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Feminists really do not like it when others use rape accusations as causally ad they do. (np.reddit.com)

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[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -8 ポイント-7 ポイント

Red Pill poster

"lusts" over 16 year olds, insinuates all men do

Suggests that the age of consent decreases from 16, says anything less is "criminalising male sexuality"

Yep, it's on Men's Rights

EDIT: Oh yeah, and that thing where feminists say that all men are rapists, that doesn't happen outside of your strawman.

[–]Wordshark 3 ポイント4 ポイント

EDIT: Oh yeah, and that thing where feminists say that all men are rapists, that doesn't happen outside of your strawman.

Before I bother hunting for a link, would you count "all PIV is rape"-style feminists?

[–]IWillRapeJohnScalzi 2 ポイント3 ポイント

"All men are rapists and that’s all they are" - Marilyn French

Literally two seconds in google. You are a liar.

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

You mean the character in her book, a fictional person who is a purposefully vitriolic straw-manning of feminism. And even then it wasn't an explicit reference to actual rape. Good choice of quote.

[–]IWillRapeJohnScalzi 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Okay, you got me with that one. You're still wrong, though.

"Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." - Andrea Dworkin

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Again, that doesn't say that all men are rapists, it says that patriarchy supports a male superiority over women, which could manifest itself as rape or exploitation. It does not necessarily say that this is the case in the world as it is, just that a patriarchal society promotes this.

[–]IWillRapeJohnScalzi 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Oh yeah right, I forgot it only referred to males who are women's sons. I need to check my cis privilege.

And that it only means those males are rapists under the Patriarchy, and we all know the patriarchy hasn't existed since the 19th century.

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

Oh yeah right, I forgot it only referred to males who are women's sons. I need to check my cis privilege.

Even ironically it makes no sense.

And that it only means those males are rapists under the Patriarchy, and we all know the patriarchy hasn't existed since the 19th century.

And no, that's not what I said either. People can be rapists regardless, but the idea was the a patriarchy places a male superiority over women, that could manifest itself as abuse. Whether or not you agree with it, that's the point she was making, not that all men are rapists.

[–]IWillRapeJohnScalzi 2 ポイント3 ポイント

"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

Again, not saying that all men rape, but that a rape culture places men in a superior position, similar to the Dworkin quote. I don't necessarily agree with this, but again it does not say that all men rape.

[–]TRIGGERNG_INTENSFIES 1 ポイント2 ポイント

[–]5th_Law_of_RoboticsResident Robocop[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Isn't it feminist dogma that the patriarchy runs everything? If all men under the patriarchy are rapists that means all men are rapists according to your faith.

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

No it's not. That's a strawman mate.

[–]5th_Law_of_RoboticsResident Robocop[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

So we don't live under a patriarchy then?

[–]TheBaby-SittersCoven -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

If that's what the patriarchy entailed, maybe, but that's not what's being said at all.

It's saying that under a patriarchal society, man's power over women could manifest itself as rape. Not that all men are rapists, just that some exploit their societal wealth for abusive purposes.

[–]MarioAntoinette 2 ポイント3 ポイント

An ideology is not the same as a gender.

Plenty of feminists are happy to paint all MRAs as abusive. You literally just did it in your post.