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Warning: YouTube personalities and other content producers that repeatedly submit their own content may be at an elevated risk of an admin shadowban, due to the banning spree of many Dota 2 personalities.Meta (self.tf2)

submitted ago by wickedplayer494[M] - stickied post

Attn. /u/LuckyLukeTF2, /u/extine, other content producers:

This is not a test. This post will remain stickied until further notice.

The reddit admins are currently going on banning sprees with many major Dota 2 community contributors, and by association, LoL and SC2 community contributors, all of whom worked for a site called onGamers.

Other community members for a Dota 2 videos site called DotaCinema have also been shadowbanned too. There was a SRD thread for this one: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/22ta9h/drama_in_rdota2_when_several_prominent_community/

LD, a popular commentator in the Dota 2 scene, may potentially have been given a cease & desist notice from the admins to stop posting (though this should be taken with a grain of salt due to lack of image proof): https://twitter.com/LDdota/status/454830500289732608

This is an alert to the potential that TF2 personalities that submit their own content repeatedly (ie stuff from their own YouTube channels) are likely at a higher risk of being a victim of the ongoing banning spree going on by the site admins. Though there have been no reported shadowbans of regular community members from /r/tf2, this warning is sent as a precautionary measure.

In the event that there are bans that go out, immediately notify us. Your comments and submissions will not show up otherwise if you get shadowbanned!

Here's an excerpt from single-channel warnings that I send out when people tend to go over the line explaining how shadowbans differ from regular subreddit bans:

Shadowbans are different from normal subreddit-only bans (which will usually have a message indicating why so (at least in this subreddit, other subreddits may vary with their procedures), unless a persistent raid on a thread is in progress). Shadowbans still let the user post links and submit comments, but they will automatically get flagged by the spam filter and won't show up unless a mod approves them. To the user, they still exist, but to everyone else, they don't. Shadowbans will have no notice if one takes effect. This type of ban is reddit-wide.

Normal bans from a subreddit, on the other hand, differ from a shadowban. With this type of ban, the user can't even submit posts or comments at all. Normal bans always have an automated notice, but a mod can opt to give a reason as to why through a comment, though this varies from subreddit to subreddit. This type of ban only applies to a certain subreddit.

alienth gives a list of what'll get you slammed: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/22uah1/warning_youtube_personalities_and_other_content/cgqgcom

The situation in other subreddits will be closely monitored.

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[–]25lazyfinger 121 ポイント122 ポイント 前

I post my own videos all the time on r/tf2.
By "TF2 personalities that submit their own content repeatedly" it sounds like the Reddit admins are targeting OC creators. Which is funny.
What's the preffered alternative? Posters, image macros and reposts?

[–]micka190 61 ポイント62 ポイント 前

The way I see it, they want to stop those who ONLY post their own monetized content. So basically those who only use reddit to make a profit and don't contribute in any other way. I have to agree and disagree with them on this one though.

On one end they're stopping people from only posting their videos (which are monetized, but they won't ban you if you're not the creator of the content) which stops people from basically spamming their content without ever doing anything else on reddit than making a profit.

But on the other end that's what makes reddit stagnate so often. It's making a dent in the OC on subs made for OC while encouraging more of memes, reposts and shitty circlejerk posts. Shadowbanning is also pretty extreme to be honest. Why should someone be, basically, banned in every sub for posting in one sub? Especially when the mods of that one sub are willin to filter is content through the system anyway.

[–]CedarWolf 18 ポイント19 ポイント 前

Actually, if you check the rules of reddit, follow to the "What constitutes spam?" page, and check the guidelines regarding self-promotion:

  • If your contribution to reddit consists mostly of submitting links to a site(s) that you own or otherwise benefit from in some way, and additionally if you do not participate in discussion, or reply to peoples questions, regardless of how many upvotes your submissions get, you are a spammer. If over 10% of your submissions are your own site/content/affiliate links, you're almost certainly a spammer.

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  • You should not just start submitting your links - it will be unwelcome and may be removed as spam, or your account banned as spam.
  • You should submit from a variety of sources (general rule of thumb is 10% or less of your links being your own site), talk to people in the comments (and not just on your own links), and generally be a good member of the community.
  • You should not vote up only things from your domain or project, or have any other employees or fans do the same. Every redditor should evaluate and vote on each submission or comment based on the value when they read it. Only submitting on, or voting on, one particular person, domain, or brand's content will get an account banned from reddit - it's called vote cheating and manipulation.
  • You should not ask for votes on reddit, even on your twitter or blog or forum - it will get your account banned, and in extreme cases can get your domain banned.

[–]450925 16 ポイント17 ポイント 前

The definition of spam is what I have a problem with,

Spam is something that does not add anything to the debate, or simply repeats something already said over and over.

Posts like "first" or repetition are examples.

But if you create a lot of content relevant to a subreddit, you should not be silenced for wishing to share it with them... Maybe a guideline if you don't want to see lots of the same site in the front page of that subreddit, encourage them to use block posts. To condense a period of works into "update threads"

But straight up banning because of it, is not helping the subreddit at all. Right now the front page is "spammed" by the same subject... Shadowbans.

[–]CedarWolf -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

you should not be silenced for wishing to share it with them

No one's being silenced. Content creators are allowed to self-promote, as long as they follow the site-wide rules like everybody else. Shadow-bans can be overturned, it's not like your account and all of your links got deleted or something.

[–]450925 7 ポイント8 ポイント 前

"Content creators are allowed to self-promote, as long as they don't self-promote."

Because that's effectively what the rule says... "not allowed to link your own personal site or blog."

but this doesn't apply to youtube channels, imgur galleries or twitter for about 99% of the site.

It seems as if the spotlight is on the dota community for this, since no other community has had this happen recently. Even though there are people in the other subreddits doing the exact same thing.

[–]CedarWolf 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

no other community has had this happen recently.

Actually, it has. We had a similar situation in some of the transgender communities when someone went through and reported all of the blog spammers a few months ago.

The rule says you can link to your own content and self-promote, as long as you don't go crazy with it. If the only links you're posting go to things you personally profit from, then you're probably gonna get caught.

[–]450925 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

months ago..

Not recently. There are people in other communities like DOTA2, that have the exact same posting habbits, only linking their material. And are not subject to this rule.

And this is 2 members of the same subreddit in the same week... To try and think this is not targeted in the least is naive

[–]Armonah 11 ポイント12 ポイント 前

What people take issue with aren't these rules in and of themselves, but the fact that

1) Content creators from /r/Dota2 were banned despite being both valued members and active parcicipants of their community, and

2) That the decision of how to deal with these members was taken out of the hands of the mods of /r/Dota2. Even if theoretically the mods of the Dota subreddit felt differently about this situation than the community they serve, this simply doesn't seem to be the case either.

This is a pretty classic case of why you shouldn't fix something if it isn't broken.

[–]frymaster 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

That the decision of how to deal with these members was taken out of the hands of the mods of /r/Dota2

The mods of a subreddit get to determine what constitutes rule-breaking in their sub (and can ban from their sub), but they don't get to opt-out of the site rules. It's worth noting that the definition of spam is specifically called out (in the wiki and in reddit comments by an admin in light of this) as being a subreddit-specific thing. My personal conclusion is that people making the assumption that this is due to people posting a lot of self content may be wrong.

We're all in the dark until and unless someone who has been banned asks about it and screenshots the response. The reddit admins can't tell any of us for obvious reasons. Affected people paraphrasing the response instead of providing a screenshot means nothing for obvious reasons.

My personal guess is that this is about links on other sites to reddit submissions, rather than vice versa.

I've italicised personal above to reinforce that what I think has as much value as anyone else's opinion in this thread, including the poster (ie none)

[–]CedarWolf 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

They're site-wide rules. By participating here, we all agree to be bound by them and follow them. Mods are just users who take on a little extra responsibility to try and keep the place functioning smoothly so everyone else can party. It's like being a mix between a janitor and a host at a venue. The admins are on a level well above the mods, it's their site. You get caught breaking the site-wide rules, and you're likely to get banned for it.

Here's the kicker: You're okay and you can completely avoid breaking this rule if you also link to other stuff. It only kicks in when more than 10% of the stuff you post goes to your own content... but in practice, I've generally seen people get banned like this when everything they post goes to stuff they created, owned, or sites they work for. Basically, it's okay to post your content to reddit, it's not okay to use your posts to drive up your own ad revenue.

What probably happened here is that people were breaking the rules for a while, until something brought it to the admins' attention, and they had to step in. We had a similar kerfuffle a couple of months ago over some blog-spammers in some of the transgender subreddits.

[–]Armonah 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

If your contribution to reddit consists mostly of submitting links to a site(s) that you own or otherwise benefit from in some way, and additionally if you do not participate in discussion, or reply to peoples questions, regardless of how many upvotes your submissions get, you are a spammer. If over 10% of your submissions are your own site/content/affiliate links, you're almost certainly a spammer.

I took this to mean that there's wiggle room between actual spammers, and people who use Reddit to be part of a community who also happen to have a site of their own (seeing as Reddit doesn't allow you to host your own content). The weasel words of "almost certainly a spammer" only drives this home some more to me, as if to say that a theoretical account that posts over 10% links to the same site can be assumed to be a spammer, but, you know, not always.

[–]CedarWolf 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I believe the anger is justified.

Well, I suppose that's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it is if someone is breaking the rules for a long time, and no one is enforcing those rules... when enforcement comes, people are going to be upset. That's exactly what's happened here.

Were these users right to spam? No, and the admins have a right to enforce the site-wide rules fairly and impartially.

Was it fair to ban these people without warning? It's not the way I would have handled the situation, personally, but again... they're the admins, they run the site, and they have to be impartial. I guess I don't see how they can ban someone for breaking a rule over here, and then be lenient with a bunch of people for breaking the same rule over there.

Being an admin or a mod is a tough position to be in, sometimes. These folks who were shadow banned should contact the admins and talk to them about it. That's the best course of action for everyone.

[–]Armonah 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I actually edited that part out because I felt it wasn't really all that well argued or relevant to our discussion anyway. :B

when enforcement comes, people are going to be upset. That's exactly what's happened here.

Sometimes when someone has been skirting by the banhammer, it's a huge relief when it finally comes crashing down. So I don't believe that this is what happened. Maybe the admins should've been more upfront or rigid in their enforcement of this rule, but the question remains if that would have been better.

But I think you and I approach this topic from a fundamentally different moral framework. While you consider impartiality a fair approach because it doesn't take certain circumstances into account (like who posted what), I think it's unfair for the exact same reason. I'm somewhat of a moral subjectivist myself, and I believe in discretion. And while this is admittedly murky terrain, I wouldn't have picked this framework if I didn't think it was better than the alternative.

[–]CedarWolf 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

On the contrary, I'm actually something of a softie when it comes to moderation because personally, I do tend to look for context and I do grant second chances. I always try to be fair and impartial, but part of being fair means taking intent into account. I can't speak for the admins, though. I already mentioned that this isn't how I would have handled the situation, personally: I would have given a warning first.

[–]Armonah 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Oh, there's no question about that, this situation could've been dealt with much better. Even if they felt it was necessary to enforce this rule, a warning or a slap on the wrist probably would've been enough. And if it wasn't, nobody could've said they didn't see it coming if they did end up getting shadowbanned.

[–]Fatmop 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

So I might already be shadow banned, according to this. I'm pretty sure i rarely linked to anything other than my own vids - maybe tftv once in a while?

[–]CedarWolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

You're not shadow-banned. You can always log out and look at your user overview or use a site like this one to check. There is also /r/ShadowBan and /r/ShadowBanned. They even have a handy, sensible guide on how to avoid being shadow-banned.

[–]TeaDrinkingRedditor 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

While I understand how posting your own monetised videos breaks the rules, I think it's a shame that they don't overlook them when they're relevant to and welcomed by the community you're posting them to.

[–]phoenixrawr 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

If they weren't relevant to and welcomed by the sub they wouldn't be a problem. They'd get downvoted or deleted for being spam. You only have a potential problem when it's relevant content that people will upvote because that's the kind of content that has potential to be abused by spammers looking to take advantage of Reddit to make a quick buck.

[–]CedarWolf -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

Okay, let's put it into context: If I work for Disney, and I want to submit something to /r/Disney, I know that I've got a target audience right there that is interested in the content I produce. It's how marketing works. But if I'm using that community to line my own pockets with ad revenue and pushing up my site views, that's out of line.

It's really easy to avoid falling prey to this rule: Just vary your links and sources. If you know and are involved in a community you care about, then you know where to find other content that you can link.

[–]angrypotato1 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Congrats on actually taking the time to understand the issue. People have rushed into the hate brigade

[–]CedarWolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

Well, I'm a mod... and the policy's been there for years. I don't exactly have an excuse for not knowing about it. :P

[–]angrypotato1 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント 前

Oooh and a politics one at that. You must be used to this drama. I kinda meant what do you think of these bannings.

[–]CedarWolf 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Personally? I prefer a tiered warning system. If someone does wrong, let them know. If they do it again, then you already know that they know they're breaking the rules. Some things we ban for on sight, like telling someone to kill themselves. Most of the bans I run are temporary bans, just a way of asking someone to step back and review the rules a bit. This gives me a chance to explain why the rule exists and why it's important, and it gives the reader a chance to improve their behavior. I don't much like exiling people from a community on the chance that they made a mistake, so I like to give second chances where I can, even though doing so means more work for me.

Meanwhile, if I give someone a second chance and they don't improve their behavior, then it just confirms that banning them was the right call in the first place. This makes temporary bans something of a win-win scenario: It allows us to cultivate readers who know and will follow the rules, while simultaneously allowing us to check and confirm the character of those whose behavior merits a ban.

I can't speak for the admins, though. In my interactions with the admins, they've been pretty sensible people. As I understand it, even if you do get shadow-banned, and you feel it's in error, you can message the admins and ask about it. Sometimes they'll overturn it, but again, I can't promise anything or speak on behalf of the admins, I'm just a mod.

[–]Gouretoratto 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

Welp, advice animals has millions of subs, which means more ad revenue. so probably. But uhhh... fuck reddit's admins, you made me love playing heavy again with your videos. Pls keep it up.

[–]25lazyfinger 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

aw shucks. Thanks buddy. :)

[–]Kimber_James 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

What's the preffered alternative? Posters, image macros and reposts?

Small content providers that only post to a game subreddit are allowed if the subreddit is okay with it. Once you start cross posting the same video to three, four different subs, then the admins might see you as a spammer. As long as you keep providing content to your /r/tf2 you will be fine.

Oh here's a bit of longer response on the issue.

TL;DR: They probably didn't get banned for trying to provide content to their community, but for breaking some rules (vote cheating for example). Admins are okay with you providing content to your community if the sub is okay with it.

[–]MrGryphian 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

According to the rules of reddit, if 80% of your link submissions are to content you own or benefit from, then you fall into a "spammer" categorey and have a risk of account removal.

I had a discussion with the minecraft mods about this and they didn't believe me/didn't enforce the global rule

[–]iBleeedorange 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

it sounds like the Reddit admins are targeting OC creators.

No, they're targeting people who manipulate votes.

[–]MalHeartsNutmeg 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Why is it funny that they target OC creators? I don't agree with what they're doing at all, but Reddit isn't even about OC, it's a link aggregator, that was its point. You know - the front page of the internet. At no point was it ever meant to be a place to develop OC. It can, and that's fine, but it was never the focus. That's why I find it weird when people complain at the lack of OC.

[–]leoshnoire 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

What defines reddit anymore than how we define it?

That is to say, yes, reddit was and is and will continue to be an aggregator of content, but who is to say it cannot become more than what was intended for it?

[–]medli20 23 ポイント24 ポイント 前

I find this news disturbing. Does this mean that content creators should lay low for a while?

[–]wickedplayer494[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント 前

Potentially, or at least reduce the frequency of posts consisting of their own creations.

[–]medli20 7 ポイント8 ポイント 前

Oof, okay. :( How frequently would you say it's safe for content creators to post their things, if you're able to take a guess?

[–]noformnocontent 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

1/10 links you submit allowed to be self-promotion, according to reddit rules

[–]aloy99 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

There's such a rule?

Wow.

[–]noformnocontent 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

read ToS when you sign up on websites. or dont. but you will still be accepting it as part of the process.

[–]MikoSquiz[🍰] 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

Nobody has ever read ToS. It's just a symbolic ass-cover.

[–]noformnocontent 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

ignorance is bliss. until it gives you ass-kiss.

meaning kissing your face with its ass

[–]MikoSquiz[🍰] 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

That is the stupidest rule I have ever heard of, except maybe the five-second rule.

[–]noformnocontent 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

reddit also have an instance of 5 second rule as well — if you edit your comment/textpost within 1 minute of submitting it, it wont have the '*' ("edited") indicator.

[–]VGPowerlord 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

What if most of my posts are self-posts and I only post links to my own stuff?

[–]BrynHendry 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Self promotion =/= OC

Youtube channels = self promotion.

Imgur links = OC.

[–]thestickystickman 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

This doesn't affect you, you aren't self-promoting.

[–]Dizmn 31 ポイント32 ポイント 前

The real question: What will /u/LazyPurpleShadowBan's new username be if he gets shadowbanned again?

[–]JontanD 13 ポイント14 ポイント 前

/u/LazyPurpleShadowBanShadowBan?

[–]angrypotato1 10 ポイント11 ポイント 前

/u/LazyPurpleQuitMakingVideos :(

[–]HeavyMigration 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Why'd he get shadow banned?

[–]Dizmn 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/11fb3w/organized_stupidity/c6lyiz3

[–]Rateddx 11 ポイント12 ポイント 前

I've read everything and I'm just a tad confused.

If I were to promote something I made on Steam Workshop, Weapon /Hat, that I want to be entered into TF2, is that considered OC and promoting something that I could potentially benefit from?

[–]angrypotato1 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Yes, if more than 10% of your posts come from something you could benefit, it is a rule-break by default

[–]teleekom 21 ポイント22 ポイント 前

This is completely idiotic

[–]noformnocontent 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

what would stop those content creators from creating virtuals every month or so and just post links to their sites/channels this way? (in case no one else posted a link to specific article/video after a day or two)

[–]angrypotato1 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Nothing, that's why admins have a huge problem with spam

[–]DemoDemoPan1 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Why?

[–]wickedplayer494[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

The current running reason for many of the personalities for Dota 2 getting banned was linking to their own stuff too much.

[–]allthefoxes 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

Which is indeed against the rules.

[–]phoenixrawr 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

And potentially also for circle voting in the case of the onGamer guys, although I don't know if that was confirmed.

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    [–]LuckyLukeTF2 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

    I don't really get what the problem is. I have heard about the reddit rule before that you're not allowed to post your own content (maybe a bit, but there doesn't seem to be a clear ratio of what's allowed). Honestly I think it's an unnecessary rule, because of the up / down vote system on reddit. If I post videos here that people don't want to see, it'll be downvoted and won't be seen. So the community chooses what it wants to see, no matter who posted it. That's what's awesome about reddit and other social media. We obviously use places like reddit, twitter, facebook to promote our content, but we don't make money there. It helps, but only if you create something that people want to see. Not everyone uses YouTube subscriptions and prefer to find content via other sites such as reddit, twitter and facebook. So as content creator you need to make sure people can find your content there as well.

    I also use reddit to reply to questions or feedback (and read feedback) on my posts, which is useful and nice. If fans would have to create the posts that's fine with me, but I wouldn't come here try to dig through posts and find one of our videos just to answer feedback. So if that's the case so be it but you won't be finding me on r/tf2 anymore (maybe for an AMA though).

    To me, it doesn't matter who posts content here. As long as it's there, the community will upvote what they want to see. I wouldn't post my videos here if people didn't upvote them. Since they do, I know they like it and that's why I keep posting my videos to r/tf2. Promotion is part of releasing content, when I upload a video to YouTube I always post it right away to twitter, facebook, google+, reddit and TF2 related websites such as TFTV and ETF2L. Nobody there cares about who posts the content, except for reddit apperantly.

    tl;dr: it's not about the user that submitted the content, it's about the content itself. The community will choose what you can find on the frontpage via the (awesome) up and down- voting system.

    [–]LuckyLukeTF2 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    So yes, I'll probably just keep posting content here since that's what the community wants. If they ban me for it then so be it, but I doubt it would make the subreddit a better place.

    [–]Mafia_of_Oranges 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

    It won't, that's for sure. It's honestly ridiculous; Reddit Admins should not be allowed to do this and even said they couldn't. Yet here they are, doing it anyway.

    [–]IroN_MiKe 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

    Oh no! Not TFTools!

    [–]Infu-P 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

    Is it still acceptable to link self-made posters through imgur?

    [–]lx45803 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

    Yes.

    [–]angrypotato1 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

    Imgur is always fine

    [–]lx45803 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    Dude, who'd you piss off? Every single one of your comments is buried.

    [–]Muselks 7 ポイント8 ポイント 前

    Reddit really needs to solidify their rules around what is acceptable conduct and what isnt. These gray areas are really gonna hurt the site, people will just be scared to submit content.

    Kinda related, being able to post content is a great way to get noticed when youve just started making things. I dont really post new videos here anymore, but I probably would never have gotten off the ground without reddit to help at the start.

    [–]allthefoxes 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

    I don't really see any gray area. The only "iffy" thing is the 10:1 guideline which is a bit shaky.

    But everything seems well defined to me at http://reddit.com/rules and http://reddit.com/w/selfpromotion

    [–]IAMA_dragon-AMA 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

    people will just be scared to submit content.

    Don't worry, there'll still be tons of "As a black man, I think black people are more racist than white people"-type "Unpopular" Opinion Puffins.

    [–]angrypotato1 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

    Although I don't think it is to grey in this issue, a clearer redefine is necessary, of which I have heard rumours of it coming

    [–]RichardJW 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

    I submit my own frag videos here quite often - thanks for the heads up.

    Does this count only for /r/tf2, or /r/truetf2 as well? They recently allowed link-based posts. I'm more concerned with the "1/10 posts" rule, and if it applies to just one sub-reddit, or multiple.

    [–]gamr1000 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

    inb4 admins delete thread and shadowban all the mods to cover this up.

    [–]MajesticTowerOfHats 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    There must be nothing better to do. Quick find exploits for them to fix.

    [–]angrypotato1 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

    you can get a sick hat in your reddit trophy case if you do

    [–]noformnocontent 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    but i cant trade this "reddit hat trophy" to other user for karma points? useless.

    [–]_JackDoe_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

    Hats are just as useful as karma.

    [–]angrypotato1 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

    Is it possible that these are auto shadowbans since reddit automatically bans users who submit to personal sites a lot (like blogs and specific youtube users)?

    [–]wickedplayer494[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    It may be possible that there's such a system in place, but the banning of multiple accounts simultaneously doesn't seem automated. How would it leave out accounts that submitted a link to an offending site once or twice (and that account isn't even affiliated with it)?

    [–]angrypotato1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

    Any official response from admins?

    /u/alienth /u/reddit /u/yishan

    [–]wickedplayer494[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

    Only a few: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/22t66a/looks_like_reddit_admins_have_shadowbanned_dcneil/cgqe01z?context=3

    http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/22t66a/looks_like_reddit_admins_have_shadowbanned_dcneil/cgqefga?context=3

    http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/22t66a/looks_like_reddit_admins_have_shadowbanned_dcneil/cgqeo3d?context=3

    And others. Seems they're keeping quite tight-lipped about it.

    [–]angrypotato1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

    Really not liking the rise in shadow banned users. Half of /r/centuryclub has been killed this week I swear.

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      [–]angrypotato1 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント 前

      It's automated to stop spammers. You can avoid this by only posting 10% of links from the same sites.

      Source: talk to karmawhores

      [–]Hackein 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

      Reddit admins have gone full censorship. Never go full censorship.

      [–]BuLbas_Prodigy 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

      why would you post this here? /r/dota2 has 20k more subs...

      [–]DownAnotherDay 14 ポイント15 ポイント 前

      your mod /u/wickedplayer494 is a big part (non-mod) of of /r/dota2 . I would guess he is worried about you guys. Also our mods have seemed to go radio silent on the issue. So thanks for putting up with us as he is the first to get a "response" from the admins. (that I have seen)

      [–]angrypotato1 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

      Because /r/tf2 may get effected as well

      [–]fraac -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

      Does this really affect tf2? It looks like they're bothered by companies.

      [–]angrypotato1 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

      It effects users and posters since they may get banned

      [–]allthefoxes -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

      No reason this should be stickied

      [–]ttmp3 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

      I cannot believe it.

      [–]Numel1 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

      Why were people getting banned earlier?

      [–]ledraps -2 ポイント-1 ポイント 前

      So Reddit Admins hate video games and their communities