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[–]Larry-Man [score hidden]

Modern feminism is supposed to be about equal rights. Some women call themselves feminists and go overboard. Egalitarianism is the basis for feminism. Third wave feminism is something I struggle with myself, I am not sure how I identify. I do know that I have feminist friends and anti-feminist friends but when it comes down to it we mostly agree on the same things.

[–]coogzzz [score hidden]

If the basis for modern feminism is equal rights, why do they call it feminism instead of equal rights?

edit: If I get downvoted just for asking questions, I'm not going to have a discussion with you.

[–]xxjimxx[S] [score hidden]

I guess in most issues of equal rights except divorce and teaching and child-care, women get the short straw. If men were more discriminated, maybe an equal rights cause could be called "man-ism".

[–]east_side_sunsets [score hidden]

Plus although we have a way to go, we have come along way - you have to remember that when the movement first got off the ground in the UK for example , we didn't even have the right to vote or to work - of course most of the focus then would be on women's issues, because men had all the power, so the name was particularly appropriate then.

Sauce for the early feminism comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-wave_feminism#United_Kingdom

[–]coogzzz [score hidden]

Thanks, I see what you mean. Do you think that men are discriminated against or stereotyped as a result of the feminist movement?

[–]Romatix [score hidden]

Maybe masculinism? :)

[–]xxjimxx[S] [score hidden]

There already is the Men's Rights Movement, but looking at the subreddit it seems like a better idea in concept than in execution.

[–]intirb [score hidden]

To be fair, /r/mensrights doesn't really qualify as the "execution" of the men's rights movement.

[–]Romatix [score hidden]

It was a joke to answer your proposed "man-ism".

[–]Larry-Man [score hidden]

It started out as the suffragette movement and other women's rights movements that dealt with the massive inequalities when women couldn't vote. Currently the major issues are rights to contraception and to abortion. Other issues are changing the perceptions of women (and men) in society. While these issues are no longer major milestones they are specific to feminist equality.

It's the same reason that LGBTQ issues are about equal rights but they are more concerned with specific issues around heteronormativity.

[–]JennThereDoneThat [score hidden]

This is a question feminists are constantly asked. The name of the movement has been feminism for a very long time. The movement is about equal rights, but the focus is on women, and there is nothing wrong with that.

[–]coogzzz [score hidden]

So why not call it equal rights for women? One large movement is stronger than several divided movements.

[–]JennThereDoneThat [score hidden]

Feminism is a large, strong movement. I don't see any reason to change the name. Feminism is a word with a rich historic meaning, and the name Equal Rights for Women is longer and has no history. There is nothing wrong with the name Feminism. Why do you think the name needs changed?

[–]sroyalty [score hidden]

Think you just proved downvotes are warranted, and more forthcoming, with calling everyone here "bitches".

[–]kekabillie [score hidden]

I think because feminism targets equal rights through inequalities that affect women. The more specific you are with a cause the easier it is to target legally, politically and socially.

[–]coogzzz [score hidden]

Which inequalities are you referring to?

[–]kekabillie [score hidden]

Perhaps you shouldn't call people bitches if you want a rational and reasonable discussion.

But in answer to your question, it would depend on the country or state the individual is living in. Access to abortions and birth control, responses to rape, gender roles, and workplace inequalities are frequent topics of discussion and activism from what I have seen.

[–]Romatix [score hidden]

The term and movement arose from a deep disparity in rights between men and women, and thus focused on bringing women up to par in social equality. The status of women has greatly improved since the beginning of the movement, but sexual inequality is still largely feminine in many regards. I imagine that the term might fade if true equality is ever achieved, and be replaced just by "equal rights" or egalitarianism.

Edit: Grammar.