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[–]ttk2Free Software Fanatic[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Your argument assumes it is the goal of the subreddit to be exactly the same moderator less environment as the server.

This is not the goal of the subreddit, the subreddit is used as a communication tool for the administration and a community building tool, it is administrated as we see fit to achieve those goals.

If you have a problem with this you are more than welcome to exercise your speech in another subreddit or on another website.

[–]serverError404#FreeOJD2014[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I see the subreddit as an extension of the Civcraft mechanic, it is a place for communication about in game matters. It should be a free and open place for communication about all things Civcraft. I am wondering why some Civholiday posts are allowed, and some aren't. I am fine with moderation to keep things only Civcraft related, so it does not turn into a non-civcraft related Circle jerk.

Allowing the moderators to approve a holiday makes it sound like it is an official Civcraft holiday, that is against everything I felt Civcraft was about. The moderators should not take a side, the in game admins stay away from drama and taking sides in game, why can the subreddit admins not only take sides on the subreddit, but make things official Civcraft holidays?

[–]ttk2Free Software Fanatic[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

We can't balance the subreddit in any fashion and reddit is not designed to handle true lack of moderation.

As much as I might be interested in coding a true zero moderator decentralized self operating posting board, that is not what we have here.

What we have here is a poorly designed , easily gamed, and impossible to balance popularity system sitting on top of the most valuable resource in any society simulation, public perception across all groups. Ideally the subreddit would not exist and people would have to communicate in game or at least though their own sets of subreddits, making it harder to manipulate everyone at once. (for example even your goal right now is manipulation of public opinion to support yourself).

The goal of allowing CivHolidays is to try and get some interesting tangential discussion going, your goal with your Civholiday was to spam/parody the actual CivHolidays. Its not a big deal just somthing we decided to try, we will make some judgments when its over in a few months.

[–]llShadyGuyllRyden's Right Hand - ew 1 ポイント2 ポイント

The goal of allowing CivHolidays is to try and get some interesting tangential discussion going

http://www.reddit.com/r/Civcraft/comments/20en7r/civholiday_3141592_happy_pi_day/

We can have tangential discussions about 3/14 but not 4/20? :c

[–]ttk2Free Software Fanatic 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Parody post is more the discussion here.

[–]serverError404#FreeOJD2014[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I agree with your problems with the subreddit, I have been a huge advocate for creating a Civcraft forums that does not have the public opinion aspect pushing posts down and up. Just because the system is not perfect it does not warrant the admins choosing what is relevant and what isn't.

Im fine with moderation of the subreddit, I absolutely am against over moderation of the subreddit. If something is posted that has absolutely nothing to do with Civcraft, I have no problem with it's removal, but mine actually had some slight relevancy, it had as much, actually more relevancy than some of the Civholiday posts.

[–]ttk2Free Software Fanatic[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント

your contradicting yourself, if admins can't chose whats relevant then how can you agree with any moderation? Obliviously we have to determine relevance to make any judgement.

Your argument has no coherent meaning.

[–]serverError404#FreeOJD2014[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

The moderation of the subreddit should be based on 1 thing, is it relevant to Civcraft. That should be rather easy to determine.

[–]ttk2Free Software Fanatic 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Easy to determine? The irony of you saying that is incredible.

[–]serverError404#FreeOJD2014[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント

How is that ironic?

Somthing that is not Civcraft related is rather easy to determine, if you are going to set up the precedence of CivHolidays being civcraft related, it should not be the moderators decision to decide what is and isn't a Civholiday.

[–]kovio"most people on this server have autism." Raz0rblade, 4/2/2014 1 ポイント2 ポイント

What we have here is a poorly designed , easily gamed, and impossible to balance popularity system sitting on top of the most valuable resource in any society simulation, public perception across all groups.

This is why we should use a forum, and ditch the sub.