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[–]Dennaldo 29 ポイント30 ポイント

  1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
  2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
  3. ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.

People who violate these rules have no business owning a gun.

[–]sano7 15 ポイント16 ポイント

Saw this on the news yesterday morning. Tragedy rooted in carelessness and stupidity.

[–]LinguistHere 4 ポイント5 ポイント

This is third degree murder, not a "tragedy." I don't believe for a second that the nephew somehow reached around and pulled the trigger.

[–]juicenx 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I think the article is saying that the uncle pulled the trigger when his nephew reached for the gun.

[–]LinguistHere 3 ポイント4 ポイント

"Olm said that when the nephew reached out for the gun, he pulled the trigger." I didn't notice the ambiguity-- you may be right. I think my reading (that the nephew pulled the trigger) is more salient, and the comments on the news article suggest that other people are reading it that way, too. Still, it's really implausible that the nephew somehow pulled the trigger, so I think your interpretation is probably correct, and that it's just sloppy writing.

[–]juicenx 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Well, you are the linguist...

[–]wretcheddawn[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

That's how I read it as well.

[–]sano7 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Not a tragedy? I think the family of the victim would state otherwise.

[–]LinguistHere -1 ポイント0 ポイント

"Tragedy" usually implies something that couldn't have reasonably been prevented, like a tornado, a cancer diagnosis, or a plane crash caused by a fluke malfunction. Going back to the Greek origin of the term, "tragedy" involves bad things which are fated to happen to someone and which are beyond anyone's power to stop. That's what I'm responding to.

Admittedly, in real life, there's no clear division between what's preventable and what isn't, but this is as blatant a case of completely-preventable death as I can imagine.

Edit: You know what, looking into this more, it turns out that I'm mistaken. This article is illuminating: "It is, then a “tragic error", i.e., a wrong action committed in ignorance of its nature, effect, etc., which is the starting point of a causally connected train of events ending in disaster." So a tragedy, classically speaking, is a preventable disaster that transpires as the final result of a small mistake.

[–]sano7 2 ポイント3 ポイント

From Merriam-Webster:

trag·e·dy noun \ˈtra-jə-dē\

: a very bad event that causes great sadness and often involves someone's death

: a very sad, unfortunate, or upsetting situation : something that causes strong feelings of sadness or regret

: a play, movie, etc., that is serious and has a sad ending (such as the death of the main character)

I'd rather not argue the semantics in light of this child's death, but the usage of tragedy is valid in this instance.

[–]Revons 12 ポイント13 ポイント

Always treat a gun as it is loaded. This shouldn't of happened :(

[–]E-werd 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Come on, man, cardinal rule of gun safety. Always treat a gun as if it's loaded and don't point it at anything that you're not ready to destroy.

The boy already paid for his carelessness, now he has to pay and the family effectively lost two members.

[–]g0dl355 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

Great, that funeral procession is gonna really fuck traffic.