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Anyone want pizza? (self.atheism)

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[–]testiclesofscrotum -36 ポイント-35 ポイント-34 ポイント 8 時間前*

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[–]AtheistImaPBSkid 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 5 時間前

I don't see any need to downvote you, but you have a level of accommodation that I simply can't cotton to. I feel that it is permissible (obligatory, in fact) to tell the slavemaster that slavery is wrong, the child abuser that child abuse is wrong, the rapist that rape is wrong... This extends to those who hold up these actions as morally justified. It should not matter a single fuck if this criticism is offensive to them. Don't want to be offended by people pointing out your immorality? Be more moral!

I understand the need for social cohesion; it really is the basis for our society. I will grant that it is possible (inevitable even) that criticism of this type will completely fracture our society, lead to war, even. If you feel that this price is too much to pay, then all I can say is that I'm sorry, and I hope it doesn't come to that.

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[–]SargeantSpike 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間前*

Let me respond to your rant with a rant of my own. Because I couldn't disagree with you more.

People who believe things without evidence are often incredibly touchy. Why? Because they know, deep down, that their beliefs lack a solid foundation. So they get outraged over anything that challenges them, including reality itself. Look at this post, for example. Science presentations now come with warning labels, because someone might get offended by the truth!

I think it was G.K. Chesterton who said, "The test of a good religion is whether or not it can laugh at itself." While I question the idea that there's a "good religion," he has a point. The more wrong a religious person is, the sicker they are, the less able they are to take a joke. At the extreme, you have Muslim fundamentalists murdering people over a cartoon drawing. Why don't you reserve your outrage for that, and the other countless crimes of religious stupidity? No, you're right. Pizza on a book is what we should be upset about.

Do you know what the most brilliant minds in philosophy, literature, and almost every other field have in common? They're iconoclasts. Here's what that word means: "a person who attacks cherished beliefs, traditional institutions, etc., as being based on error or superstition." Now I'm not saying that pizza on a holy book is a shining example of iconoclastic brilliance. What I'm saying is that if we tip-toe around the truth because people's feelings might get hurt, we wouldn't have Darwin, Galileo, Nietzsche, Mark Twain, Bertrand Russel, Tom Paine, Thomas Jefferson, and an endless parade of others. They all said highly offensive things about religion. It shouldn't be blasphemous to point out the obvious, which is that religion is generally absurd.

Without iconoclasts speaking out against stupidity, we'd be living in a theocratic dark age. Do you know what satire is? It's humor that makes a point, often with an edge that illuminates stupidity at the cost of someone's feelings. Look at what Mark Twain had to say about religion. It was way more "offensive" than pizza on a Bible. The neat thing about satire is it works. It's probably a big part of the reason why religion is declining in direct proportion to Internet access.

Finally, let me remind you that this is an atheist forum. If you're sensibilities are really that delicate, then perhaps you should unsubscribe.

[–]SargeantSpike 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間前*

I really did not see the pizza on the bible achieving any intellectually convincing display of understanding

I don't see it as particularly brilliant myself, but the fact that you're upset about it highlights one of the biggest problems with religion, which is that it causes people to become so hypersensitive that they get hurt and offended over everything. Religion makes symbols and dogmas so sacred that its followers get enraged when others don't treat them with kid gloves. These idiotic symbols are held to be so sacred, that they become more important than people. Believers will kill over them. A picture of Mohammed becomes more important than another person's life.

If you're offended over a silly picture of pizza, then that means something is wrong with you. That means you should take a close look at yourself and try to figure out why something as simple as a food item on a book causes so much distress for you. It doesn't mean the rest of the world should walk on egg shells around your delusional sense of the sacred.

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[–]testiclesofscrotum -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 4 時間前

You didn't even say anything about what the majority of my post was about. Good going.

I am sorry, I won't run away from a discussion.

He posted this to his tumble, which is probably followed by people with similar interests and beliefs. I don't think someone would post this on the tumblr if it was one of the many pokemon pages.

so........................Similar interests and beliefs justifies one's actions.....

I will say that there are places I would call him an asshole if he put it there. If he posted the picture on /r/christianity, then that would he disrespectful. Being posted here wouldn't really be.

I agree...here it is not, but from a neutral standpoint, I feel, and most of us will agree, that self-righteous mocking and hurting others doesn't really display a matured individual. I have no problem with this posted in this sub, in fact, I upvoted it! I talked as a hindu, completely not christian or atheist.

And I got that from what you said.

Please teach me the science of deduction.

Apperantly the red person makes more sense than green person.

....the extent someone will go to protect a person of his belief system! almost reminds me of religion.

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That's a terrible argument.

First of all, people do get attached to particular animals and care about them a lot more than any other of the same species, think about pets. So:

I will only love the tiger in my city zoo, because other tigers are not my tigers, and it is not possible for me to have emotional connection with any tiger except the one I have met in my city zoo

Is a completely valid statement.

Second of all, tigers are living things, harm can be done to them. There's a reason to care about someone physically disrespecting a tiger. I do love tigers, I would be angry (not offended, it's very different again) if someone did that because the tiger has an innate value (it's a living thing) and can experience it themselves.

There isn't a reason to care about someone doing something to some paper with ink on it that doesn't belong to you.

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