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NFL Mods suppressing breaking news (self.nfl)

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Why are all of the posts about Aaron Hernandez and his new charges being deleted? This could have an impact on the Patriots cap space.

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[–]Chiefsnotacleverman 148 ポイント149 ポイント

Obviously a former NFL player still getting paid by the NFL getting arrested for an unsolved double-murder isn't relevant to the NFL.

[–]JetsRugger11 53 ポイント54 ポイント

Especially a star nfl player. Not like he was some nobody.

[–]GiantsNdaGeldibluns 7 ポイント8 ポイント

All over SportsCenter and regular news media too.

So it must not be news worthy or worthy of relating.

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    [–]Bearsbluengreen7 9 ポイント10 ポイント

    This is mind boggling. This story isn't connected to the murder he was already indicted for. This is a separate unsolved double murder that he is now connected to. An NFL player, playing for an NFL team which would have implications for cap space. This isn't a TMZ rumor post, this is a big fucking deal and has huge implications for how the Patriots will juggle their future roster. NFL mods, please don't become the /technology mods, you're a great group of people who have made a great subreddit, but I think you've got this one wrong.

    [–]Cardinalsearthtoandy 11 ポイント12 ポイント

    I love how the mods are ignoring that this is a part of being an NFL fan. We watch for the football but also for the story and drama behind it. Same with anything else. If course it's relevant and of course we care

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      [–]VikingsValid-Username 260 ポイント261 ポイント

      Socrates died for this shit.

      [–]BroncosJux_ 132 ポイント133 ポイント

      Did Hernandez kill him? Is that why we can't read about it?

      [–]Falconselneuvabtg 32 ポイント33 ポイント

      This really sucks and is ruining /r/nfl. We should be able to come to /r/nfl as a "one stop shop" for everything NFL news. We shouldn't have to browse ESPN before coming to /r/nfl just to have an idea of what is going on. It defies the entire point of Reddit.

      And yet, the most popular and most basic news is banned from this community. We're forced to go to traditional media simply to be informed about the sport.

      What a shame. This community is capable of being far more than our moderators will allow it to be. And by "far more", I simply mean: This community is capable of actually informing people about what is happening in the NFL. Currently, thanks to our terrible moderation team, we are failing at our most basic task.

      [–]RedskinsTheRemedy 10 ポイント11 ポイント

      You can go to any large and nearly unmodderated subreddit and see that people can't control themselves and turn it to shit. I'd rather have aggressive mods who occasionally get things wrong than adviceanimals nfl edition.

      If you want everything there are tons of news sites for that.

      [–]Packerscrapazoid 9 ポイント10 ポイント

      I think you are being a bit dramatic and saying that these mods are terrible is really unfair. I prefer this sub to be as far away as possible from ESPN and I think many would agree with that.

      [–]PatriotsLutzExpertTera 64 ポイント65 ポイント

      terrible moderation team

      That's ludicrous and hyperbolic. Just because there are 2 or 3 rules you disagree with does not discount the great work the mod team does for this subreddit.

      [–]RedskinsTheWalrusRule 11 ポイント12 ポイント

      Seriously. Does anyone remember when the mods attempted to do vote masking in the game thread during preseason? They had stated it was a trial period (during the worst games of the season), and would evaluated how well it worked out at the end. Yet after the first week you would of though they shit in somebody's mouth.

      [–]Patriotsfermented-fetus 1 ポイント2 ポイント

      Honestly what have they done. especially recently? They need to let the upvote, downvote buttons do their job.

      /r/nba has surpassed this as the best sports sub and it's not even close. I guess this sub is a good representation of the modern NFL tho, aka the No Fun League. And it starts with the mods who make up rules that are just not needed, or wanted.

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        [–]JaguarsEweMad 6 ポイント7 ポイント

        Disregard that this is one of the best subreddits.

        [–]Jetsnickmangoldsbeard 5 ポイント6 ポイント

        You do realize what you're replying to here right? The top comment is a joke and the comment following it that you replied to is a joke about hernandez. Do you really think we have some great discussion about this news? What's to know beyond the indictment, what's to discuss that hasn't be rehashed since last year?

        The whole thread would just be a great big joke about something that's only tangentially related to /r/nfl

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          [–]SeahawksTheDutchess 0 ポイント1 ポイント

          Oh you!

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            [–]Dolphinshebleb 41 ポイント42 ポイント

            I always laugh at these angry mob posts because they always end up not deleted and upvoted to #1, instead of the story

            [–]Steelerssmacksaw 4 ポイント5 ポイント

            I think the mods laugh as well.

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              [–]ByJoveByJingle 43 ポイント44 ポイント

              First the library of Alexandria now this.

              [–]SeahawksFISTRAPESKULLFUCK 39 ポイント40 ポイント

              Thanks Obama

              [–]SaintsIAMAVelociraptorAMA 2 ポイント3 ポイント

              Maybe if the CIA were more responsible with their teleportation devices to Mars they wouldn't be having these problems going to the past

              [–]SeahawksTheDutchess 0 ポイント1 ポイント

              Well, those guys are insane

              [–]LionsMotorCityNachos 3 ポイント4 ポイント

              dont get me started about the fucking library

              [–]dinodoe 9 ポイント10 ポイント

              No he didn't.

              He didn't believe in civil disobedience. He believe that the rules that were set, albeit unfair, were to be respected and abided by those in the community.

              It's not the Laws themselves that are unjust, it's the people who made the Laws that are unjust. So even though it may not seem fair to the individual, the Laws must be obeyed.

              To make thing short, in Crito Socrates explains that since you are a part of the community and have reaped the benefits of the community, you are now in agreement with the community to abide by its Laws. It's your choice to leave, but if you do not, then it is your obligation to follow the Laws.

              This is why Socrates refused to escape prison with his friend Crito. He accepted his punishment.

              TL;DR: Socrates did NOT die for this shit.

              [–]Patriotspatsfan94 7 ポイント8 ポイント

              It's a reference to a highly-upvoted post from /r/atheism last year shortly after new rules were put into place.

              [–]GiantsNdaGeldibluns 0 ポイント1 ポイント

              SOLLEEECRAAATESSS!!

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                [–]Seahawksfrankthe12thtank 126 ポイント127 ポイント

                If this doesn't fit in /r/nfl, then what sub does it fit under?

                [–]CowboysEffYourCouch 80 ポイント81 ポイント

                /r/AdviceAnimals apparently.

                [–]49ersAFCflair 64 ポイント65 ポイント

                goes in a Tight End, comes out a Wide Receiver. Am I right, guys?

                [–]Chiefstd27 9 ポイント10 ポイント

                Classic

                [–]RedskinsZZZrp 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                REKT

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                  [–]BroncosJux_ 23 ポイント24 ポイント

                  Scumbag Aaron

                  [–]SeahawksIranianGenius 53 ポイント54 ポイント

                  Scumbag Aaron

                  • Murders people

                  • Allegedly

                  These captions are not guaranteed to be indicted.

                  [–]ChargersLonelan 39 ポイント40 ポイント

                  Scumbag Aaron

                  • Makes a completion for 25

                  • to life

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                    [–]BillsDeacalum 60 ポイント61 ポイント

                    The funny thing is my NFL mobile app that is controlled by the NFL just alerted me to the breaking news about Hernandez. So the NFL thinks it's NFL news but /r/NFL does not. Interesting.

                    [–]Ravenselusivetao 11 ポイント12 ポイント

                    Thank you. This is so true. The FACT is that people who are NFL fans love to read about shit like this.

                    [–]49ersPersonEveryman 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                    I wouldn't say it's a fact, I'm not really interested in that sort of thing, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

                    Not saying it necessarily needs to be removed, but all caps "fact" is a bit of an overstatement.

                    [–]Packersslashslashss 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                    I didn't see the Hernandez post before it was removed? Got direct links? Or you can just give me a summary

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                      [–]Eaglesckleschick227 345 ポイント346 ポイント

                      Not gonna lie. Mods are getting annoying with deleting good enough posts for the sub

                      [–]Dolphinshray12 235 ポイント236 ポイント

                      Seriously. It's the offseason, the front page of this sub has

                      Who's your #2 team?
                      Who do you irrationally hate?
                      What's your favorite NFL picture?

                      but can't leave this?

                      [–]VikingsBlain 42 ポイント43 ポイント

                      Where are all the "If your team was a restaurant, what would the main course be?" posts?!? C'mon guys I've been sitting on these Zach Mettenburger jokes for ages. Comedy gold!

                      [–]LionsHighest_Koality 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                      And now you've just given it away.

                      [–]VikingsFootballvike81 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                      I get it

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                        [–]Eaglesckleschick227 41 ポイント42 ポイント

                        Plus the fact they remove upvoted discussion posts with plenty of comments yet they don't touch downvoted posts

                        EDIT: Forgot to add that most of the downvoted posts contain idiotic questions full of useless comments yet it stays

                        [–]PatriotsLutzExpertTera 21 ポイント22 ポイント

                        To be fair, just because a post is downvoted doesn't necessarily mean it's breaking the rules.

                        [–]Saintsserenity_suppository 29 ポイント30 ポイント

                        JA IF VE VOULD JUST OBEY ZE RULES AT ALL TIMES VOULD BE NO PUNISHMAKING

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                          [–]Billscuteintern 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                          /new is even worse. It's a fucking train wreck.

                          [–]Seahawksristo1116 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                          I don't even think the offseason matters for this one. It's NFL-related, it doesn't matter what time of year. This should never be deleted. If it wasn't relevant, we'd downvote it... I'm not sure why the mods don't agree with that.

                          [–]PatriotsMushroomMan89 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                          I just deliberately posted a dumb question to see if it stays up. Bet it does.

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                            [–]TitansCiscoR 59 ポイント60 ポイント

                            But they let us keep "Will Peyton win the MVP next year" that's posted 4 times a week!

                            [–]NFLCatzonVinyl 48 ポイント49 ポイント

                            Well? Will he?

                            Ugh. You didn't answer. I guess I'll go post the question to /r/NFL

                            [–]TitansCiscoR 16 ポイント17 ポイント

                            I think before we can answer that we need to have an "Unpopular Opinions" thread filled with popular opinions

                            [–]Steelerssmacksaw 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                            That's why I make every thread an "Unpopular Opinion" thread. Free yourself! Don't wait for someone to grab you and start circlejerking.

                            [–]NFLCatzonVinyl 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                            It would be funny, but you and I both know if we make a thread making fun of users it'll only be full of fedora jokes.

                            [–]Seahawkstrexmoflex 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                            I highly recommend everyone on /r/nfl spend some time on /r/nflcirclejerk to take the edge off once in a while

                            [–]Seahawksbatchslip 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                            While you're there, make sure to ask every single user's opinion on every single thing Richard Sherman has ever said - we never know, new and fresh insight could be right around the corner!

                            [–]NFLCatzonVinyl 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                            All I know is he was on TV once and he scared a pretty girl so I hate everything he's ever done or ever said ever.

                            [–]NFLthisis887 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                            To be fair, that kind of post actually triggers legit conversation and debate in the comments.

                            [–]RedskinsClintHammer 39 ポイント40 ポイント

                            It's a "This is why we can't have nice things" thing.

                            The community was so irresponsible with upvoting TMZ and bullshit with the breaking point being C Kap being portrayed as a sexual predator and a whole thread full of rape jokes, that the Mods were begged to start deleting bullshit.

                            [–]aWitcher 44 ポイント45 ポイント

                            A rumor from TMZ and announcement of a murder indictment are very different

                            [–]RedskinsClintHammer 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                            Point being, people misbehaved with their toy and the rest of us asked for it to be taken away, now the mods are just doing what we asked them to do.

                            This is why I'd never be a mod of anything. They just can't fucking win

                            [–]Saintsserenity_suppository 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                            Yeah you could not delete news about a fucking murder that took a #2 pick from the league last season.

                            I'm pretty sure that one falls under the rule of "common sense"

                            [–]Seahawksspraj 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                            Hernandez was a 4th round pick. Not #2 overall or a 2nd rounder.

                            [–]Patriotsfiction8 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                            a whole thread full of rape jokes

                            Demonstrably false. There were a few upvoted comments about Beats, but there were also a very large number of upvoted comments discussing the actual information surrounding the incident.

                            The initial thread contained PLENTY of good discussion and breaking news about what was actually going on. I learned more about the situation in that thread (mostly that it wasn't actually sexual assault and that it wasn't going to amount to anything) than I did from any of the others that followed up.

                            But by all means don't let reality stop you, continue patting yourself on the back about crusading against TMZ/etc and thinking of the rest of the sub as rumor-crazy idiots.

                            [–]PackersLakerBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                            Joking prematurely was wrong of those people but originally it was reported as sexual assault so I think the best reaction was starting serious threads, not delaying breaking news posts.

                            [–]RedskinsClintHammer 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                            Actually if you had even bothered to read the linked article it was pretty clear that it wasn't him.

                            She was asking for him and yelling at others to get out. People who are sexually abused rarely call out for their attacker. They just read the misleading headline and started fromt here

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                              [–]BroncosJux_ 18 ポイント19 ポイント

                              The bigger we get as a sub, the worse it has gotten. I hope we never become a default.

                              [–]PatriotsEClarkee 8 ポイント9 ポイント

                              266,411 fans. Wow. I remember when they hit the Michigan Stadium capacity milestone.

                              [–]VikingsFootballvike81 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                              Who is the best defensive back in the NFL and why is Wilson not an elite qb?

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                                [–]PatriotsSPACE_LAWYER 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                This is big salary cap news, 7.5 million

                                [–]GiantsGiant_Comeback 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                Maybe we should piss them off and have everybody post the same article and have fun watching them try to delete 500 posts on the same topic.

                                [–]PatriotsMarinlik 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                What I don't get is that other news about former NFL players get to stay here. Stuff like players getting bancrupt and things like that. How is that allowed to be here but not a recent NFL player now indicted for murders that occured before his final season.

                                [–]49erscriblo 8 ポイント9 ポイント

                                If only we had a method of moderating ourselves. Like some sort of democratic method where people vote for the content that gets the most visibility. Naw, that's probably a little too crazy of an idea.

                                [–]Coltsapairofdocs 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                We do. And without fail every single sub-reddit that simply uses voting to determine content turns into memes/blogspam/ lowest common denominator crap.

                                Mods are necessary for a high quality sub-reddit.

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                                  [–]Giantsspeaklouderpls 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                  I understand the point of modding some posts.

                                  But isn't the whole point of up/downvoting to let the community decide what is good material for the sub?

                                  [–]Redskinsfzd 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                  Why would you lie?

                                  [–]ChiefsMiguelGustaBama 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                  I'm getting sick and fucking tired of over moderation of this entire god damn site. It was based on voting. Let the god damn article stay and we'll downvote it to hell if that's what we decide.

                                  [–]Packersadamb10 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                  The mod's here really need to get their act together for what is allowed and not allowed. Based on what's on the front page of this sub, Aaron Hernandez is perfectly acceptable.

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                                    [–]Dolphinshray12 64 ポイント65 ポイント

                                    No idea, one was even from ESPN.

                                    [–]Patriotsglatts[S] 43 ポイント44 ポイント

                                    I've had two taken down, one by ABC News and the other from Boston.com

                                    [–]Jaguarspreludeoflight 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                    Even nfl.com is aggregating the Associated Press post: link.

                                    So now we can't even post the article, even though it's on the league's own website?

                                    [–]PatriotsDRowe13 84 ポイント85 ポイント

                                    It's pretty fucking idiotic for them to keep deleting these posts. This could have football implications, and it isn't like there is a hell of a lot else going in right now in the off-season

                                    [–]BearsOINTMENTS 70 ポイント71 ポイント

                                    I don't know....A Bleacher Report post draft power rankings slideshow post would be refreshing.

                                    [–]BearsSideshow_Slob 19 ポイント20 ポイント

                                    Whoa, I don't know about that one. I think we need another "Who will be the biggest bust/steal of this draft" topic. It's been entire minutes since one of those has been posted.

                                    [–]BearsOINTMENTS 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                    As long as it's in slideshow form, I'm all for it.

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                                      [–]Bearsbluengreen7 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                      Nah man, we need a Mel Kiper and Todd McShay 2015 Mock Draft

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                                        [–]Seahawksjebkerbal 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                        It's a perfect offseason post actually, not sure why the mods are on a rampage.

                                        [–]EaglesRokMeAmadeus 40 ポイント41 ポイント

                                        Is this what North Korea feels like?

                                        [–]Redskinsfzd 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                        That depends...will Dennis Rodman be visiting the mods?

                                        [–]RedskinsUnderscore_Guru 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                        Is he going to get drunk and shit in the corner?

                                        [–]Ramsptabs226 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                        r/pyongyang

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                                          [–]PatriotsMarcurial 39 ポイント40 ポイント

                                          The mods used to say that they deleted Hernandez posts because they had no impact on the NFL, but this can actually have an impact for the Pats cap space if he is convicted, and being indicted is a big step in the right direction

                                          [–]Brownsegg_s 45 ポイント46 ポイント

                                          People on this sub obviously care and want to talk about it so the mods need to stop with their deleting bullshit

                                          [–]Dolphinshray12 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                          I agree with this. If it is on the border of leave/delete for the mods, why not decide by what everyone seems to want? If nobody wanted to hear about it or talk about it, it would get downvoted. It's not a meme or random picture of a player, it's a news article. Posted to a forum about NFL news.

                                          [–]PackersWildPepperoni 18 ポイント19 ポイント

                                          It's on NFL.com, c'mon mods.

                                          [–]Patriotskgorman14 41 ポイント42 ポイント

                                          I'm confused how the Hernandez news isn't fit for the sub but the Greg Hardy news from yesterday is.

                                          [–]Eaglesrasherdk 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                          Greg Hardy is an NFL player.

                                          [–]ThePaddingtonBear 62 ポイント63 ポイント

                                          That's a silly distinction. The only reason that Hernandez isn't a current NFL player is his involvement in the very case we're trying to discuss. Colt Lyerla isn't an NFL player. Discussing him is still appropriate.

                                          EDIT: Why was the Tyler Sash drunken scooter tazing incident deemed fit for discussion? Should we delete the Jim Kelly cancer posts?

                                          [–]FalconsBlainetologist 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                          Thank You!!! Former player news is still welcome here with Jim Kelly and Tyler Sash being the two most recent examples, so why not Hernandez? Its been just under a year he has been out of the league and he is still a relevant topic.

                                          [–]BuccaneersSorryCapsLock 23 ポイント24 ポイント

                                          Neither is Keyshawn Johnson but this post from 3 weeks ago didn't get deleted: http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/23lt7n/keyshawn_johnson_arrested_on_domestic_violence/

                                          Is the new standard that once a player no longer is an active NFL player we no longer allow a post on them? For Hernandez it's still relevant too since he hasn't been found guilty yet.

                                          [–]Vikingsthe_good_dr 8 ポイント9 ポイント

                                          So articles about former players and any brain injuries they may have isn't fit for this sub either because they aren't currently players.

                                          [–]Patriotsjwishbone 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                          I asked this else where and got downvoted into oblivion. What I am confused about is this. If we can only make posts pertaining to a current NFL player, then shouldn't all HOF posts also be removed.

                                          I personally would much prefer a rule where we can discuss news relating to both past and current NFL players/coaches.

                                          I can see why they need the TMZ rule as I don't want to see "Dr.Dre buys Bradys Cali home". But I just don't see whats wrong with HOF posts or any current event news that impacts the NFL.

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                                              [–]PatriotsI_Enjoy_Taffy 79 ポイント80 ポイント

                                              It's fucking stupid that they keep deleting it. This double homicide happened before Hernandez signed his shiny new big deal. Because of this, the Patriots can file a grievance with the NFLPA and free up the salary cap hit that Herandez's contract took up. So this has huge salaray cap implications for the Patriots. Apparently that's not NFL related. Fuck us, right mods?

                                              [–]Patriotsglatts[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント

                                              If Aaron Hernandez goes down for all three murders, he is classified as a serial killer. Which would mean the Patriots had a serial killer playing for them.

                                              [–]Bearstrapper2530 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                              So in a very fucked up way the patriots are happy about this?

                                              [–]Patriotsjwishbone 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                              Kinda...yea. Our 2015 Cap room wasn't looking great with Revis maybe signing etc... So this could really help.

                                              [–]Packerssixner 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                              I think this is their way that you should go back to enjoying your taffy.

                                              This is just speculation though.

                                              [–]BroncosSolus90 23 ポイント24 ポイント

                                              This is as relevant as Jim Kelly news

                                              [–]Patriotspenguininfidel 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                              Jim Kelley counts against the Bills' cap?

                                              [–]PatriotsMarinlik 9 ポイント10 ポイント

                                              I'd say it's even more relevant than the Jim Kelly posts as the Pats could get cap space back if Hernandez is charged for this. So there is still football implications here. With that said both belong here.

                                              [–]Bills_deffer_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                              Kelley

                                              Kelly*

                                              Edit:

                                              [–]Patriotsfandingo 19 ポイント20 ポイント

                                              Which mods are actually deleting the post? Is it only /u/arichi? Why don't we get decent explanations who is deleting this stuff and why? That would allow us to figure out which mods are acting outside the community's accepted standards, and we can decide to remove them.

                                              [–]Eaglesmrmaul558 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                              http://i.imgur.com/7mUQXW3.jpg

                                              [–]DolphinsLobo_Marino 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                              I have no dog in this fight, but just one thing for everyone:

                                              If a mod makes an appeareance here in this thread to explain their reasoning, please don't downvote him. It's kind of stupid that I have to scroll to the bottom of the page because you guys use the downvote button as a way of going "Fuck you, I disagree with you".

                                              They are not benefiting at all from upvotes, and downvoting just kills the point of this thread. Please upvote mods in this sub so that the actual discussion happens.

                                              k tnx

                                              [–]PatriotsLutzExpertTera 33 ポイント34 ポイント

                                              A reminder: whether you agree with the mods or not, do not mass downvote their posts. This buries their reasoning and doesn't further the discussion.

                                              [–]SteelersWeonk 9 ポイント10 ポイント

                                              Good point also that goes for all posts all the time. Down vote is not a disagree button.

                                              [–]CowboysEffYourCouch -1 ポイント0 ポイント

                                              But is an upvote an "agree" button?

                                              [–]49ersKorietsu 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                              Upvote is the "I think this content is insightful/useful and others should see it" button.

                                              [–]CowboysEffYourCouch 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                              Well have an upvote.

                                              [–]Cowboyslettherebedwight 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                              The problem is their reasoning is trash and they're just spewing that this is non NFL news and we're all pissed off that the one thing other than the draft that has happened since March is being removed.

                                              [–]Steelerstheshedres 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                              Yes, but a downvote doesn't mean "this reasoning is trash"; a downvote means "this is not adding to the discussion."

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                                                [–]CowboysEffYourCouch 15 ポイント16 ポイント

                                                http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/05/15/reports-aaron-hernandez-indicted-for-double-murder/pjtncFf6Wn6EWEM8hLoxyM/story.html

                                                [–]PatriotsGalacticToast92 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                                This is fucking stupid. Can any mod actually state a reason as to why the threads keep getting deleted instead of just deleting them and hiding? There are way worse threads on the front page. Talk about ridiculous.

                                                [–]PatriotsJohnSleet 6 ポイント7 ポイント

                                                Heres my feeling, this sub is for us, the majority, 266,413 subscribers. Its not for the 16 mods to dictate to us what we see and dont see. Yes if someone posts NBA material gets on here delete it, but we will also downvote it to all hell, use that as an indicator, but something that can and will certainly have ramifications for an NFL team should stay up. The mods shouldn't pander to their preset rules, yes use them as a guideline however let us discuss the NFL related stuff we want to discuss.

                                                If he doesn't get convicted the patriots lose 7.5 million, if he does they gain 7.5 million. What happens from this point on doesn't matter, the fact that there is movement in his case should be allowed to be posted here.

                                                If there was an update on Jim Kellys cancer battle it would be up here, even if it was just "Kelly enters second round of Chemo", no hate to Jim, incredible player and a seemingly great man. So, why isnt an update in Hernandez case allowed?

                                                [–]BroncosSolus90 8 ポイント9 ポイント

                                                What is this, /r/technology

                                                [–]Coltsapairofdocs 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                Everyone going crazy over this is just another symptom of the problem of the subreddit growing too large.

                                                Here's the thing: The mods have to draw the line somewhere. No matter where they draw the line some one is going to be on the other side of it and unhappy.

                                                There are really only two possible scenarios here:

                                                We have "Nazi" mods who delete too much and people get unhappy (Although in my opinion they do a good job of drawing the line as we don't have these incidents very often.)

                                                OR

                                                We turn into advice animals/ memes/ blogspam.

                                                Do they occasionally go to far? Maybe but they absolutely listen and try to do what's best for the sub.

                                                Also the mods realize there is a huge difference between the vocal minority and the silent majority.

                                                TL;DR: Draw the line somewhere or else memes/crap everywhere and silent majority

                                                [–]RaidersScrags 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                -----E

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                                                -----E

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                                                I brought some extras, in case anyone forgot theirs.

                                                [–]Texansimyourking12 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                So this guy was playing in the NFL after he had killed 2 people? No wonder noone on the Texans wanted to cover him.

                                                [–]BearsNocheese22 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                I hate when Mods delete shit. If it's a re-post that's fine. But how about you let the community decide what should be a thread and what shouldn't

                                                [–]Cowboysgroach21 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                Mine was just taken down!?

                                                [–]BearsThe_Black_Unicorn 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                                Yeah.. Even YOURS

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                                                  [–]PatriotsBD15 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  Its a headline on NFL.com, Its related to the NFL so why wont the mods allow it to be posted?

                                                  [–]Ravensstrangebru 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  Because it's not in the form of a tweet. Quick, find the twitter post!

                                                  [–]Saintsbaldbobbo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                  The mods are going to turn this into r/science

                                                  [–]Packerspaullyjunge 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  No shit. I am bored and want to read NFL news. This is NFL news. I don't care if the comments become a cess pool, I want to know about and hear about this.

                                                  [–]Vikingsadmvp 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  This happened last time all the Hernandez news broke. It's not fucking on /r/news, it's not elsewhere, and he's a fucking former NFL player. Absolutely moronic that we can't talk about it here like we're a bunch of 5 year olds at daycare.

                                                  [–]CowboysGot_Engineers 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  Oh oh, the mods are being all nazi and shit again. Notice how anytime a popular NFL story breaks the news and is deleted by the mods, there is almost immediately a post with people complaining about how they would love to discuss said news?

                                                  And how is a breaking news story, which is on the front page of NFL.com, ESPN, Yahoo and every other major sports site not NFL related?

                                                  [–]SeahawksQuasiContract 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  Hernandez getting indicted is only the top story on SI.com, ESPN.com and PFT, but no way could it possibly be worthy of the sophisticated discussion of r/nfl!!

                                                  OK, now let me get to my next post: "If your team's QB was a roll of sushi, which one would he be?"

                                                  [–]GiantsCaedus 19 ポイント20 ポイント

                                                  DAE le fascist mods?

                                                  [–]JaguarsChrisBartWilliams 24 ポイント25 ポイント

                                                  Literally Hitner IMO.

                                                  [–]Patriotsglatts[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント

                                                  I mean I can understand when they talk about tabloid things like TMZ articles, but myself and other fans have been submitting posts from reliable news sources AND this could have an impact on the Patriots cap space.

                                                  [–]Eaglesext2523 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                  I think at least one thread should remain given to complete the saga. But I understand mods deleting every other thread. We only need one. Continually submitting the same story and then crying wolf isn't going to accomplish anything. Did you at try to get an explanation from the mods?

                                                  [–]Patriotsbigsbeclayton 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                  Per /u/rasherdk

                                                  Every mod is removing them because it is directly against the rules on non-NFL news. Rules which have been created through discussion with the community over the years. He is not an NFL player, and this news about a criminal case does not influence the NFL.

                                                  [–]AFClordmadone 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                  I usually support the Mods..but that logic is shaky. Not being an NFL player..I can understand that but his indictment affects the Pats recouping money for their cap space which inherently does affect NFL matters.

                                                  [–]Patriotsglatts[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                  That's why I created this post. I figured if enough people voted it up, they might respond.

                                                  [–]Eaglessomecleverphrase 8 ポイント9 ポイント

                                                  There are literly Hitners

                                                  [–]Patriotscubeofsoup 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                  wake up sheeple

                                                  [–]TitansCiscoR 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                  my fedora literally does not tip to these mods

                                                  RIP CARL SAGAN

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                                                    [–]ChargersSunriseSurprise 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                    Wrong sub for it obviously - needs to go in /r/patriotscapspace/.

                                                    [–]salmonsushilover 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                    fuck the mods

                                                    [–]Buccaneersaweebz 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                    Like seriously? It was down in less than a minute. How is this not related to the sub? There are a ton of shitty posts on the front page now and when actual news happens, they don't know what to do.

                                                    [–]Ravensgbatt1024 4 ポイント5 ポイント

                                                    One day I hope to be as powerful as a reddit mod. Sooooo jealous of their power.

                                                    [–]49ersxCHRISTIANx 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                    This is pretty pathetic mods. It's the offseason, this is news.

                                                    [–]Seahawksholierthanmao 2 ポイント3 ポイント

                                                    Off-season post guidelines need to be relaxed. During the season, I am all for keeping it tidy. But currently, all posts here are pretty much bullshit. Pre-draft, it was the same pre-draft speculative bullshit and stupid question threads. Post-draft, it's even worse.

                                                    Something interesting happened regarding a player who, until very recently, was a NFL player. Let us talk about it with other football fans! There is not going to be a better place for the type of discussion people want than this sub.

                                                    [–]PatriotsMarinlik 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                    I get that he isn't in the NFL any more. But if the news that team X might get a cap relieve of $7,5m for some random reason in a future year then that would get posted here. It affects the league. So do this as the Pats could get cap relieve of $7,5m. He was a well known NFL player. This belongs in /r/NFL. Or else all news about former NFL players should be removed.

                                                    [–]TexansVenUSA386 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                    If it's important enough for me to receive notifications from the NFL Mobile app it should be allowed to be posted here. Mods are killing this sub.

                                                    [–]BroncosSolus90 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                    /r/sports

                                                    http://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/25mo11/hernandez_indicted_in_12_double_homicide/

                                                    [–]Texansillegal_deagle 49 ポイント50 ポイント

                                                    Fuck that sub, I don't want to discuss it with them.

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                                                      [–]NFLthisis887 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

                                                      I'm with the Mods on this one. News of charges alone is not related to the NFL in any way.

                                                      [–]49ersSTDemons 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      Exactly. A bunch of drama queens. An indictment or details regarding the process of law that an ex-NFL player is experiencing is of absolutely no interest me.

                                                      I hope the mod doesn't appease the people calling for this TMZ type content. I'll quickly un-subscribe from this sub.

                                                      [–]Saintsnunoyo 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      Sooooo guy who was NFL player until a year ago when he was arrested for homicide is indicted for homicide and that's not NFL news, apparently. Also, none of us actually want to read or talk about it.

                                                      [–]Saintspottersquash 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                      I think they already called for a end to the Hernandez news. How do the charges impact their cap space?

                                                      Edit: Please do not downvote the mods trying to explain their reasoning. We ask a question, they give an answer and the answer is lost? Its against the rules of reddit, this sub and common sense.

                                                      [–]Saintsnunoyo 10 ポイント11 ポイント

                                                      What's the reasoning behind deciding that we're just done posting recent developments in an ongoing NFL-related story?

                                                      [–]PatriotsDRowe13 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                      Especially when it might have cap implications

                                                      [–]Saintsnunoyo 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                                      Well to be fair, we need room to have another post asking an inane hypothetical question about Michael Sam.

                                                      [–]PatriotsMarinlik 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      Or what kind of ice cream our QB would be. Important stuff like that.

                                                      [–]BrownsYZ1DRFL 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                      To be fair the Hernandez updates were getting pretty stupid. Things like "Hernandez got in a prison fight" and "Hernandez threatened a guard."

                                                      [–]PatriotsSection37 7 ポイント8 ポイント

                                                      Now the Pats can argue that he violated the language of his contract.

                                                      http://www.patspulpit.com/2014/5/15/5720396/aaron-hernandez-indicted-in-2012-double-homicide

                                                      [–]Packerslolcutler 5 ポイント6 ポイント

                                                      it could be argued since he killed the 2 people in Boston before signing the contract that it wasn't done in good faith and that would void it. if it is voided then the pats have a very solid argument to get an increase in salary cap to compensate for the money they had to pay out even though aaron was in jail

                                                      [–]BrownsLarpMaster2000 3 ポイント4 ポイント

                                                      The contract could possibly be voided and the Pats would get the cap hit from cutting Hernandez removed.

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                                                        [–]Eaglesisurud 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        I'm not saying I hate the mods but if Hitler, Mao, Stalin and the mods were in a room and I had only 2 bullets, both will be fired at the mods.

                                                        [–]LionsReaganSmashK 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                        What I'm impressed by is how fast they're deleting them. Usually the "Le Kluwe donated 5000 fedoras to the atheists against cancer foundation" posts take 6-12 hours to get deleted.

                                                        At least they're being proactive about their rules now.

                                                        [–]Saintsserenity_suppository 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        And yet posts about retired players remain up...

                                                        [–]RaidersCashburn83 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                        How else can the Mods show their true power?

                                                        [–]Patriotspatsfan3983 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        Even if this has no impact on the Pats' cap space or any other financial ramifications, how is this not worthy of this sub?

                                                        A former star player faces three murder charges and that's not news? I think the point is we're here in /r/nfl because we're fans of the NFL. Hence, this news is important for a vast majority of the people here.

                                                        I don't get it.

                                                        [–]Panthersjesusinabottle 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        Yeah no defending this one

                                                        [–]Patriotshawt 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                        How COULD this possibly affect the Patriots cap space? I'm curious.

                                                        [–]RedskinsWienererer 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        He signed the contract after this alleged murder, meaning that they could claim the contract he signed afterwards should not count.

                                                        [–]Patriotsdavid98900 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        We could potentially get all of his guaranteed money back from when he signed his contract since it was signed after the incident. Therefore the contract wasn't signed in good faith, and is void for the most part.

                                                        [–]milkandcoffee 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                        Its about football and its serious not a meme for example should be allowed.

                                                        [–]TexansFootman20 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        What does being Indicted mean? can someone explain that to me

                                                        [–]JetsThatSomaBelt 1 ポイント2 ポイント

                                                        A formal accusation.

                                                        [–]zellyman 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        HERE WE GO

                                                        *cracks open Bud Light*

                                                        [–]PatriotsI_Joe_Cooper 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        I thought the entire point of having moderators for subreddits is to remove offensive content or any content that is completely off-topic... why can't they just let the upvote/downvote system decide which NFL-based topics are /r/nfl frontpage worthy? If it's posted here and has to do with the NFL in some aspect, let the people decide if it's a subject matter worthy of discussion.

                                                        [–]ChiefsCoderHawk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

                                                        http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/25mp3e/report_aaron_hernandez_indicted_for_2012/

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