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“Once you date an Asian girl, you will never go back.” Men often hear something similar to this from other men who have dated Asian women, meaning women directly from Asia, not American women of Asian descent. This is important because American women can be completely obnoxious and entitled. When an American-born Asian women behaves in that manner, it is actually tenfold more annoying.
Living in Hawaii, I am surrounded by Asian and American women. So I have tried to take advantage of this and go out on dates—if you can still call them that—with Asian women as well as American women. I immediately noticed stark differences in the way they conduct themselves.
Pre Date
Arranging the date is far easier with Asian women. The Asian woman
listens and happily accommodates with any recommendations. She is just glad to be in your company and whatever plans you make are almost irrelevant to simply being with you.
The American women is indecisive, whiny and wants you to make all the decisions. If you offer up something she does not approve of she will say so, but not offer any alternatives, not to mention the 30% chance she will flake all together. As a man, you are already annoyed with her but you move forward with the date anyway.
Appearance
In Hawaii things are naturally quite casual, but for a first date you still step up your dress a little. At least some jeans and a button up. This is Hawaii, again, and unless you have been here you have no idea how casual it is. George Clooney said it best in The Descendents, “Some of the most powerful people in Hawaii look like bums and stunt men”.
However, Asian women will actually tend to overdress a bit. But when she opens her door in a nice sundress, hair and makeup done in a subtle but striking manner, combined with the pleasant aroma produced by her favorite perfume or body spray, you are fine with it. You feel good knowing she put forth effort to look good for you, for herself and doing so in tasteful way. You are proud to have her on your arm.
Your American date meets you at the bar or in the parking lot of her condo. If she dressed up at all it is in a dress too tight and too short for anyone not earning meth money on a street corner. She has on so much makeup that Bozo the Clown would be resentful. In Hawaii she will usually just show up with her hair pulled back in a ponytail. Maybe some jean shorts a size too small and a tank top or t-shirt with a bra that shoves her tits up into her throat. Revealing much more while simultaneously making her less attractive. Sure, you want to bang her, but that is all.
Conversation
So begins the general conversation one would expect to engage in on a first date. For an Asian women this means listening and politely asking questions, while showing a genuine interest. Again, she is sincerely happy to be in your presence and is actually quite enthralled. She doesn’t interrupt or make judgmental comments. She wants to know more about
you, not your income or how you can benefit
her. She will drink water, maybe a martini or craft beer you recommend. Conversation is pleasant and she answers all your questions with a refreshing authenticity.
The American woman immediately orders a draft beer or maybe a shot of Jameson. At the very least the latest trendy drink, perhaps a mojito. She wants to talk about her and only her. When you talk about yourself, she interrupts and somehow still makes it about her. Negative comments pepper the conversation like
“I can’t stand my roommate, she is such a bitch” or
“My job sucks, everyone is a bunch of assholes.”
All this while texting friends and checking Facebook every three minutes. By the end of dinner she is bombed and semi-belligerent, swiping’ spoonfuls of desert off your plate after she said she was full and didn’t want her own. She will make the obligatory “let me pay” gesture. But we know she never intended to anyway. Only thing she brought was her ID, iPhone and some backup birth control.
After Dinner Antics
We come to the end of the date and as you walk the Asian women back to the car, you find yourself with her arm hooked around yours and you are opening her car door for her. Not because you feel obligated to do so, but because you actually
want
to. She deserves to be treated well, and you reciprocate. You may end up getting coffee somewhere and then drop her off back home. Maybe a kiss, maybe not. But you are okay with it because it was a pleasure to be out with her, you feel content. She expresses her gratitude for the evening, so much so it is almost uncomfortable. When you get home you find a text on your phone thanking you again. A delightful experience.
The American women will often request you go out to do more drinking and bar hopping, even inviting friends. If you just want to get laid, you go along with it. Not saying it isn’t fun, it can be. You end up in some dive bar and she hammers down more Fireball shots on your tab. Maybe she lunges at you in the bar and you end up in a full make out session right there, perhaps more. Classy? No, but still fun. You end up going back to her place and she may or may not invite you in for some easy sex. If not it is only because she wants to appear like she has a sliver of class. It’s all an act because you will be balls deep on next date, no question. No gratitude, no “thank you”
text messages. Just an entitled attitude because this is what all men do for her. It was a fun date, sure. But you have little to no respect for her and any chance of her coming to the company Christmas bash went right down the toilet, the same place her head now rests.
Kilmister
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I have noticed the quality of women mirror's the core beliefs of men, if decent women are exposed to liberal pansy genderless pussybeggars, they will start to rot from the inside once they see how much they can get away with. American men leaving 'Murica do not get away from their problems, they take them anywhere they go.
Good point. The main reason that Western women are so out of control is because in general Western men have been extremely weak, soft, noodle-armed pussy-holes. Western men have been this way for a good 2 generations. We let our women get away with murder...literally. When is the last time a woman got the death penalty in America? Casey Anthony can fucking brutally murder a 3 year old girl, then dance on a fucking bar and get away with it. Western men are weak. Western women exploit that, to everyone's detriment.
I truly blame the value system of the Baby Boomer generation for all this mess. They are a rootten group, but they still believe they are the most special group of human beings to ever live. They feel they deserve not only their parents' WW2 inheritance, but they also believe they are entitled to their childrens' labor in the form of Govt emtitlements, Social Security, endless pensions, etc. With the exception of few good ones, I cannot wait until the Baby Boomers are gone. Thankfully, their beloved Obamacare will hasten their own demise. If we can learn anything from the Boomers, it's how not to live a virtuous life.
The problem is simpler than that. It's just a lack of tradition in society. The problem is that people take religion way to literally. The point of religion was basically to pass down the wisdom of the ancients. We currently live in a society with lots of knowledge, but not enough wisdom. The problem is simply just a lack of tradition. When women aren't raised with a lack of tradition, this is what you get. It doesn't matter whether women work or what kind of benefits they get if they have a sense of tradition and culture. The same problem exists for men today.
She butchered that guy brutally. Then she has the nerve to sit there in court and cry as if she was the victim. I think that behavior is typical of most women who would find themselves in that situation. Typical of most guys I suppose too. The point is, women commit the same crimes and never do the same time. EVER. I'm pretty sure the USA has not executed a woman in decades. In Texas, they execute men on a monthly basis statewide.
I actually had a girl get mad at me for not defending Jodie Arias. This was at work, and she was blathering on about how she "understood why she did it." When I didn't agree, she gave me the stink eye and the cold shoulder ever since.
Sick fucking world, man.
You know, we do have our own version of the boomers in EE, they kind of made aggressive amorality the standard of social behavior, one political observer described it as "all manners of prostitution". However, this kind of thing is more of a symptom than a disease, there is something bigger and more dangerous beneath the surface.
The media pushes consumerism and degeneracy. Look at who owns the media.
Hint: it's the same people that turned pre war Germany into a degenerate hell hole with insane inflation and have been kicked out of every country they've ever been in.
F**k you Gen X or Y. I am getting seriously pissed at all you asshats that want to blame everything on my generation. How weak ass pussy is it to blame your problems on the other guy; in this case the boomer. I was born at the peak of the baby boom, 1955. I lived with shortages of school rooms, jobs, housing, and women. The first no fault divorce laws were passed when I was 14. So you keep on blaming me, or my cohort, for all that followed. BTW what blow for men’s freedom did you strike at 14? I would really like to know.
The divorce and women’s lib movements started long ago. Read some history for god’s sake. The Seneca Falls Declaration of Sentiments, 1848, might be a starting point for your education. Everything of importance did not happen during your lifetime, and some things even happened before there were computers. I got married the first time into the steepest portion of the divorce boom, like a sheep being led to slaughter; unknowing and unwarned. Yes things are sh*tty now. But they have been sh*tty for some time and at least you know how things are and have the information available to you to deal with the shit sandwich that is the western world.
You won't get much support here. The writing is on the wall for your generation sir: "The Worst Generation" is what the boomers will go down as. There's some good guys in that generation, don't get me wrong, but the bad apples are the ones who will be remembered.
This is sometimes true but not always. A lot of us burned once (or twice) older guys have taken off the rose colored glasses before we leave the country. As a result we take things in hand and don’t let the Asian women we meet get out of hand. Once a woman is out of hand you need to walk away as fast as possible. No amount of game or alpha will do anything to restore what should have been the default roles.
I will agree that I see some weak assed game from white guys in Asia. I can only imagine how a local guy feels watching a good woman ruined by a weak beta western man.
Yeah, but still. Most American cunts're overweight and the cute ones blow up on you without warning. They don't respect you or the law, or common decency, or even themselves. Their only purpose in life is to ingest semen and say things that makes you want to slam their heads against the wall.
So can we truly ever write enough articles ragging on these bitches without simultaneously promoting yellow fever.
Seriously though, I fucking adore Asian chicks.
It's the only topic that makes me feel a little bit better about how shitty American women are while simultaneously pissing off American white women. Talk about two birds.
Yeah, I lived in Hawaii from 2002 to 2007. My experiences were many. I had women from other countries, and from the USA; and ample women already in Hawaii for whatever reason (college, work, local, tourist).
I could always spot a married chick: poor outdated dress, saddened look (like a lost puppy) at the bar, and a tan line on her wedding finger; if she was American.
Asian women these guys so highly covet, haha, they prefer to cheat during the day when their "alpha, hard working, (read beta provider) man who "hates American women" finds out a player like me was over (or several), while he was making her shopping money.
In both cases, they were the same. Just their level of discreetness was different.
Also, two hot middle eastern women (hard nines both, and not just because they were exotic to me) were willing to cheat on their boyfriends.
Numerous white, and Hawaiian women. Australian, European (East/West no difference), African, Japanese (when their husband or bf is working), Chinese, South Asian.....................Alaskan women, blah, bliggity blah, blah blah...
Puzzay is puzzay, and it has needs.
I also concede that their are women of character from every caste, race, or nationality.
They just take forever to find. So if you are going to take the risk, wait for one with true character.
Mine is a hard nine. Has a masters, project manager, speaks four languages, with tits and ass to match. She is South Asian. Not to mention model looks. A real ball buster when I met her. Everything many "feminists" claim they are, or want to be. Yet she is not a feminist. LOL
You know what, it was because she hated weak men. I tested her for nine months; then I decided to marry marry. Only after I realized I did not want any one else. It would take too long to establish what I had, and there was no guarantee I would get there.
It is a risk of course. But only because of the state. Without the state, women would have nothing. Then there would be balance.
Didn't ROK just recently have an article very similar to this a few weeks ago? The manosphere is beginning to get a little redundant.
And for the record, yes Western women suck. Especially the white and black ones. But there is this silly idea going around that somehow women from other parts of the world are better than their Western counterparts. It's simply not true, fellas. Women are women, no matter where you go. They are all the same. They will all follow whatever herd they belong to.
Somehow I have a feeling that the guys writing these articles don't actually have any real experience with foreign women. Seems like a lot of speculation being passed off as experience.
I have dated white American women sparingly in the past decade. In part, because I spend so much time overseas. And, in part, because they make me want to puke every time they open their whinny mouths.
But, I generally agree with your points. Women are women. They have the same genetic imperatives. They want you to provide, they want you to pay, they are measuring you as sperm provider and a house provider. In fact, with foreign women, that expectation is as strong as it was 50 years ago. You can catch a little slack on that expectation with some American woman.
However, it is also true that most foreign women are conditioned to hold up their side of he bargain. Keeping house, cooking, caring for the kids, and fucking you like a whore, are something they know is part of the bargain. American women are too entitled to remember that nothing comes for free.
Excellent point. Western women seem to have no idea of reciprocity at all. They feel they are the deal. They feel they don't have to live up to any expections at all. It's pretty gross.
I am married to an Asian woman that I met in Asia. I agree wholeheartedly that women are women everywhere. The OS is the same where ever you go. The difference is in the cultural controls placed on them. The one thing going for Asian women is that they are still conditioned to see wife as a job title and not a retirement plan. They make the same deal for the same reasons as all women do. It is just that they are more likely to keep up their end (YMMV). American women (of any ethnic background) are so far from their end of the bargain they can literally not see that it exists.
Just saw your comment now, I have to agree, anyone with experience with foreign women for any length of time should be able to see beyond the thrill of seeing a women do some real cooking and cleaning. Underneath the same red pill truths apply. Foreign women aren't the answer, they are simply the least worst option.
Look man, there is a difference between a woman/girl who spent her youth working hard, who was taught good manners, respect etc..and a spoiled girl who've had anything handed to her. So yea they are "the same" because they are both humans but that is where the resemblance end.
Sure, the old nature vs. nurture argument. It's almost as if you think these foreign women live in grass huts and have never seen an i-phone. Jesus Christ guys. Foreign women live in the 21st century too. They're not that fucking traditional. They have all the Facebook and reality TV they can handle. By and large, women are THE SAME the entire world over.
I have a feeling all the dudes here that are spouting this shit about foreign women being different have never actually been with a foreign woman.
Furthermore, what makes these guys think the "angelic, totally different" foriegn women have a thing for Western guys? You don't think they know Western guys are big pussies?
You fucking faggot, in northern China I've seen guys beat their wives on the street, i know two white English teachers who were assaulted, one knocked out cold off his bike, one stabbed with a mear cleaver, I'm 6'1" and get towered all the time by big Chinese dudes. I grew up in queens with Chinese guys who carried glocks in their jansports and we're constantly beefing with the local niggas from Jamaica Queens
Well it's my experience. I'm going to stick with that for now. Just because someone says "oh they are all whores and they are just like the ameriskanks" doesnt mean im going to believe it, because it's not what I'm seeing.
While Asian women may be much more attractive on the surface, there are horror stories involved with them as well. Weigh the pros and cons for yourself; based on who, what, and where you are, you might find that the pros of Asian women outweigh the cons.
I have experience with foreign Asian women (Japanese in Japan, some Chinese and Korean in the States), and for the most part, AWALT, it's just that a lot of guys (especially White guys) will get points and perks with Asian women that they wouldn't get with other types of women, particularly American women. This (along with the fact that most Asian women aren't fat) is going to make them more generally attractive, it's as simple as that.
Then, some of us have Yellow Fever and like NE Asian women in particular.
I went so far as to marry a Japanese woman, once and yes, AWALT.
..besides, if one has actually spent any substantial time in Asia, one has run into the very sort of girl decried on this very site many many time who is - wait for it...Asian born in Asia! Japan is full of stupid sluts who behave just like north Americans, trashy dressing, phone obsessed, clown makeup wearing valid idiots. We have to take into account that there is a selection bias because the women who leave Asia have motives to get some education, or learn English, they're already not the type to just screw around with their phones all day. The dumb skanks usually don't want to leave their own country and one rarely encounters them out side of their home turf unless you are going to a specific tourist hangout, like Guam or saipan in the case of Japan.
That's true, but there are quite a few Asian women that come to America that are the same way. Some chasing an easier way of life, some looking to become Americanized (of course, an American guy, especially a blonde/blue one can take advantage of this for easy sex), and some thinking that life in the West is more carefree, and they can get away with stuff that they wouldn't under the watchful eyes of their families.
(of course, an American guy, especially a blonde/blue one can take advantage of this for easy sex)
Fucking Jesus, how much more are you going to obsess over this in your comments here? How many more comment threads are you going to stink up with your butthurt fixation on Asian women who prefer white men -- whether or not it has anything to do with the article being discussed?
Until she calls 9-1-1 and tells the 'White Knights in Blue Uniforms', "I feel afraid". Then you can wear an orange jumpsuit and be dominant with your cellmate. Until the laws are reformed (fat chance!), American Women are bad risks for any kind of relashionshit and better off being used for 'pump and dump' (like they want -- at least until they turn thirty and see "The Wall" making it's approach).
A more traditional part of the world like rural America? I've seen the world, and it has its good points and bad. It's not some Nirvana where all the ills of our society are solved, not with politics and not with women either.
I love how people in the ROK community brag about how 'redpill' and 'alpha' they are but still pedastalize girls from EE/Russia/SE Asia/South America etc, NAWALT on an indirect level. Women might have different characteristics in different parts of the world but they have the same OS(operating system) ALL of them. Hypergamy, hypergamy, hypergamy
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