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[–]testiclesofscrotum -36 ポイント-35 ポイント

Red square seems more sensible than green square...

Edit: what was I thinking, replying in this subreddit sorotity club

[–]AtheistImaPBSkid 13 ポイント14 ポイント

Disrespect is the minimum acceptable moral and reasonable response to that book.

[–]unglad 8 ポイント9 ポイント

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of GOD SPEAKING TO ME THROUGH PIZZA

[–]testiclesofscrotum -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

My bad...god does speak through awesome food!

[–]unglad 1 ポイント2 ポイント

REPENT! Lest you be down-voted

[–]testiclesofscrotum -1 ポイント0 ポイント

will a confession do?

[–]Dissimulate 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Meh, I don't think so. It may offend people, but I think those people just need to get a grip. You can't stop people doing anything with a book, what's the point of getting all offended over what other people do? Especially something as trivial as that. Just move on your life, if you believe they'll go to hell then so be it, it's not really any of their business.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that would be offended if it was a Harry Potter book too.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

I'm not saying that christians are 'right' in being offended, ofcourse it's just a book, I'm saying picking at someone like this just makes you a loser...i've literally pissed on holy things in my house just to get over the superstitious notion that it is divine, to try to free myself of my childhood conditioning...I totally know how much God cares about man-made objects...

edit: if it were a harry potter book, my position that the person posting the pic is a douche remains...

[–]Dissimulate 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Maybe he is a douche if he's doing it to intentionally offend, but it doesn't change anything I said. It really shouldn't be an issue, people shouldn't care no matter how religious they are. If no one cared, he'd have nothing to be a douche about. Perhaps he's not trying to offend and he just sees it how it is, a book. He might even believe in the Bible.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

of course it doesn't...the red square makes more sense because he is not trying to justify the hurting of sentiments, he is saying that its kinda evil to poke people that way knowing that it hurts...

Edit to your edit: not all christians who will be 'hurt' are gonna come out with pitchforks to hunt him down, some will just be hurt in silence. These are the people who didn't deserve it, and hurting them is just not right. It shouldn't be an issue, it isn't a big issue for me or you, i'm not even christian, but the world doesn't end at me or you. Somewhere, some reasonable person who happens to be christian has suddenly developed a bias against one atheist, and possibly every atheist, by seeing this in an intimidating light. I don't see this doing any good.

[–]Dissimulate 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Well as I said:

Perhaps he's not trying to offend and he just sees it how it is, a book. He might even believe in the Bible.

and it's probably quite a big possibility considering he has access to a Bible.

The red guy is stating how offensive it is. It shouldn't be offensive, that's my point. People taking offence to such trivial things is the stem of the issue, the comment in question is based on the premise that it is offensive. It shouldn't matter, there shouldn't be a reason why this guy is being "evil" if he even has any "evil" intentions at all. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's disrespectful in any way because it's simply a book, it might as well be any book, so I completely disagree with the comment that's based on that premise.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

I think expecting every christian not to be hurt by placing a pizza on the bible is a seriously high expectation, and I wonder if every atheist himself is as easily willing to let go emotions about something as close to him. If people believe something, if it happens to be an important thing in their life, and if they are willing to be totally personal about it, poking at them is wrong...

[–]Dissimulate 3 ポイント4 ポイント

That's not the same though. If someone was doing something disrespectful to a book about something close to me, or a copy of something close to me, I couldn't care less. Doesn't affect me or the thing that's close to me. If you did something disrespectful to someone's personal Bible, and they have an emotional attachment to the actual physical object then that's fair enough, but a Bible is just ink on paper, printed by humans. That could be another book with a Bible's cover on it and you wouldn't know any different, it has no special innate meaning or value. It's ridiculous to get offended about that.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

It's ridiculous to get offended about that.

Ok, now you are just deciding what other people should love...assume I am a tiger conservationist/lover...convince me that I shouldn't love every tiger on earth, and strive for its good health. Imagine me saying 'I will only love the tiger in my city zoo, because other tigers are not my tigers, and it is not possible for me to have emotional connection with any tiger except the one I have met in my city zoo'...dude...

[–]Dissimulate 2 ポイント3 ポイント

That's a terrible argument.

First of all, people do get attached to particular animals and care about them a lot more than any other of the same species, think about pets. So:

I will only love the tiger in my city zoo, because other tigers are not my tigers, and it is not possible for me to have emotional connection with any tiger except the one I have met in my city zoo

Is a completely valid statement.

Second of all, tigers are living things, harm can be done to them. There's a reason to care about someone physically disrespecting a tiger. I do love tigers, I would be angry (not offended, it's very different again) if someone did that because the tiger has an innate value (it's a living thing) and can experience it themselves.

There isn't a reason to care about someone doing something to some paper with ink on it that doesn't belong to you.

[–]imheretomeetmen 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The thing is, no one has the right not to be offended. If you go to a social forum, you might see something you disagree with. Just like you might hear something offensive on the bus, or on the subway. We can't live our own lives by the rules of other people, rules that mean absolutely nothing to us. It makes no sense. I've already said this, but I'm sure you don't refrain from eating beef simply because cows are sacred in parts of India(or if you do refrain, I doubt that is the reason). This is the same thing. It's a ridiculous notion that I should govern my actions based on what someone else's religion dictates.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

will you say the same thing to a Jew who gets uncomfortable by a public display of the swastika? that it's just man made symbolism? try convincing that to a Jew, especially if his family had suffered, irrespective of how awesomely reasonable and logical he is...if you publicly display the swastika, knowing that it will hurt him, he will be saddened, he may not be angry or intimidating, but he will surely be saddened by the intention.

Some people, or I should say Many people, are saddened by the tendency of another human to do something knowing that people who don't deserve to be hurt may be hurt in the process...

[–]Dissimulate 3 ポイント4 ポイント

That's completely different, it's a symbol that could invoke memories of something tragic. It's got nothing to do with someone disrespecting an object. This is putting a piece of pizza on a book.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

On an empirically emotional level, I see both instances as someone willing to hurt people by knowing that what he is doing will hurt some people's emotions...that is not a sign of an evolved mind. The entire premises of having an outspoken and assertively self-righteous subreddit called atheism is the belief that 'we' are somehow better than 'them' as humans...this incidence makes all that void.

[–]Atheisttiedstick 2 ポイント3 ポイント

The difference is that the swastika is being used to offend the victims of genocide and slavery and the Bible is being used to offend the people who believe in a book advocating genocide and slavery.

[–]testiclesofscrotum -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

No, no. See the context. I am asking about a situation where a person displays the swastika knowing that some jew can get hurt...forget the jews, consider the person who is doing the deed, focus on him. In both the cases, He choses to do something which will cause pain to people, many of who live their life silently. This is the only premises of me calling him a douche.

[–]Atheisttiedstick 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Person A is trying to hurt people because of genocide that happened to their people. That makes him a dick.

Person B is trying to hurt people because they believe in a book that advocates genocide. Person B is a bit immature, but the people who believe in the pro-genocide book DESERVE to be offended.