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[–]CRISPR 70 ポイント71 ポイント 前

I am a first generation immigrant. I haven't seen a single immigrant and I talked to Russians, Pakistanis, Africans (about half a dozen equatorial countries), Indians, Indonesians. All of them, except Western Europeans, agree that American white-guilt policy towards former slaves is plain vanilla insane.

When I first came here I was a Soviet-born anti-racist idealist who passionately argued with Russians that came 3 months before me on the race issues. Russians, most of them Ph.D.s in physics and mathematics, were surprisingly "racist". Now I understand. After I shed the liberal bullshit from my eyes, I can see all the idiocy behind appeasement of various scum just because they have to be black.

There are plenty of wonderful black people, entrepreneurs, professionals, who are not celebrated at all, instead all we see is encouragement of human waste like Sharpton, gangsta rappers, get-rich-quick variety of celebrities, ebonics, gangster culture.

This does not work either for whites or blacks. It's just stupid liberal bullshit that exists only because of idiotic western adherence to "democracy".

[–]The_Glockness_Monste 16 ポイント17 ポイント 前

The man's a motherfucking monstrosity, there's really nothing else to say. He's hideously bigoted and corrupt to the core. No wonder the authoritarian leftists eat his shit for breakfast.

[–]looksanereasoning 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

Thats because its psychological warfare, and political ideologies at work. Poor fucking white kids growing up in public school being fed this nonsense and they TAKE that burden with them. White mans burden my taint, load of horseshit.

[–]YamiHarrison 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

Same. I'm from Israel but got US citizenship. I have no idea why I'm obligated to pay for things from the 19th century

Thou as a Jew I do very much care about sharptons role in the Crown Heights Pogrom

[–]contrarianismideologues gonna demagogue 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Don't forget his role inciting a massacre at Freddies Fashion Mart.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

The Plantation.

[–]CRISPR 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

I am sorry, I did not get the reference. Are you referring to some work under this title?

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント 前

It means that Democrats want to keep black voters "loyal" and unified in their support of the Democratic party. In other words, they want to "keep them on the plantation."

People like Sharpton are the henchmen who help in that effort.

[–]adlpSHITLORD 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Joe Biden said the evil conservatives will put black voters back in chains!!! so that means continue being chained to democrats' welfare programs right

[–]CRISPR 10 ポイント11 ポイント 前

Got it. I feel stupid for not hearing this brilliant concept before. That's exactly what liberal agenda is: give your herd bread and circuses, keep them in the dark with bullshit liberal propaganda.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

"Bread and Circuses" applies to both sides but for Democrats it's not like they're helping their constituents by perpetuating a culture of blame and dependence.

Here's Herman Cain on this topic:

“As far as Harry Belafonte’s comment, I left the plantation a long time ago. And, all they try to do when someone like me, and I’m not the only black person out there that shares these conservative views. The only tactic they have to try to intimidate me and shut me up is to call me names and this sort of thing. It just simply won’t work. “

[–]kirktConstitutionalist 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Man I wish I had the option to vote for Cain in 2012.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Me too but he should have known he'd be a target. Especially if he had a mistress.

[–]overmindthousand 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

You know, I think it's important that we all treat each other with respect, but honestly, does having a mistress really mean that someone is going to be a terrible president? I don't remember exactly what it was that Cain got in trouble for, but I can remember thinking: How exactly does this make him unfit for office? Why are people so caught up with where he puts his dick, and so unconcerned with his actual policy proposals?

Granted, I used to be pretty politically apathetic, and I viewed news media with superficial interest, but all I really gathered from my preferred liberal news outlets at the time (MSNBC and CNN in particular) was that Herman Cain touched a butt or something, and therefore he simply could not be a president. There was obviously more to it than that, but I have to think... How many other Americans are making political decisions based on the same sort of shallow criteria?

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

but honestly, does having a mistress really mean that someone is going to be a terrible president?

In the States, yes.

How many other Americans are making political decisions based on the same sort of shallow criteria?

The thinking is if he lies to his wife - someone he has pledged to - how will he treat the American public?

[–]b_deam 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

People like Sharpton are the henchmen who help in that effort.

Like Uncle Ruckus

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Uncle%20Ruckus

[–]b_deam 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

That helps, watching the show makes more sense though

[–]unkleman 14 ポイント15 ポイント 前

Barack has time and time again gone out of his way to give the appearance to blacks that they will be favored. That is why when a professor friend of his was mistaken for a home invader it "required" presidential intervention as if they were world leaders on the brink of war. That is why he condemned Zimmerman for daring self defense on someone who was a member of his racial group (honestly, what would people say about Bush in a similar situation if he was outraged that the shot attacker was white and said he racially resembled what his son would look like)

Democrat strategy is to pander to enough special interests simultaneously that they make a majority.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

Democrat strategy is to pander to enough special interests simultaneously that they make a majority.

Divide and Conquer.

It wins battles but leaves a scorched earth behind.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

What're they gonna do when the buhraaaack is gone !

[–]wretcheddawn 10 ポイント11 ポイント 前

Blast propaganda about how evil the new Republican president is.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

It's funny how many "issues" disappear when a Democrat is elected.

[–]aveygt 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

I don't think this is a race issue, let's not get as much into race bating as this guy.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

Who said it was a race issue besides you?

[–]Salgados 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

CRISPR, Unkleman, and even you, along with most of the top comments have mentioned race as a factor.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント 前

Where did I say race was a factor in anything?

[–]Salgados 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

You invoked "The Plantation" and said

It means that Democrats want to keep black voters "loyal" and unified in their support of the Democratic party. In other words, they want to "keep them on the plantation."

People like Sharpton are the henchmen who help in that effort.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント 前

I did however that is not the "issue" between Bundy and Sharpton and was in reference to larger policies and beliefs on behalf of one political party.

[–]aveygt 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I guess I replied to the wrong comment, /u/crispr is what I was talking about. although I agree with his sentiment It seemed to start talking about racism and affirmative action when that isn't what this was about.

[–]jaylike### 17 ポイント18 ポイント 前

These are two different issues.

[–]SkittlesUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

It's almost like that's the entire purpose of a comparison? To compare things that are different?

[–]NIU_1087 -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

But comparing things that are exactly the same is so much fun!

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

How so?

[–]jaylike### 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

One is a guy who doesn't recognize the authority of the federal government and has lost multiple court cases, in the past 20 years, over the issue while the other is indebted to the government over his taxes, which is a very common issue many Americans go through. It's so common I see commercial talking about how they can help you negotiate your way out.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント 前

Bundy does recognize the authority of the Federal Government, however he feels the state of Nevada should control the land and it is they who should be managing it and getting the revenue. Furthermore, numerous states are currently in litigation with the Feds over the same issue Bundy has so he is far from alone.

And nobody gets that far into debt with the IRS over that long of a period unless they believe the rules don't apply to them and they will not suffer any serious consequences. Of course, if you're stupid or "connected" this "logic" may not apply.

The two topics are very closely related.

And how many tax evaders meet with the president? Obama even hired a few.

[–]atarigod2600 9 ポイント10 ポイント 前

The problem is that people cannot simply pick and choose which law suits their beliefs.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

That's why the issues have been in ongoing litigation for some time as well as working their way through the Nevada Government.

[–]atarigod2600 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

I just wish there was more of a middle ground to this and many other issues. I understand his beliefs but to rally a militia to protest a courts decision is similarly outrageous to sending armed men to confiscate cattle.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

The BLM dug mass graves to bury his cattle after they shot them.

Bundy's response was just although he is guilty, I think, of too much bravado but perhaps that is a normal reaction to what he views as Federal overreaction.

[–]ScenesfromaCat 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I think people forget that this is the reason we HAVE a 2nd Amendment. We started a war over our government imposing taxes on tea and paper goods. If the government shot all my cattle, I'd raise a militia too.

[–]tarzanwerewolf### -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

He can feel all he fucking wants.

The Nevada Constitution expressly says: "they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States"

It ALSO says:

" Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair[,] subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existance [existence], and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority."

Pretty cut and dried.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

The nice thing about laws is they can be changed.

[–]TheGasMask4 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

The nice thing about changing laws is that they're still laws until they're changed.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント 前

They are, even if they're not enforced.

[–]jeepdave 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Leaving out how the Feds changed the rules as well. I stand with the rancher. I hope the BML tries something really stupid and finds out how little athority they have in Ranch Kick Ass.

[–]mens_libertina 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Didn't really work in Waco or other places.

[–]Dignified 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

The "everybody does it" defense. Sure fire success.

[–]NordlichenUbermensch 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

a guy who doesn't recognize the authority of the federal government

How can you get any more "doesn't recognize the authority of the federal government" than having millions of dollars of back-taxes?

[–]tarzanwerewolf### 14 ポイント15 ポイント 前

Look, I think Sharpton is an asshole, BUT:

Stop lying. The ACTUAL response to Sharpton's tax woes has been a string of fines, liens, and subpoenas. He's been slowly paying it down.

If he'd ignored the taxman for 20 years and then had the New Black Panther party show up to point guns at the NYPD, you might have a point.

That's not at all what he did, they aren't remotely comparable. Stop it.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント 前

What Sharpton has done is worse than Bundy. From the Tawana Brawley incident to turning Jews and blacks against each other to going to jail to spreading lies.

Sharpton is one if the most vile race peddlers and yet he gets photographed with a U.S. president.

Why must you make excuses?

[–]jessemfguire87 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Oh god, I almsot forgot about Tawana Brawley. Fuck that piece of shit. Now she is a becoming a radical muslim and still sticks to her story.

[–]DevonWeeksModerate Conservative 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Well, I wonder how much rape protection she thinks Shariah will give her.

[–]canadian-mongoose 9 ポイント10 ポイント 前

This man didn't pay for use of government land, land he didn't own. What's the issue?

[–]SonsofAnarchy113 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

The state level said it was fine that he didn't pay these fees because THEY didn't hold up their end of the bargain at one point.

[–]homrqt 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

Barack Obama doesn't care about white people.

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

Source?

[–]homrqt 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Well if the meme of this thread is not enough... Barack Obama started an initiative to help young black men, singling out assistance for only young men of color.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/us/politics/obama-will-announce-initiative-to-empower-young-black-men.html

[–]CptQuestionMarkFree Market Monarchist 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

It's time for racial equality in the United States. It's time for a new Civil Rights movement, where whites and blacks and republicans and democrats have to live under the same laws.

[–]TheSamsonOption 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

One is being forced off his land to protect a desert turtle, and the other looks like a turtle.

[–]Mooseyxhmx 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Find cover, SRS is about to blow this fucking thread up.

[–]dropdeadgregg -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

clive bundy is going to pay what he owes or he will lose his ranch, it doesnt matter what stories people make up about harry reid...the people who believe it are just into doom porn, the dollar wont crash all the canned goods you put in your basement will go bad and your fear of change will separate you from all of society...at least you will still have your guns and bullets to commit suicide which will be your only solution from all the fear you have from the rich using with and things like this to help them stay rich and oppress the good everyday people you use to be before you believed everything you read

[–]chabanaisFortis est veritas[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

May the turtles lose.