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[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction -9 ポイント-8 ポイント

Ok I'll bite, can you kindly explain how an American could be charged for a crime in Canada?

[–]10footbargepollButters did nothing wrong! 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Because extradition treaties work both ways?

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Extradition of a US Citizen because they operated a game server that happen to colocate in another country that facilitated no crime? Reaching a bit much are we?

[–]10footbargepollButters did nothing wrong! 0 ポイント1 ポイント

explain how an American could be charged for a crime in Canada?

You asked a general question, I gave a general answer.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I thought it was clear that any statements here would be under the pretense of having direct applicability to the situation at hand. Clearly that assumption should have been clarified..

[–]mrgerbicalmost died to a skittle[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I'm not a lawyer. Nor are the admins. Which is my point.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You don't need to be an attorney to know that a "crime" 'up there' would have no ramifications 'down here'. Edited: added quotes.

[–]mrgerbicalmost died to a skittle[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

It could affect the server being up.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Not really, there is a layer of abstraction between the server owner and players. How do XBOX Live servers manage to stay online no matter how many times my mother and underage sister have been fucked by people on it?

[–]mrgerbicalmost died to a skittle[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I'm not a lawyer dude so I don't know. And neither are you.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Neither of us need to be, this isn't some complex issue.

Case law precedent: Blumenthal v. Drudge, 992 F. Supp. 44 (D.D.C. 1998).

Case law precedent: Reno v. ALCU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997),

Actual law: Communications Decency Act of 1996 (CDA), which states that no ISP "shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider."

[–]mrgerbicalmost died to a skittle[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント

That doesn't mean they won't stop hosting them. The people owning the servers may have morals and also not want the negative publicity and could certainly kick them.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 3 ポイント4 ポイント

While I would put the probability of a game server host dropping a client as a result of poor behavior of players at an impossibly lower chance than a typical CivCraft player getting laid.. I will say you could make this argument; but you didn't do so in your original post, which is what I am addressing. Your main point, and correct me if I'm wrong, was that the admins should have acted because they are not attorneys, so if there was any possible chance of legal ramification they should have acted in the way they did. My response was simply that you don't need to be an attorney to clearly see that a) there was no actual crime committed as nobody was underage. b) there is a layer of abstraction of liability for server operators.

[–]mrgerbicalmost died to a skittle[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント

And you are missing my point in that you cannot be sure because you are not a lawyer.

[–]ribagi 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Some of the people who acted might live in Canada.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Yes, but no crime was committed. The ban was ONLY to set a precedence, as stated by the admin teams. There are no potential legal ramifications from this specific scenario.

[–]ribagi -1 ポイント0 ポイント

If there was a crime that was committed, the ones who live in Canada would be arrested with out any question.

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 1 ポイント2 ポイント

There wasn't, so what point are you trying to make? And to say an arrest would have been made over comments or actions in a video game is asinine. How many arrests have been recorded as a result of someone tebagging an underage kid in Halo. Zero.

[–]ribagi 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You have no idea what you are talking about. Try seducing a minor on the internet and when the judge asks you what the hell you were thinking try defending yourself with "Tebagging in Halo".

[–]CivcraftMafiaall about that mobaction 1 ポイント2 ポイント

You call this act 'seducing a minor'? A non-minor willingly played along and thought it was comical..