wanted to do with his life.

I think he acts like a complete asshole, but there is something desperate about it. He is surrounded by industry scum everywhere at all times. I am happy to be an average Joe who can enjoy the peace of mind I think everyone needs. If the same courtesy was extended to Bieber, perhaps he would have occasion to reconsider and do good.

[–]Mossmaster 1 ポイント2 ポイント

hmmm... no, kill it with fie.

[–]cockrental 0 ポイント1 ポイント

ecch, so hack

[–][deleted]

[deleted]

    [–]racetoten 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    Police should have their own federally mandated rules of engagement with mandatory prison time for violations. Even in Iraq I couldnt just shoot someone for being armed and not listening to a verbal command.

    [–]babySquee 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    Can we all agree that adults/people should be adults/people and not hit/slap each other ever. My self defense teacher told us if you want to make anyone lose total control and go berserker on you, slap them. No matter how much training you have they will have rage and adrenaline fueling them to kill you. Don't risk it.

    A slap can hurt like hell, sting for a while after and it hurts the ego (causing rage). Unless you're into S&M, do as you please as long as the other has given consent and safe word has been established.

    [–]Please_Stop_PMing_Me 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Excellent point. I will be using this knowledge....

    [–]Linkyc 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    That is the very reason why I was forced to bear bullying from my schoolmates, girls, at the elementary school. Because I am boy, stronger and physically superior I can't defend myself against women for it would hurt them and also, it is embedded in our social and moral code not to hurt them. So whenever one of the girls approached me and pour coca cola onto my lap, splash water all over me or just verbally attack me and I try to lash back, teacher promptly stop me from doing so. Good to know, I have very bad and crooked attitude towards women today, which is sad and I am trying to change it.

    [–]Animal_Inside_You 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I was in 4th grade and this girl decided she wanted to fight me... she was punching me and shoving me, and I just kept walking away saying that I don't hit girls... this went on for like 10 minutes. Then she connected with one punch to the back of my head that just set me off, I turned around with a brutal backhand to her chin and leveled her... which turned into her crying and running to the teacher.

    AND I GOT INTO TROUBLE after explaining exactly how it happened... you know, the whole walking away and just absorbing the incessant punches from behind for ten minutes.

    OH and like 4 years later she tried to say something like, "do you remember that time I kicked your ass in 4th grade?" Fucking, seriously?

    [–]kickstand 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    People shouldn't hit other people.

    [–]you_know_how_I_know 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    People should not hit other people because it's rude, and whenever feasible one should always eat the rude.

    [–]murphykills 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    ALWAYS

    [–]TheOneTonWanton 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    With ketchup. Mmmm.

    [–]NK1337 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    men shouldn't hit women because they're not strong enough to defend themselves. by the same logic, women should not hit men because they aren't socially allowed to defend themselves.

    No, men shouldn't hit women and women shouldn't hit men because of a thing called respect.

    [–]cali-pigeon 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    The guy in the gameshow should not have slapped the hostess. He should have used his fist.

    [–]roastedbagel 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    omg SRS is gonna love this

    grabs popcorn

    [–]cali-pigeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I still haven't figured then out- are they just an elaborate parody?

    [–]roastedbagel 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Sadly no...they're a bunch of maniacal feminists.

    [–]WhyAmINotStudying 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    Sorry. If someone hits you, you should be permitted to hit them back. That's basically the fundamental tenet of self-defense. Otherwise, it would be perfectly acceptable for some people to go around abusing the hell out of others with no recourse.

    The rules change when you start hitting people.

    How can she slap?

    [–]Hoeftybag 13 ポイント14 ポイント

    Personally, as a fairly large and strong man I give women three hits before I retaliate and I always hold back unless they were to continue to fight. After getting hit twice I will attempt to block anything (slaps are predictable I'm not saying I'm a martial artist), while I warn them that one more attempt to hit me will warrant a response. I swear that this is heard as a fucking challenge. They inevitably try to hit me again I grab their wrist and twist it or squeeze using less than full strength and they usually flip out or sulk away to bitch about it later.

    One time a woman decided that she should continue to slap me for real, I was easily twice her size. I ended up slamming them to the ground. I am not proud of this but I am not embarrassed either I feel that the response was more than fair. There is a large difference between beating someone weaker than you and using superior strength or size to make them stop.

    [–]watafukup 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    how many times has this happened to you that you have a whole strategy laid out? perhaps you have an instigating streak in you?

    [–]Hoeftybag 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I used to have long car rides with my sister and we did brother sister annoying each other play slapping. Well she started to hot harder so I did too, I was older by a couple years so that was a no. Started giving her warning and she knew not to cross the line. I then had a girlfriend in highschool that liked to slap too hard and play too rough (not like that) I simply decided to use my old rule. We broke up not long after but I realized the three strikes rule was pretty effective still so I keep using it to this day.

    I am not confrontational in nature but I'll admit I do have a few people I'd like to fight. High school was not kind to me.

    [–]watafukup 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    right on. i forget that other people lived with other people their own age growing up. makes perfect sense. rule adopted!

    [–]_WarShrike_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    Good grief, yeah giving them the ultimatum to stop seems to make them turn the crazy up a few notches.

    My Dad always said it wasn't right to hit a woman, but if she was going to hit like a man, she deserved to get the same but with a warning.

    [–]Hoeftybag 2 ポイント3 ポイント

    Basically the same concept I just put a number on it because I do that.

    [–]_WarShrike_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Yup. Having something habitually in place can help when adrenaline tries to make you do other wise.

    [–]ZombyHeadWoof 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    Why are you getting slapped so much?

    [–]electriophile -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Probably because he's an asshole

    [–]seymour1 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    Why are so many women physically attacking you?

    [–]jimmy2x2x -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Aye, if you are acting like a cunt you deserve to be treated like a cunt. This of course is not dependent on the presence of an actual beef curtain cunt.

    [–]Sandysandwich 37 ポイント38 ポイント

    Great point. Look how everyone reacted to Chris Brown beating up Rihanna vs Solange Beating up Jay-z.

    Chris Browns incident happened years ago, and people still give him shit about it.

    Jay-Z's incident happened last week, and you barely heard anything.

    Shit, it was trending on twitter right after it happened and people were joking about Solange beating his ass.

    Had Jay-Z attacked Solange, the guy would be crucified.

    These double standards are bullshit.

    [–]Lolthien 30 ポイント31 ポイント

    Well, there is also the matter of degree. Rhianna got sent to the hospital and her face was fucked up for days. Jay-Z got out of an elevator with some hurt pride, but that was it. If she had beaten him bloody and sent him to the hospital I'm sure there would have been more coverage.

    But you are right, there wouldnt' have been more outrage.. it would be more like "I wonder what he did that caused him to get beaten like that?"

    [–]hey_ross 1 ポイント2 ポイント

    I didn't realize that Jay-Z gave Solange herpes.

    Oh, wait, that was Rihanna. She fucked around, got infected and then infected Chris without informing him.

    Not excusing violence, just explaining it.

    [–]Lolthien 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I'm the same way, I'm sure you aren't justifying violence... but I'm saying if you are wondering why people still hold Chris accountable, it's because her bloody face and swollen eye were all over the news.

    It's just the way it is. I have a feeling you and I don't disagree on this issue really.

    [–]seriousjohn 142 ポイント143 ポイント

    Jay z after being attacked

    Rihanna after being attacked

    I wonder why people reacted differently...

    [–]NK1337 4 ポイント5 ポイント

    I wonder why people reacted differently.

    But I think it still makes a valid point that had Jay-Z retaliated and gotten physical with Solange in return, nobody would be commenting on Solange initiating an attack but rather on Jay-Z beating up a woman.

    [–]electriophile -1 ポイント0 ポイント

    Nobody would have cared if he restrained her, that's generally what people are taught to do when being smacked by someone half your size.

    [–]seriousjohn -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

    I would like to think that would depend on his actions. If he clearly was trying to grapple with her to get her under control then I really don't think anybody would have problems with that. If he started raining blows on her I can see that being controversial. But I've mentioned by thoughts on the responsibilities that come with a strength in balance elsewhere

    [–]Ptolemy48 3 ポイント4 ポイント

    Well Jay did have a big ass bodyguard between him and Solange.

    [–]bruce656 6 ポイント7 ポイント

    Looks like he has a fat lip...

    [–]kurt_go_bang 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    How about the Slap Chop guy getting into a fist fight with his hooker over payment and ending up handcuffed to a hospital bed with an effed up face.

    Google image search "slap chop prostitute". Even with Safe Search on you get safe, but funny as can be pics. The hooker was pretty hot too.

    [–]seriousjohn 0 ポイント1 ポイント

    I just googled the pictures they both seem pretty roughed up. I really don't know enough about the case to make any judgement about it though, sorry. Different country.

    [–][deleted]

    [deleted]

      [–]seriousjohn 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      Who said Jay Z was wrong? Solange clearly started the fight and was at fault. But clearly different situations and outcomes having different public reactions seems pretty fucking normal to me.

      [–]z3us -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

      Equal rights means equal fights.

      [–]electriophile -1 ポイント0 ポイント

      No, it doesn't. If someone hits you, they go to jail. If you hit back, you both go to jail. Hitting back is only legally and morally acceptable if you have literally no other choice.

      [–]SomeOldGoat 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      Are you serious? The celebrity gossip sites that most widely proliferated that Jay Z/Solange video WILL NOT stop talking about it.

      [–]notnotnotnotcool 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      Jay Z wasn't in danger, Rihanna had the fucking shit beaten out of her.

      ...

      [–]not_AtWorkRightNow 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      I don't really know how to respond to this. So I'll let Hank Hill do it

      [–]the_peppers -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

      Bullshit. Jay-Z could have easily overpowered Solange. That's why there is no outcry. Both incidents are acts of violence, but the balance of power is totally different.

      Yes, if Jay-Z had attacked Solange he would have been crucified, rightly so, because Solange would not have been able to stop him.

      It's depressing how glaringly obvious this difference is, yet how many commenters here want to play the downtrodden male, victimised by the mean feminazis and their double standards.

      [–]Prodigy195 4 ポイント5 ポイント

      I get your point but I think some of the "outrage" comes from the fact that there are many people who clamor so loudly to be treated as societal equals except when it doesn't provide benefit to them. And we're all guilty of it to a certain degree. Men, women, religious groups, ethnic groups, and every other group you can think of.

      [–]cobeast 9 ポイント10 ポイント

      Balance of power. What the fuck is this 18th century European history class? I don't give a shit who you are if you attack someone you better be ready for retaliation. So you can attack anyone you care to without repercussions so long as you attack someone stronger than you? If I walk up to Mike Tyson and punch him in the face by your fucked up logic he just has to take it because he could easily overpower me.

      [–]kkkimchii 5 ポイント6 ポイント

      Good point. We should only hold someone accountable for their violence if their targets can't stop the violence.

      (That was extreme sarcasm in case you didn't pick up on it)

      [–]the_peppers 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      We should hold people accountable for the impact of their violence.

      Do you believe both these incidents had the same impact on their respective victims?

      [–]erts 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      No, but you do you think Chris Brown was more in the wrong than Solange just because he was able to do more damage? I'm sure in the heat of the moment if Solange physically could she would have done the same to Jay-Z, so by your logic, only until that point will she be held accountable for her actions. That's some backward logic bro

      [–]the_peppers 0 ポイント1 ポイント

      I think Chris Brown was more wrong than Solange because he DID more damage. If Solange had beaten Jay-Z's face to a pulp then it would be a different situation.

      [–]erts 2 ポイント3 ポイント

      But it's okay to try and beat his face to a pulp? If she had the capacity to do, she would have. So why was it being celebrated, whereas the Chris Brown incident was being shamed. Both acts should be shamed. This is a retarded double standard in society

      [–]Agnotastical -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

      Chris Brown was DEFINITELY more in the wrong because he actually beat the fuck out of someone. You're comparing assault and battery to assault. Both crimes. Assault and battery is much more serious because you're responsible for damages..

      Kinda like drinking and driving is bad but you won't lose your life, just your license and car possibly, but Killing someone while driving drunk, you're going away for a long time, pal.

      It's taking the crime to another level, making it much worse.

      [–][deleted]

      [deleted]

        [–]the_peppers -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

        No, but from what little I know of the event I doubt Jay-Z would be suffering any emotional trauma.

        [–][deleted]

        [deleted]

          [–]TRH_Floyd 2 ポイント3 ポイント

          It's about intention not impact! If someone tried to stab me but I managed to escape unscathed should they be let off because the impact of their violence was nil? I don't think you've thought through what you're actually implying.

          [–]seriousjohn -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

          Let off? No. There are plenty of laws that cover such attacks and they should be prosecuted under those laws. But to declare that impact doesn't matter is delusional. If he had actually succeeded in harming or killing you, the impact would have been a lot greater. And the crime a lot more severe. Intention matters, but impact matters a whole lot as well. Both scenarios are not the same.

          [–]skankingsquiggle 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          They were both assaults so yeah.

          [–]Hussein_Oda 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          Let me see if I understand this; if a man hits a women, he should pay for it because men are stronger then women, but if a woman isn't allowed to play in a major league men's division sport, that's sexist?

          [–]cheersandapplause -1 ポイント0 ポイント

          I think someone getting a couple of pops off in an elevator before being restrained, while the victim looks on nonchalantly, are worlds apart from a situation where someone is beating the absolute shit out of a woman who is trapped in his car. People aren't talking about the J thing because they've already released a statement and are basically treating it like it's no big deal.

          [–]Maiotome 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          I thought at first, they were protecting her to teach the contestants to stay in line. They don't want the presenter to be hurt. It's not like they can have the main star get hurt because this would affect filming and their jobs. Although it is pretty obvious that a lot of these white knights feel a connection with her.

          [–]xXxTrollxXx 3 ポイント4 ポイント

          Apparently it's a game show where they are supposed to be hazed by the woman.

          [–]Eihwaz 29 ポイント30 ポイント

          Yes, but not physically, read the comments/description.

          She pushed him to the edge, and then became physical when she wasnt supposed to.

          She got what she deserved. Fucking double standards.

          [–]atahualp81 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          Jay-Z vs Solange.

          [–]phrankygee 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          With great power comes great responsibility.

          [–]bioblaster 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          I think the logic of women being allowed to hit men because they are weaker is seriously flawed. If I went up to a guy twice my size and hit him, and he kicked the shit out of me, no one would have any sympathy for me, their reaction would just be 'dont initiate violence with someone who can hurt you'. I dont see how a man retaliating to a woman is any different. Cant defend yourself against someone? Then don't hit them.

          [–]thurst0n 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          Personally, I think the man could have used physical force to stop himself from being hit again without striking her. He obviously did not deserve to be hit in the first place. I think some people would consider it violence for him to touch her at all, but I think he has a right to protect himself, he has no idea if she will hit him again, and even though women are physically weaker overall, it doesn't mean they don't have the ability to do serious harm with the help of any number of easily obtainable objects, or if nothing is around we have a pretty big weak spot in our groin. I guess my point is, that I wouldn't really consider this a fight, they each hit each other once, and it looked like it very well could have ended there if the rest of the room let it end. Tit for tat as they say. You can preach your Ghandi of turning the other cheek, but in reality there are bullies in this world who don't understand anything except violence, and perhaps that woman wasn't one of them, but she was toxic in every way and just wanted to instigate.

          All that being said, their culture is completely different than mine(American) so I can't speak very well to the further subtext there.

          [–]Gufnork 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          From what I can tell the woman's brother is the one who's upset and jumps the guy, the rest are trying to break up the fight between them. This is not the shining example of double standard in this clip, the reason no one jumps the woman is because she doesn't keep fighting. Had she jumped the guy you bet your ass people would have stepped in to stop her.

          [–]onespursfan 1 ポイント2 ポイント

          It's hilarious to me (/sad, really) that half of your votes are downvotes for saying no one should get hurt. Geez.

          [–]Monkey_Kebab 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          Violence is not the answer to more violence.

          No, but sometimes it's the solution.

          [–]ArkansasFresh 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          According to "Know Your Meme," the point of the show "Bindass Dadagiri" is to revisit the bullying of the first day of college through abuse and Fear Factor style stunts.

          The lesson learned is dont attend college in India.

          [–]neightdog 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          if you slap someone, you most definitely deserve to be slapped back

          [–]breauxstradamus 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          I'll gladly take the double standard to not have to worry about being a small, physically weak woman. I don't hit women for the same reason I don't hit children. They don't really hurt me when they hit me, and if they do I only have to restrain them.

          [–]lordlimecat -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

          The guy shouldn't have slapped her back, but he didn't deserve to get jumped for it either.

          If protecting women is the standard, the guys jumping him probably shouldnt have shouted out "fuck his mum, fuck his sister".

          And while I agree men should not hit women, theres such a thing as blind rage-- it doesnt excuse the hitting, but given that it was "just" a slap, and given the circumstances, I think giving the guy a beat down is pretty excessive.

          [–]mdq1 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

          The capacity for most women to inflict true damage to a man is very little, whilst the capacity for men to inflict damage to women is great. If a woman actually harmed a child, the outrage would be unspeakable.

          Society takes into consideration the capacity to inflict damage and sets standards accordingly. That´s all there is to it.

          If the woman where a UFC fighter attacking a 120 pound man, no one would be outraged if he where to fight back.

          [–]snipe_hunter -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

          I do not condone the game-show slapping behavior, it was wrong, it's been on Reddit before, we've all already given our opinions, etc.

          I feel like what you wrote was well written and I liked what you said.

          My gut still feels like it's important to maintain a double standard in which it is generally considered worse for men to be physically violent to women than the other way around because there is a deeply entrenched history of violence against women and we are not very far from the days when women could be beaten with impunity by their husbands.

          I'm not a huge fan of black people using the "n" word. I don't think it advances race relations at all and actually causes further contention, but I also feel that regardless of whether black people use it at home or in public white people should not get to control the word, the discussion about the word, or be immune from consequences for using the word. It's still too soon and it will probably keep being too soon for the next two hundred years.

          I am also not a huge fan of "hate crime" enhancements of criminal sentencing. If someone breaks a beer bottle on my face in a bar because they are drunk and I bumped into them they might get a lesser sentence than someone who breaks a beer bottle on my face because I am a disabled gay muslim. The bottle still gets broken on my face either way!

          These are all double standards that I am perfectly ok living with. Not because I think they are Infinitely Just but because we are trying to break away from deeply embedded behaviors that are grievously harmful to the larger society.

          I hate seeing women physically abusing men. I think they should be punished for their assault. But I don't think the outrage really comes from the fact that the women slap the men but from men's frustration that they "can't" hit the women back. That is nothing but ego, not concerns about justice. If a woman hits a man then the man should walk/run away or call the police and get a restraining order just like ANYONE should do if ANYONE hits them. The problem here is in thinking that anyone should solve being assaulted with hitting back. Like you said: violence is not the solution to violence. The thought that it should be is the weakness in the argument of the people who don't like the "men can't hit women back" double-standard.

          Have a nice day!

          [–]thoughtnumber226 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

          No, the outrage is that women can get away with assaulting men with impunity. The very same impunity you decry husbands having over their wives in the past. As if what happened in the past justifies a role reversal and men should be punished to protect women.

          [–]alreadypiecrust -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

          "Violence is not the answer..." I think that depends on the situation. If some random guy slaps the shit out of your mother, for whatever the reason, in front of you, laughs & tries to run, you END his life right there & then. Well...at least that's what I would do.

          [–][deleted]

          [deleted]

            [–]alreadypiecrust -1 ポイント0 ポイント

            Don't fucking judge me motherfucker! So I should be on full alert in case of an attack at all times? Well hopefully, you'll have the chance to prove your worth many times over thtoughout your life fucking douchebag!

            [–][deleted]

            [deleted]

              [–]alreadypiecrust -1 ポイント0 ポイント

              You must have super powers to be able to see ALL things before they happen. If someone comes behind you & slaps the back of your head would you consider that as you "let" it happen? Well, I don't have that power & FUCK YOU for thinking that.

              [–][deleted]

              [deleted]

                [–]alreadypiecrust -1 ポイント0 ポイント

                These were HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS!!! If you can't make the connection, then don't instigate an argument!!!

                [–]freeloader11 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

                I agree full-heartedly. I've never hit a woman and I've had a few take sneak shots at me for whatever reason it may have been at the time. However, I feel the second you take that step as a woman or man, there is no turning back and whatever happens is your fault. You should have had the control in the first place to not do it so don't blame someone else (not you but in a general sense) for reacting regardless of gender. I say all of this because my brother at the age of 19-21 (not exactly sure what age specifically) got his wisdom teeth pulled out and upon returning to his apartment, his roommates girlfriend was there for some reason and immediately bitches him out for god knows what once he opens the door. Words lead to more words and out of nowhere she slaps him....in the face...the day of his surgery. My brother is a very respectful down to earth southern gentlemen who grew up with very very strong morals, I do not blame him for his immediate response to grab and throw her. I do realize that some may not agree with my view, but I hate that women fight to be treated as equally but then when it's a situation where they want special circumstances, everything changes.