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Watch_Dogs 1080p/60fps confirmed (playstation.com)

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[–]BigFatDucks [score hidden]

I hope this is true, it will shut those fucking pc gamers up.

Wow the amount of pc gamers in a ps4 sub is ridiculous.

[–]dispatcher_83SonicScrwdrivr [score hidden]

Seriously? Any game that comes out for PC will ALWAYS look better on PC. Nothing will shut up the pro PC people. Best to not even care about those arguments and just care about the game.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

But it still looks better on PC.

[–]macklemold [score hidden]

not on all PC's

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

It's going to look better on a good PC. You can try all kinds of mental gymnastics to convince yourself that that's not true but you'd still be wrong.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

A good pc that costs more than three times the cost of a PS4, maybe more.

[–]Yoatzinn [score hidden]

My PC doesn't cost three times the cost of a PS4 but will easily run WD at 1080@60FPS.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

No one's arguing that. The point is that he's trying to say "HA! In your face PC gamers! We have a game that meets PC standards from half a decade ago! What now?" It's ridiculous.

[–]darkbluto [score hidden]

I could build a computer thats worth as much as a PS4 and still run Watchdogs or any "next-gen" game better than a PS4.

[–]TerdSmash [score hidden]

No you couldn't. I love this mentality.

[–]Mr_faptastic12 [score hidden]

You can...I recommend you visit /r/buildapc if you don't beleive me.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

The graphics card alone would take up 75% of the price. You would need at least an R9 280x or GTX770 to get 1080p @ 60fps. Then you still need all the other parts. I see the whole "I can build a better pc" argument everytime, no one ever gets wins. The game on PC will never ever be optimized enough for it to run as good on lesser hardware.

EDIT: Top end system requirments for Watch Dogs is 8gb ram, Core i7, and a GTX780/R9 290. Yeah good luck building a PC for less than $399. GPU alone costs more than the PS4.

[–]noonoo12 [score hidden]

What if you had a mid-range GPU and reduced the settings to low-medium? 1080p@60fps is achievable on many different rigs no matter the cost.

Edit: unless you're talking about completely maxing it out?

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

That is his entire argument though. He is claiming he can build a PC that will run games better and look better than on PS4.

[–]noonoo12 [score hidden]

Oh sorry. I didn't see that.

[–]BigFatDucks [score hidden]

Pc gamers are fucking idiots and don't know facts, they throw around loads of bullshit and think they can build a pc thats cheaper than a ps4 and performs better even though it's not true. Then they use the arguement about their games being cheaper, who gives a shit that's a different arguement.

[–]kasimin [score hidden]

show me your build here, I'll analyze it

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

You didn't start with a good pc, you just said pc. That means i could have a fucking 7770 in there and it would pump out Watchdogs better then a PS4? i think not.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

Is your only real rebuttal here "Yeah, it would be better on a gaming pc but not if I run it on my eMachines laptop!!!!11!"? That's pretty weak.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

Nice, just down vote and dont actually respond. very mature bud.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

Who's downvoting? You shouldn't assume that someone downvoted you because then you look like a jackass when they didn't. I stopped responding because I felt there were better ways to spend my time.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

how is that weak?

You need to clearly specify what your talking about.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

http://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/2579bi/watch_dogs_1080p60fps_confirmed/chef0tr

See that. You are going to be shelling out 3x+ the price of a PS4 just to build a computer that will run Watch Dogs maxed out.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

You're the only one bringing up price here.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

Price and quality are positively related in this market, they go hand and hand. With any market for that matter.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

Your insinuating price when you said

It's going to look better on a good PC.

and then

Is your only real rebuttal here "Yeah, it would be better on a gaming pc but not if I run it on my eMachines laptop!!!!11!"? That's pretty weak.

I'm just providing facts. Yeah it will look fantastic on PC, better than on console, could run 1080, 1200p, hell 4k at 60fps. It's still gonna cost you an arm and a leg to run it.

[–]macklemold [score hidden]

what kind of person plays a console game on a computer

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

Lots of people? There's literally no difference between the way a console game plays and the way a PC game plays.

[–]macklemold [score hidden]

wow TIL.

You'd think they'd tell more people about it

[–]H3000Hemza-3000 [score hidden]

Guess it didn't shut them up.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

We really just try to help you realize there's cheaper and more powerful options than consoles. It's not bragging.

[–]xRagingRussianxRagingRussian [score hidden]

So.. you could build a PC to run this on max settings, Cheaper then what you would pay for a PS4 and Watchdogs.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

You do realize that the recommended specs include an eight core cpu? that right there is going to cost you at least 175 if your lucky as hell to find a decent sale. Then a video card better then the 78XX series the PS4 is based off of, so your figure around 150 if your find a good sale. Then you NEED Windows to play this game so thats another 80 if you find a sale, case, memory, mother board, case, monitor, your are looking at 600+.

So no, it is not cheaper to build a pc that can max it out.

Also note that those are the recommended settings, you need something higher then those (i.e 16 gb instead of 8gb of memory, and prob a 3gb+ GPU.)

[–]halupki [score hidden]

Just so we are clear, you do realize the ps4 version will be nowhere near max pc settings, right?

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

So.. you could build a PC to run this on max settings, Cheaper then what you would pay for a PS4 and Watchdogs.

This is question at hand, no one stated the ps4 version would be able to play at maxed settings. the question is can you build a pc that can play the game on max settings for the price of a PS4 and the answer is no.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor $139.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard $53.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.00 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card $112.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill Stallion 400W ATX Power Supply $19.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $499.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-10 10:20 EDT-0400

add $15 for OS. Beats ps4. Sorry.

[–]laddergoat89 [score hidden]

TIL that $515 with no means of input (M&K) is the same price as $399 with a controller.

[–]notevenaverage [score hidden]

And no os or bluray player

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I was going with the $500 price guy said, but it's cool. $399 is pretty cheap for what's inside the ps4, definitely. That's why games are so expensive and you have to pay for online play, however. It's a fact, backed up with piles of evidence, that pc is cheaper overall and much more powerful. I just feel bad when people have blinders on.

[–]laddergoat89 [score hidden]

I just feel bad when people have blinders on.

You were making a valid point until you said this childish, elitist rubbish.

[–]kasimin [score hidden]

  • R7 260X is less powerful than PS4 GPU (R7 265) and only have half of its memory bus width.
  • Power supply is not 80+ while estimated wattage is 329W which is more than 82% of 400W nominal powersupply nameplate. This will make this build underpowered
  • typical PCmasterrace build. Assuming that everyone have input device or controller hiding in their basement
  • did you mean, PIRATES $15 windows key from softwareswap?

[–]halupki [score hidden]

http://i.imgur.com/sNRHGpV.png

Notice I chose a comparable gpu, that is at least slightly better than the ps4 apu. I for one, would rather have dedicated graphics.

Also, made that build in 30 seconds. I'm sure there are things that aren't perfect. Just demonstrating that you don't have to be a sheep and use what Sony tells you that you should use. Sure, a PS4 is cheap for the parts it uses. No denying that. You'll also pay way more for games and online service. Really, when all is said and done, after a year or so, costs should be fairly comparable, but you're also at the beginning of this console's life.

I sold my ps4 and don't regret it for a second. There's nothing wrong with PS4. It's a great system and I get why people love it. Just don't be delusional and think it's anywhere near the current pc scene.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

Still need a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and no you can not get windows for 15 bucks.

PLus this rig will not max out Watch Dogs, which is what the whole conversation is about.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I really wasn't talking about maxing it out. To max out watchdogs, you'll need a mammoth of a pc. Watchdogs maxed out and Watchdogs on ps4 are not the same thing. Not even close. You can certainly run the game better on a comparitively priced pc. I'll even concede and say it'd be hard, if not impossible to beat a ps4 dollar for dollar.

If we are talking about one game - if you could only play watchdogs, and no other games existed - PS4 is the way to go.

[–]xRagingRussianxRagingRussian [score hidden]

That's what I mean why pay $800 - $900 for a PC build to just look 10%-15% better in graphics. If you have the money by all means but to me its not worth the time(waiting for the sales).

[–]AUTOMATON_FUCKER [score hidden]

Peasant please. Look below for a sub 500$ system that runs it at Max

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

http://www.ign.com/wikis/watch-dogs/PC_System_Requirements

Look at the max settings, now please be quiet, your just so wrong its hilarious.

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

You pretentious "pc master race" 12 year olds are too funny.

you wont find windows for 15 bucks bud.

Also monitor, keyboard, mouse.

So your actually lookin at 600~ USD.

[–]AUTOMATON_FUCKER [score hidden]

Well call me when a ps4 is bundled with a TV. and SteamOS is free.

By the way don't use 12 year old as an insult,It's telling about you

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

? People have uses for TV's outside of a PS4 and i will bet that many more people have tv's in their house then pc monitors.

Why would you need a pc monitor if you have no pc?

The same logic does not apply for a tv, because people watch cable, their are other uses for it.

Nice try but your gonna need to think of something else for a rebuttal my friend.

[–]AUTOMATON_FUCKER [score hidden]

Peasantry overload . May gaben's light be dim for you

[–]Throwtitsjaydee413 [score hidden]

Except i am a steam user as well :) Enjoy life.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

If you were to buy all of your games on sale on PC and take advantage of bundles, then yes. You would save a great deal of money on PC.

For example, I bought a 360 and 25-30 games. I spent around the same price on a PC and >100 games.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

You do know that games go on sale for consoles also?

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I just bought arkham origins, sleeping dogs, and far cry 3 for under $15 total on pc.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

Ok seriously, how the fuck did you get Watch Dogs for under $15?

[–]halupki [score hidden]

Bc I'm an idiot and meant to type sleeping dogs.

[–]James1o1oEpicJames93 [score hidden]

I'll forgive you ha.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

Not anywhere near the same quality or frequency as PC sales.

[–]xRagingRussianxRagingRussian [score hidden]

That's not my question... I have a gaming PC but graphics don't make a game to me. I'll answer my own question. There is NO way to build a PC or buy one from the web already built for nowhere near $500 that will run Watchdogs at max.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

If you're going to be buying a PS4 just to play Watch Dogs and never buy any other games then, sure, it's a better deal.

[–]DarthGrabass [score hidden]

Or if you're going to buy a PS4 and only buy all the exclusives that will never come out on PC.

[–]Sureiyaa [score hidden]

That's why I bought a PS4.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

Point being? A ps4 won't be running at max pc settings. Perhaps not even medium. For 500, you can certainly build a pc that will run it better than a ps4.

[–]xRagingRussianxRagingRussian [score hidden]

I honestly want to see that. I wanna see a complete PC build $500 budget actually run Watch Dogs at 1080p at 60 fps.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor $139.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard $53.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.00 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card $112.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill Stallion 400W ATX Power Supply $19.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $499.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-10 10:20 EDT-0400

Add $15 or so for a windows 7 key on r/softwareswap, and you are a hair over $500, but this will also outperform a ps4.

For a fewbucks more, this will also crush a ps4

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.97 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $44.99 @ Newegg
Memory A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $64.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card $154.00 @ Newegg
Case Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $34.99 @ Micro Center
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $513.92
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-10 10:27 EDT-0400

[–]joshfebjoshfebs [score hidden]

No input devices though

[–]kasimin [score hidden]

  • i3-4130 paired with R9 270? do you really build with this combination?
  • Power supply is not 80+ while estimated wattage is 329W which is more than 82% of 400W nominal powersupply nameplate. This will make this build underpowered
  • where is Optical drive in second build?
  • did you know the different between PC master racing and PC gamer? PC gamer didn't promote pirates windows from softwareswap

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I was just grabbing some things quickly and definitely made some dumb choices, so, my bad. Surely, it would be hard to beat a ps4 for price. It's a lot of bang for the buck, no doubt. I really don't know if it can be beat in price upfront. But you can get damned close. You save with pc in the long run, and that's a bit harder of a sell.

[–]notevenaverage [score hidden]

A p4 and watch dogs is £400 build me a pc with blueray drive and os for the same that will beat it.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

Easily.

[–]notevenaverage [score hidden]

Go on then

[–]halupki [score hidden]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor $139.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard $53.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.00 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card $112.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill Stallion 400W ATX Power Supply $19.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $499.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-10 10:20 EDT-0400

add $15 for an os key on r/softwareswap

[–]notevenaverage [score hidden]

Thats more expensive and it doesnt include watch dogs. :D

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I'll make this concession. If you only ever play one game, Watch Dogs, there is no way to beat the ps4 in price. Performance for sure, but not price.

[–]notevenaverage [score hidden]

And no blueray player

[–]halupki [score hidden]

*bluray

Agree, it was a sloppy built slapped together quickly. It'd be tough to beat a ps4 in price building your own pc. You'll get pretty close though. And then you'll save $100s in game prices if you are an avid gamer.

[–]kasimin [score hidden]

  • R7 260X is less powerful than PS4 GPU (R7 265) and only have half of its memory bus width.
  • Power supply is not 80+ while estimated wattage is 329W which is more than 82% of 400W nominal powersupply nameplate. This will make this build underpowered
  • typical PCmasterrace build. Assuming that everyone have input device or controller hiding in their basement
  • did you mean, PIRATES $15 windows key from softwareswap?
  • "A p4 and watch dogs is £400 build me a pc with blueray drive and os for the same that will beat it.". Where are they?

[–]halupki [score hidden]

Good to know that you know your stuff. Just threw a quick build together to show the price can be pretty close. Sure, you'll get more bang for your buck on the ps4. You'll just get more bang on the pc.

[–]Small3y [score hidden]

Looking for a new PC, please go ahead

[–]BigFatDucks [score hidden]

It is bragging, pc gamers can't just say their point, they have to point out that consoles are shit.

[–]halupki [score hidden]

I don't think they are shit. I have had them for years. They are great, and the PS4 is easily the best console of all time. It's just that pcs are "better" in a number of ways. I get that consoles are easier and less fuss, I really really do.

[–]adam672 [score hidden]

You guys are the Jehovas Witnesses of gaming. Stop trying to convince us to build a PC, as this is a fucking ps4 forum.

[–]macklemold [score hidden]

literally everyone in this thread already owns a computer so they likely already know about it's uses.

..awkward!

[–]meimnor [score hidden]

This pretty much just confirms why it was downgraded.

[–]Small3y [score hidden]

It'll look better on the PC argument.

So build a £400 PC.

In 5 years have that PC run a multiplatform game.