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June 2014. Info release on 11/28 >>
>>9658566 (OP) Please don't be on Vita or PS4...else I may have to buy one>>
>>9658575 I'll probably skip it if that's the case. Took me this long to buy my first DS.>>
>>9658575 PS4 with Vita instant-continue, anywhere in the world as long as you have broadband internet to connect to said PS4. Complete with DLC extras.>>
>>9658575 I really doubt it, they just started releasing games for PS3 about a year ago.>>9658566 (OP) Although this really looks suspicious. I think I'll call bullshit.>>
I'm getting hard already. >>
>>9658584 Don't forget a PS3 release with no Vita-instant continue.>>
>Aquarion EVOL and Ao are likely both going to be in it I'm sorry but those are literally deal ruiners to me>>
>>9658598 But you never know; they might redo the entire storyline like they did SEED; even if it's not canon.>>
>>9658598 >not wanting AO in SRW >not wanting ESCAAAAAPE KONO KAZE NI or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=firy f8SCJWc
[Embed ] as BGMs >not wanting that sexy Nirvash Mk. I as a unit >not wanting Nirvash Spec2/Nirvash SpecV3/Nirvash Mk. I team attack >not wanting potential plot fix >>
>>9658598 Isn't SRW known for fixing bad shows?>>9658585 Yeah, we already had one fake Z3 thread today, I'm going to wait.>>
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No. 9658609 >>9658598 Wait until the announcement before you decide who is and isn't in it.>>
>>9658604 The last point is all that matters. The rest not so much.>>
>>9658615 Come on, it's still not as bad as the movie. And even if they don't fix it, it's a great series to use for units and BGMs.>>
>>9658602 All they'd have to do is fix the later half of EVOL anyways.>>
>>9658606 Only after their initial appearance. They play them 100% straight the first time they show up
Seed Destiny just lucked out that it's first showing was in Scramble Commander 2 : so most people only experienced it for the first time in SRW with Z That's why Code Geass was so hard to swallow in Z2, because they played it nearly completely straight with the "fix" barely being much better.>>
VF-kun
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No. 9658624 >>9658622 For a community that's largely made up by people who can't speak the language, you sure do come up with some interesting theories.>>
>>9658618 Brave Blue is a great OP too, but it doesn't have the immediate explosiveness as a BGM that Escape would have.>>
>>9658622 Dunno, J made Brain Powered pretty tolerable.>>
>>9658626 You do realize that Alpha 2 was before J, right?>>
>>9658632 SHOOTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>>
>>9658628 The only translated SRW I've played is SRWJ. (Other than OG 1 & 2). All I know is J took the plot of a bad show, and made it work. I don't even know if Alpha 2 was translated or not. All I can say is the game I played made Brain Powered Decent, and that's a feat.>>
>>9658639 I don't actually remember J doing anything with it other than cutting down the conversation (which means less incredibly roundabout explanations for stuff which is one of the biggest flaws of the show), but that might be because I haven't played J in a while and that I watched that show after the game.>>
>>9658639 All I was pointing out was that your comment was irrelevant to the post you were replying to, since he was specifically talking about shows' first appearances in SRW, and J wasn't the first appearance of brain powered.>>
>Release for VITA >Use VITA TV to play on big screen >Save data transferable to PS3 >New OG games use save data to unlock bonus >Perfect >>
>>9658681 Too bad Vita TV is not coming to the west (yet?)>>
It'll be cool if they finish up the rest of TTGL's plot, too bad TTGL itself will probably be avaliable for even less time than Valcazard was in W. And if STTGL is in at all it'll only be as an attack. Hell, TTGL might only be an attack for Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann. As long as Big O is still in it and it's on the PS3 I don't care what else happens, delicious 2nd OG-tier animations are all I want. >>
>>9658639 Brain Powered was a good show. Maybe you should watch it before saying something like that.>>
>>9658691 I could deeeefinitely see how someone might not like it though. It has to be the weirdest thing Tomino has ever directed.>>
Quick everyone make predictions for the series list. >>
>Although this really looks suspicious. I think I'll call bullshit. It's TGS2013 time. Anything could happen.>>
>>9658695 Star Driver, Vandread, Rayearth, Sakura WarsPredictions? I thought you meant 'vain hopes' >>
>>9658695 Star Driver hopefully I want GunXSword and Godannar to make a return so they can actually get voiced.>>
>>9658700 Also live broadcast for TGS2013 http://live.nicovideo.jp/?header>>
>>9658704 Speaking of K, Gaiking desperately needs a voiced appearance too. Shame about Lulu's VA.>>
Sorry guys,but 11/28 has nothing to do with the announcement of Z3. It's just the release date of Infinite Battle. That is the promotional plan for that game. From what I can see,it just say that they plan to have specials on dangeki online for the next 6 months that will be about several srt games(not only Z3,but even OE,MK3 and Infinite Battle). Anyway,it could always be a fake >>
Isn't this a Vita game? I remember there was a list that was making the rounds about a Vita SRW game and it had Masou Kishin, SRW OE, and some other games. Anyone have it? >>
I will be there for you guys. >>
>>9658736 I never really hated you since you had a bitching mech, an awesome theme and I can't into moonspeak>>
>>9658723 A source just in case people start asking: http://blog.esuteru.com/lite/archiv es/7323822.html Don't recall this site ever lying. Heck, they were one of the first to break Z2.2 news.>>
I just want Zessica to be happy and I want Ao to meet his other siblings and be able to live with his parents... >>
>>9658681 >releasing SRW on system with small install base Why do you think it took so long to release on PSP and PS3?>>
Alright guys. Are we gonna get Z Holland or Z2 Holland >>
>>9658695 Dual! Muv-Luv alternative Bokurano Any Eldoran show Dairugger XV Daikengo Bismark Madhouse's Iron Man>>
>http://gematsu.com/2013/09/tokyo-g ame-show-2013-live-stream-schedule >12:15 to 13:00 – Super Robot Wars OG Infinite Battle Special Stage – A game introduction featuring guests Hikaru Midorikawa, Ryotaro Okiayu, and B.B. Studio’s Takanobu Terada. better ready>>
>>9658615 >The rest not so much. But the Mark I is so damn sexy!>>
>>9658566 (OP) What the hell else does it say they're announcing? Something about Bandai Channel and an OG Anime?>>
>>9658791 Ah forgot to add the stage is on 22 sep after Tekken stage and Gundam musou and Breaker>>
IMHO it will be based expecially on the originals.Some plot for the old series is still missing,and with 5 more sphere holders and Baan still out there's there's a lot of original plot to cover My prediction is sequel of some Z series...Endless Waltz,Eureka AO,Aquarion Evol. Then They will probably use a new gundam series >>
>Z3 >Brasta gets even more broken >Crowe gets even more in debt >The final boss will bleed money for Crowe to never be in debt again >Gundam UC, Eureka AO, SDF Macross, Gundam 00 Movie,
Shin Mazinkaiser (or Shin Kouji in Mazinkaiser) , Gundam ZZ, Endless Waltz and Akito the Exiled>Kallen and Gurren Lagann gets even more broken >Playable Antispiral after some UNDERSTANDING > Half Life 3 confirmed >>
Frozen Teardrop suits as bonus secrets for the Wing cast. (Cause they sure as hell ain't gonna use the actual story) >>
So what has been announced, or is this all just Trolls Trolling Trolls? >>
>>9658806 They could try to fix the story... inb4 unfixable>>
Anyone got a direct link to the Banpresto live stream? >>
>>9658820 >http://tgs2013.bandainamcogames.co .jp/live_tv/ right now they doing presentation of F2P shit, the interesting thing is on 21-22>>
>>9658832 So the whole Z3 and OG Anime stuff were fake?>>
>>9658841 Nothing about that right now. If anything the picture is promotion plan stuff. its listed something about dengeki online. there is something about 6 month>>
>>9658695 No prediction list but I so very much want them to put Tekkaman Blade in.>Having DBoy and Chirico running around as the untouchable SS destroyers. >>
>>9658714 Tomoko Kawakami also voiced Luna in Godannar. Feels bad.>>
S-So it was fake? My hype reached maximum before it all came TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOOOWN >>
>>9658566 (OP) Way to derp out.
First of all the image is NOT referring to Z3, but something else (the title being not in the image) that is being RELEASED on 11/28 (発売予定). Note how TGS 2013 is fucking right there under September which kind of suggests the image is for this year. The stuff about Z2 just says that they're going to carry out promotional stuff on Dengeki Online for six months, and Z3 will be covered there.>>
>>9658924 >OG IB >Release date: 11/28 There you go.>>
>>9658924 The fact that it even mentions Z3 is a big deal though.>>
>>9658936 Learn to read dumbfuck.>The stuff about Z2 just says that they're going to carry out promotional stuff on Dengeki Online for six months, and Z3 will be covered there. >>
>>9658945 OP's dates are total bullshit though. "June" is taken from "six month promo site" and 11/28 is the date of fucking IB.>>
電撃オンラインでの特設運営 Special on Dengeki Online (OE Masoukishin 3 IFB Z3) 6ヶ月予定 Scheduled for six months Oh and note how part of it is under August? That's because the site is already up. http://dengekionline.com/pr/srw/ >>
>>9658951 I can't find it in myself to actually care, when we have Z3 info coming down the pipeline in the months to come.>>
>>9658955 Nobody gives a shit about what you care bro>>
>>9658704 >>9658714 >tfw Gaiking and GxS both missed the boat for Z I guess Dimensional Fuckery dilutes the point, but GxS feels like it should've been in Z1 and GLODM would've worked so well in Z2 paired with Gurren Lagann it's not funny. I'd love to see them both in Z3, sure- I could use another Dann of Thursday and Gaiking The Great rampage in my life- but I don't think they're happening.Of course, I've been wrong before... >>
>>9658622 >That's why Code Geass was so hard to swallow in Z2, because they played it nearly completely straight with the "fix" barely being much better. For you, that is. Actually, I'd say it was easier to handle, for a couple of reasons. One, simply by giving you an option to skip the last few episodes. Two, because earlier parts of the story were mixed in pretty well with other shows. Just because they didn't turn everything on its head doesn't justify ignoring positive details, unless you simply irrationally hate it.>>
>Missed the boat Biggest missed the boat is fucking FMP for Z2 damn it. Wing TV and 00 and Dancouga Nova and Votoms? COME ON.>>
So was all the talk about an OG anime just bullshit? >>
I'd just be happy if I could play Z2, much less Z3. Can't get it to work. >>
So...where is my new 3DS SRW? >>
>>9659118 >3DS No thanks. I have nothing against the 3DS but fuck that region lock bullshit.>>
>>9659118 We literally just had it a few months ago...>>
>>9659125 >I have nothing against the 3DS except the thing I hate about the 3DS. Oh you.>>
>>9658786 >Muv-Luv alternative You mean Total Eclipse, right?>>
>>9658972 Integrating FMP to Z2 seems kinda hard. Although I can see the field trip (where Kaname gets kidnapped) would be played as going from Okinawa, Japan to "Okinawa", Area 11 where Gauron, some mooks from Votoms are waiting.>>
>>9658695 Mecha Series to be added: Dougram Patlabor AmDriver (We'll get plenty of SS classes to cheat through Z3) Armored Core V Virtual On Operation Moongate AGE S1>>
>>9659148 Nope, we VN now. So rake up those romance points if you want that high damage finisher!>>
>>9659141 What in blazes are you going on about? I HAVE a 3DS but I'd rather have an SRW that doesn't need me to buy an entirely new 3DS altogether.>>
>>9659166 That's asking for too much! When was the last time did romance points play a role in SRW, Alpha? Also, wouldn't that make those BETA a strain of Jigenjuu/Dimensional-Beasts? How would those pesky Laser-types be handled (kills any airborne units, low HP, behind massive swarm forcing your long-range allies to circle the field and snipe them)?>>
>>9659176 There was that one mission in SRW A where you assault cannon from Nadesico that OHKOs any unit that happens to be in the air during the enemy phase. It was pretty interesting to have this sort of mission. But I can see that it also can be tiring to have such missions often if they make Laser class instantly take down any airborne unit.>>
>>9659183 Yeah, I was thinking of that on how those Laser Types can be handled. Other BETAs will probably have infinite respawn when reduced to a certain number. Thinking up of a strategy of taking the Laser-types kinda makes me reminisce of F's Getter-2's Drill Arm (4 ammo but range is 1~7): burrow underground, head to a safe place to snipe the laser types.>>
>>9659176 >When was the last time did romance points play a role in SRW >>
>>9658695 There's probably won't be too many new series, since the cast list is already overburdened to hell. Eureka AO and Aquarion Evol are both basically shoe-ins. Maybe ZZ and Unicorn. Besides that, I wouldn't really count on there being much in the way of new series.>>
>>9659166 >We VN now Featuring new character archetypes! Childhood Friend Type: -Initial stat bonus -High resistance to NTR attacks -Unique "First Time" ability boost When using Bond -Recommended for beginners Harem Lead Type -Weak on it's own -High number of support slots -Big R(omance) point pool. -Massive bonus to group attacks Violate type -Massive bonus to aggressive skills (mind-break, enslave) -Invulnerable to Befriending and Understanding. -Little benefit from R points, and character bonds -Can initiate devastating 'Gang" attack with characters of the same type nearby -Recommended to experienced players>>
You know what would be the best weapons against Dimensional Beasts??
Jaegers >>
>>9659176 >When was the last time did romance points play a role in SRW, Alpha? Z2-2>>
QUICK WHAT ARE YOUR BANPRES OG NAME PREDICTIONS -Borglegod -Minnstrei -Ron Paulo -Hugast >>
>Z3 >Great-hen >New Getter >Nobuyuki Hiyama I want to believe>>
>>9659218 For Real : Schweizerghast Vathala Yian Shin-Hei Nissroc For Super :
Daihurricane Big Jim Rokuriser>>
>>9659205 Oh, goody, similar to the 4/4S/F-Final and Alpha, right? Male Personality Archetypes: Hot-Blooded, Flirty/Affectionate-to-Females, Weirdo, Cool/Nihilistic, Dense/Slow-witted, Chivalrous Pervert Female Personality Archetypes: Childhood Friend, Tsundere, Kuudere, Dandere, Ojou-sama, Strict/ClassRep Now, which male archetype goes with which female archetype. The old-one was complementary (Hot-Blooded x Weirdo, Affectionate to the Opposite sex x Cool/Nihilistic), right?>>
>>9659205 I'd go for Childhood friend everytime.>>
>>9658602 >But you never know; they might redo the entire storyline like they did SEED Yep, just how did they with Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, and 00S2. I remember when we got to save Lockon and Kamille and Euphie wasn't brought back in such an ass backwards way. Fighting the Anti Spiral nemesis along with Dynames and Kamina wa truly something wasn't it guys?>>
>>9659230 But Violate probably has anti barrier/shield skills Necessary for crushing obnoxious bosses.>>
We need one if the Z3 protags to be someone who is not involved with the Sphere's in any way. He/She relies purely on his own skill and mech equipment, unlike Rand whose mech is eventually powered by a Sphere. I would like this kind of underdog protag. >>
>>9659246 That said, Z2 was extremely poor on secrets. The only other SRW that had this small number of secrets is MX. But, unlike Z2, MX had pretty cool crossover moments to keep you interested.>>
>>9659262 But Ibis will never love you. brb commiting sudoku>>
>>9658602 Stop giving me why boners, Zessikage.>>
Bringing the thread back on topic. Z3, real or not? >>
>>9659281 There's no way it's real, unless Banpresto has become Activision.>>
>>9659305 Well thats my day ruined, brb suicide.>>
>>9658604 Personally I prefer "stand by me" but we all know that's not going to happen. Banpresto had 2 chances to include Rock Yo Mind as Dancouga MAXGOD's bgm, but didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmr n-WXsoCQ
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>>9659305 >>9659310 I wouldn't say it was fake yet. The picture is timeline how B.B studio going to do promotional stuff from august to december. Stuff like when PV going to be aired, website placing, search engine partnership, gaming website/magazine info. The OG anime probably re-run or broadcasted on bandai channel. The way i see it we probably getting info of either OE, MK3, Infinite Battle, and Z3 on september to december. So it's back to waiting for info>>
>>9658622 Tell that to Trider G7, Tetsujin 28, VOTOMS, Dancouga, Braiger, Bazingar, Sasuraiger, and Goshogun. Those series had very little to no story in their first appearance.>>
>>9659417 >VOTOMS What? You got Pailsen Files flashback, The Last Red Shoulder mission and complete TV series plot in Z2.>>
If Z3 does come out in 2014 Spring/Summer then it will have been 2 years since Z2: Saise-hen Seems like a long enough time for a sequel. Time between Z1 and Z2.1 was 2.5 years. >>
My only concern is which platform the game will be on. I recall an old post on /m/ saying Banpresto wanted to use the same Game Engine on all 3 games in the Z franchise. But the PS2 dying meant they had to jump ship to the PSP for Z2. I wonder if they will stay on the PSP or move on over to Vita/PS3. If they do then they have alot of work to do to bring the sprites up to a level that can match the greatness of OG2nd. >>
>>9659459 It won't be that hard because OG2nd is the only games thats come out since Z that looks better than it. UX and OE aren't very strong in the graphical department.>>
We've had Virgola - Virgo Gunleon - Leo Brasta/Librasta - Libra Arietis - Aries Chaos Capra real name of Eliphas(Xine's unit) - Capricorn >>
So what can we expect on Z3 that comes from the end of Z2?>Anti Spirals is not dead completely >Somehow, Getter story is not over despite it's already is >Chirico and Fyana is not in deep sleep capsule yet (Probable Big Battle OVA) >ELS is approaching >Endless Waltz (Maybe) >I think Wrong Tetsujin story is not over yet. >>
>>9659497 They'll find a way to make the game entirely revolve around shit like 00 (Probably the movie) and Code Geass.>>
>>9659501 I think it's more probably that it'll spin around the OG plot completely.>>
Char's Counterattack will no doubt finally get it. They've been poking at Quattro going down a dark path throughout Z2. >>
>>9659482 Some possible names: Siagattrux - Saggitarius Pisceon - Pisces Taudeos - Taurus Mingenis - Gemini Korpeos - ScorpioAquarion
- Aquarius>>
>>9659512 They hinted at CCA back in Z1 already, but Z2 came and went and nothing.>>
>>9659512 Weren't the last few games doing their hardest to ensure Char doesn't turn CCA? Z1 had Char looking at the black history and being horrified at what he and Amuro saw. Z2 by the end had him lamenting that he will not make the same mistakes Zechs and Treize did.>>
>>9659512 Please no more CCA I'm sick of them shoe horning it in so that their precious Amuro won't become useless. Wait....Isn't Nu Gundam already in Z2?>>
>>9659547 You're right, he won't make the same mistakes
when he does something wicked >>
>>9659512 >They've been poking at Quattro going down a dark path throughout Z2. Wrong, actually. His entire development in Z2 was about him making sure he didn't go down the same path as Zechs or Treize did. Z1 had him learn what he would do, and he vowed he wouldn't.
Z2 just reinforces that. If anything, I can see them doing CCA plot but with someone else maybe. Maybe including saying Gyunei as the big bad? Oh, sorry. That was a bad joke.>>
>>9659560 >Gyunei as the big bad? >Gyunei anything OUT NOW>>
>>9659552 Char, eat a Snickers. Because when you act like a diva you tend to get rather emotional and frankly a whining bitch.>>
>>9659442 They skipped the Sunsa arc though and the Quent arc only had one level.>>
>>9659560 Gundam Unicorn Full Frontal and his Sleeves replacing Char's group in the mission to drop Axis.>>
I'm amazed Gekiganger still hasn't been in >>
>>9658575 Why? You want it on the region-locked not yet jailbroken 3DS so nobody can play it outside Nippon? This better be on the Vita.>>
>>9659594 As much as I want Gekiganger I still would rather not have it then let Nadesico make another appearance and clutter my party with boring units.>>
>>9659595 I was hoping for the PSP or PS3 (mostly PS3)>>
>>9658695 G Gundam GaoGaiGar Machine Robo Hot blood or go home.>>
>>9659601 I wouldn't care if it were on the PSP but having it on the Vita would be better. It's really an amazing handheld that didn't deserve to die the way it did.>>
The pic looks legit as fuck. How do we know if it's fake? >>
>>9659599 Nah, just Gekiganger, Nadesico has been in way too many times recently and the only worthwhile unit from it is the battleship.>>9659604 I hope these happen>>
>>9659605 Is there CFW on the Vita yet or do I have to import those games too?>>
>>9659606 The pic is legit.
the date no, it was date for infinite battle.>>
>>9659611 >Nadesico has been in way too many times recently
>recently The last game was W, and that was 2007. That was not 'recent.'>>
>>9659604 >G Gundam Nah, getting pretty tired of G Gundam>GGG It hasn't been in a lot of games, as long as it gives me a decent Mic Sounders this time.>Machine Robo Fuck yeah.>>
>>9659547 Yeah, he won't make the same mistakes.
He'll succeed. >>
>>9659617 Yeah and it was in a few games in a row before that.>>
>>9659617 The units are still boring as fuck. The ship can come if it wants to but Akito and his waifu harem stays inside.>>
>>9659619 I just want G Gundam's "Gundam Fight" plot in a SRW instead of just the Devil Gundam>>
>>9659619 But Mic was great in W. The only issue was his will requirements.>>
>>9659630 >will requirements >W You get masses of pilots with rouse there.>>
>>9658686 it's not like the vita tv is going to be region locked.>>
>>9659616 So what does the 3 something Z say? Not related to Z3 then?>>
>>9659617 People are burned out because there was a time where Nadesico was in damn near every game. Though Macross Frontier is just as bad or perhaps even worse in this regard, yet it doesn't get much hate.>>
>>9659633 Not really until towards the end of the game. And even then it's usually more important to get the MazinBros, Valguard/Valcazard, Getter, and GGG up first more than the guy that's basically a pimped out support unit.>>
Gundam Unicorn. Full Frontal and the Sleeves replaces Char's group in dropping Axis. >>
>>9659645 I've never used a Macross Frontier unit unless I've had to. That shit is terrible, and they will never be as useful as Basara.>>
>>9659645 I'm sick of both of them. I'd still take Macross over Nadeisco though.>>
>>9659616 Wait NOW the pic is legit? Which is it? Say it to me straight, I don't care if the date is wrong but does this confirm that Z3 is a thing and we will see it sometime soon? STOP TOYING WITH MY HEART!>>
>>9659512 I think Endless Waltz will also included in CCA storyline seeing how Treize gives Quattro funny ideas. And then in the middle of Axis drop. ELS crashed the party and ruin everything>>
>>9659560 Let's just do this the SRW D way. He forms Neo Zeon and becomes the SUPREME COMMANDER of the unified mecha force next to Zero and have anti-hero adventures together. I just want an allied Sazabi/Nightingale damnit.>>
>>9659685 Of course Z3 is a thing. It's basically confirmed that it's something thats going to happen. That pic however, is not the one you're looking for if you want a date.
Maybe next year.>>
>>9659246 Generally the first time a major series is represented story-wise they play it straight. Only later on do they fuck around with it.>>
>>9659731 They'd better not play Aquarion Evol straight the first time, or ever.>>
>>9659552 Z, Z2 and etc. Stupid people in Japan don't realize Amuro doesn't need Nu Gundam to wreck half the game mostly. Not that MAIN TITLE being present isn't always a plus in my book.>>
>>9659512 Have Black History Char travel through time to the present day. That way, they can do CCA and keep Quattro good.>>
>>9659627 Funny, it's the ship and the crew I take issue with. Maybe if the aestivalis has a cross gattai with a getter machine it would be cool again...>>
>>9659745 If it debuts in Z3, they kinda can't. In the Z-verse, Apollo IS Apollonius . If anything, it'd be altered a good bit but possibly still retain the very basic plot (the Abductor stuff) but the reincarnation shenanigans would have to be changed up.>>
>>9659269 Ibis is too flat for my liking. If she had a bigger cup, and had longer hair, then sure.>>
>>9659655 I love it. Could do a ZZ/Unicorn plot. Haman's all like "You never loved me Char so I built my very own Char to conquer Earth with!">I mean who the fuck names a Char clone Full Frontal anyway aside from a pining neurotic fujoshi >>
>>9659676 >A unit that some stages cannot literally attack anything is more useful than the Macross F units And I agree with you.>>
>>9658622 >Seed Destiny just lucked out that it's first showing was in Scramble Commander 2 : so most people only experienced it for the first time in SRW with Z Scramble was an experimental title and it barely had a plot whatsoever, SEED Destiny was put in to elevate sales much like Rebuild was added in to L.>>
>>9659783 Rebuild was in L? That explains the diamond thingy... I was too busy murdering entire civilizations with Iczer-1 to notice.>>
>>9659731 >Generally the first time a major series is represented story-wise they play it straight. Linebarrels, Zeorymer, Virtual-On, Aquarion, Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid, Fafner says hi!>>
>>9659775 >Haman's so butthurt over Char she builds a clone to have mad sex with. You think she wears the mask in bed?>>
>>9659816 I said "generally" not "all the fucking time" But more often than not. Also, handhelds.>>9659817 Wouldn't you?>>
>>9659782 Nekki Basara has never not been ludicrously strong in SRW. Also, Battle 7 crew in Z3, please. Screw Gamlin, I want my Max and Miria.>>
>>9659783 >and it barely had a plot whatsoever The plot in Scramble Commander is as in-depth as any SRW game's.>>
>>9659246 >legitimately thinking they would have brought Kamina back Why did people assume this was going to be a secret? It's kind of important to the fucking plot.>>
>>9659840 >But more often than not. Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Grendizer, Getter Robo, Getter Robo G, Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta Gundam, ZZ Gundam, F91 Gundam, Char's Counterattack says hi!>>
>>9659865 Yeah. We're not even talking about Gai Daigouji important. Gai just needs to seem like he's dead for a while and Akito gets his necessary development. Kamina being dead is important all the way to the very, very end of the series and movies with Super TTGL being a tribute to the deceased.>>
>>9659884 Super Robot Taisen 1 had no story. And it it literally impossible to play any Dynamic Pro storyline "straight">>
>>9659884 >Bringing up SRW 1 and 2 Come on, man.>>
>>9659884 Actually, Toei's Mazinger Z STILL hasn't had a straight entry. It always either starts in medias res with Dr. Hell being a side villain and complete chump change, or they skip straight to Great or Grendizer with Kouji tagging along.>>
>>9659865 >>9659890 >Fanfiction story that brings about different series in a seemingly illogical crossover that doesn't make sense to begin with >Uh.....no you can't do that! That's against the rules! >>
>>9659913 Or sometimes they are just there wiht no mention of Hell, Asura or any of them except in passing. Just Super Robots supplementing other SR stories being played out.>>
>>9659909 Unlikely. AGE is just screaming to be put in the next big SRW trilogy with each generation taking up one of the games. (Alongside Gunbuster and Diebuster, Banpresto please.) After its debut, sure, we may see in media res representations of AGE where we get thrown into Gen 2 with Flit already a well-represented badass a la every damn game with Z/ZZ/CCA, but hopefully not before that.>>
>>9659865 >>9659890 Four Murasame, Musashi and a few others. And besides, it's not like he can't be a final stage all skill point hard mode reinforcement.>>
>>9659931 >Unlikely. AGE is just screaming to be put in the next big SRW trilogy Bamco can't even put the AGE-1 in EXVS FB a year after it ended, what makes you think they're gonna put it in an SRW game?>>
>>9659936 Inb4 Four and Musashi deaths had no impact to the character's development which is bullshit.>>
>>9659936 Four's death wasn't nearly as important to the plot as Kamina's, and more often than not Musashi either dies in the game or offscreen.>>
>>9659816 L used the linebarrels anime nearly 1 to 1. Then UX had the manga author on board for the original machina plotline>>
>>9659946 Different kind of character development. As long as Kamina is around, Simon will always lack the resolve to become a man because his bro is always around to save him in the end. The biggest part of young Simon's character development is when he finally learns to accept that Kamina is dead and he has to stand on his own.>>
>>9659950 Sure it is. In the way it makes the Zeta Gundam an infinitely better unit than Gurren Lagann>>
>>9659958 >Simon will always lack the resolve to become a man because his bro is always around You clearly have nowhere near as much faith in Simon as his bro did.>>
>>9659957 >L used the linebarrels anime nearly 1 to 1. Yeah...there's that thing with Soubi which is kinda a big deal.>>
>>9658695 New Century Zero IGPX G Gundam Daigunder>>
>>9658695 something gundam something mazinger something getter>>
>>9659957 >L used the linebarrels anime nearly 1 to 1. Yes and no. The changed elements from the anime to fit into the game's plot one of which was making Soubi a good guy from the get go, this was also a change in theLinebarrels PSP game.>>
>>9659969 You cant even save him until when its over. Everything else is from the anime>>
>>9659968 It's definitely arguable that you could fit Simon's character development into a well-written SRW game even if Kamina came back after almost dying a la Gai Daigouji, but I think it's a difficult enough story matter to handle that there's no point risking the screw-up in Gurren Lagann's SRW debut. Have you ever been able to save Musashi in a game that wasn't basically Banpresto writing whatever goddamn plot they wanted for the Getters?>>
>>9659982 No? You can save him way before the end.>>
>>9659982 >You cant even save him until when its over. Bullshit.>>
>>9659638 >>9659685 Just Z3, its a thing but that's it. It will happen sooner or later but it's there, probably after Infinite battle out we got more info. Since the plan stretch to december>>
>>9659989 Soubi doesnt even join until the final stage of the plot in l and that's if you go for the secret>>
>>9659988 IIRC, the only games that actually let you save Musashi are @2 and A, and even then @3 just ignored that anyway.>>
>>9659988 But that's how they save people. And it's not difficult, we're talking about videogames based on shonen anime. That is almost the easiest thing to write for. Just make Evoluder Gai bring him back with COURAGE or something. You think fans wouldn't go SUPER FUCK YEAH at that concept? The sky is the limit here, you can literally hackjob anime together to make plot-holes disappear.>>
>>9659982 >Everything else is from the anime Soubi's characterization is pretty different in L then it was in the anime. In the anime, he was pretty much a dick. In the PSP game and L, he's a mix of both. L's version probably has something to do with Wufei being in Katou for a bit too. There's a reason you're able to convince Soubi with Wufei.>>
>>9660002 That's not getting rid of plot holes, that's just creating new ones.>>
Oh yeah, add this to the list of "Series in Z3": Heroic Age >>
SD Gundam Three Kingdoms makes it's debut with it's plot done and has Liu Bei, Sun Quan and Cao Cao on the same side. >>
>>9660012 Which you then use other plot-holes to explain the new ones. rinse, repeat and by the time anyone catches wise to it, the title theme is playing on the end stage and we're all going "SKIIIIILLLLLLL MY HEARRRRRRRRRRRRT" to much to care anyway.>>
>>9660015 Sorry for observing good character development.>>
>>9660005 >implying that Soubi isnt a missable in L and joins late as fuck. Read after the final route split 2 seconds on Akurasu would tell you that>>
>>9660019 That's the sensible way to do things. SRW's writers when they're on their game take the anal fanboy "go over everything with a fine brush" approach. And I love them for it.>>
>>9660024 >good character development >YOU MUST FOLLOW HOW IT WAS DONE IN STORY! NO EXCEPTIONS Thank god for Disadvantage Game.>>
>>9660028 >Akurasu I'm sorry! I thought you knew Japanese.>>
>>9660034 >implying we didn't all cream our pants a little when Gai Daigouji got a new portrait and Aestivalis for Prince of Darkness in W. >implying we should expect that kind of work in every game. >>
>>9660024 Good thing the Z team didn't listen to you while reconstructing Seed Destiny's plot in Z1 or else we wouldn't even be able to play as Shinn.>>
>>9660042 >SEED Destiny >Good character development Thanks for the laugh.>>
>>9660041 >>implying we should expect that kind of work in every game W...why not? Especially when it's a main line title and not a shitty spin-off like UX?>>
>>9660045 Yes that was the joke. Had they listened to you GSD would have stayed the same as the anime in Z1.>>
>>9660054 >UX >shity spin off >not having more work done on it than z2 Even OE had more work on it than z2>>
Before you faggots keep asking for Vita SRW you better remember just how badly Masoukishin is doing on it. Even PS3 SRW isn't guaranteed because Masoukishin failed there too and 2ndOG failed to meet Bandai Namco's expectations. >>
>>9660058 >more work done on it >shitty animations everywhere >boring crossovers
LEL>>
>>9660058 How's that buyer's remorse treating you? Still using your Japanese 3DS and UX game SD as paperweights?>>
>>9660064 >Implying you can read Japanese >Implying you even played the game >>
>>9660054 Because they're already doing great work and SRW is already a series plagued by delays. Didn't we only get one Norse Rei in 2nd OG because they couldn't finish putting in all the Masoukishin cast? I guess if it's that important to you, you could write angry letters and not buy the games, but let's be honest here, most of us won't do that. We'll take what we get, like it, and have about enough complaints to occasionally gripe on the internet.>>
>>9660068 I'm enjoying my fifth runthrough right now, thanks! I hope you'll stop being so poor by the time the next 3DS SRW comes out.>>
>>9660063 >Before you faggots keep asking for Vita SRW you better remember just how badly Masoukishin is doing on it. Masoukishin does badly on every platform, it's not really a series you can accurately gauge sales predictions for since it's a niche within a niche.>>
>>9660064 Sounds a lot like z2.>shitty animations Sure, the animation was generally pretty smooth, but the attack choreography was shit.>boring crossovers Other than basic stuff like Ryoma and Kamina being bros, or Setsuna and Heero being Gundam, Z2 didn't really have much in the way of crossovers.>>
>>9660073 >by the time the next 3DS SRW comes out. >implying
Not with those shit sales.>>
>>9660076 No, this time it did even worse than before. It sold twice as much on DS and PSP and this time it came out on two consoles.>>
>>9660077 Setsuna and Heero were the best thing from Z2. They should have just done "The Setsuna and Heero Show", and have them go on misadventures.>>
>>9660073 The delusion is hitting this guy hard it seems. He seems to think that they're gonna make another SRW 3DS title after sUXs bombed.>>
>>9660080 What shit sales? It sold exactly as much as L and just a bit less than K.>>
>>9660086 It sold through all of its initial shipment in a month. That's hardly a "bomb".>>
>>9660081 >It sold twice as much on DS and PSP The DS and PSP are more popular than the Vita and the sales weren't that great even on more popular platforms.>>
>>9660093 It sold four times as much on those systems.>>
>>9660099 You don't know a single thing about Japanese sales, do you?>>
>>9660077 > amuro and ribbons > wiseman and everybody > emperor zuul having unique lines > dancouga and nova plot out of thin air with combination attack > saji and louise going around being lelouch's classmates > kamina crashing sheryl's concert >>
>>9660091 Must have been a pretty low shipment>>
>>9660104 No, it was an average portable SRW shipment. I know UX had shit animations but it didn't bomb, as unfortunate as that may be.>>
>>9660102 > amuro and ribbons LEL SAME VA> wiseman and everybody > emperor zuul having unique lines Wow...it's fucking nothing> dancouga and nova plot out of thin air with combination attack Two seris nobody gives a shit about has a poorly animated combination attack. Oh boy!>saji and louise going around being lelouch's classmates Who cares.....>kamina crashing sheryl's concert Yawn...>>
>>9660104 Are you seriously trying to twist "sold out entire shipment" into being proof of the game bombing? Because at that point you're coming across as not just having a grudge against the game, but a psychotic grudge that's distorting your sense of reality.>>
>>9660102 I did like Michel's friendship with first Lockon which caused initial resentment to Lyle.>>
Here we go again with some faggot trying to make it look like UX fans shit on Z2. >>
>>9660114 > I personally don't care therefore it's not important. >>
>>9660121 UX fans, Z fans? I thought we were SRW fans.>>
>>9660116 >sold out entire shipment Speaking of twisting arguments.>>
>>9660125 We are, but there's always someone trying to incite stupid fanwars here.>>
>>9660114 I swear, every time there's an SRW thread, there's gotta be one chinaman/pinoy who types and replies in this retarded manner.>>
>>9660114 Isn't this just personal opinion? Also, work on your troll lines. You're on 4chan, not gamefaqs. Lines like:>Who cares..... >Yawn... Really shows how much of a newfag you are. Those are not lines real trolls on 4chan would use.>>
>>9660118 It's the little things. Wufei ripping the shit out of the Black Knights for betraying Zero on Normal route and just about every Macross 7-Frontier moment were great too.>>
>>9660133 Oh fuck off, the pinoychink may be annoying but at least he's not waving around some pseudo-seniority badge.>>
>>9660136 >Wufei ripping the shit out of the Black Knights for betraying Zero on Normal route Which doesn't mean shit since it's coming from Wufei and the FACT we're playing as them to fight Emperor Lelouch and not vice versa.
>just about every Macross 7-Frontier moment were great too. If you're a retarded Macross fanboy.>>
>>9660099 >>9660104 You guys must have a distorted view of games development huh? Let me point it out: stuff like titles like CoD or DQ or Minecraft are the abnormal ones. On average, its considered a good sell if the product manages to sell through its initial shipment. This means that it pays for its development. Anything extra after that goes to the developers/company. If it sold only 60% of its shipment, then that's considered a failure. SRW is generally a low-cost series; it doesn't have the high productions of Cod or DQ because it doesn't need it. Cod, GTA and DQ need to sell a million copies because they were developed using several million, so selling only 80% of their initial shipment is considered a failure..>>
>>9660149 Speaking of fighting Emperor Lelouch does anyone have a paste in or copy of the translation of everybody's pre-battle dialogue against him, like Kira calling out one in Z1?>>
>>9660141 Heh, how ironic. I'm a pinoychink AND I have seniority over you. How does it feel to be laughed at by a pinoychink?>>
There's three things I wish Z2 had. First, a more focused cast list. Toss out the hangers-on from Z1 that don't actually do anything, and just keep the actually important stuff like Orguss, and then give them more screen time to actually do stuff, and then fill the now-empty spaces with other new entries. Second, more effort, in terms of design. If you don't have a squad system, that's fine, but at the very least, try to make it so that there's something else to compensate. MX and W were both single-unit, and they had other stuff to make up for it: Chain attacks, swapping units out at the battleship, the support call thing, that thing in MX where you could have the surrounding units all support attack, the twin-attack system, stuff like that. Even though both of those games were easy, you still had a bunch of options available to you, so you could at least strategize the most efficient way of busting the opposition open like a tin can. Z2 didn't have any of that, and it was easier than both of those games, so it just became dull and monotone. Third, more cool stuff! Voiced lines, small on-map animations like in Z1 or even UX, unlockable units, anything! Z2 just felt really barren when it came to that sort of stuff, and it feels like it didn't need to. >>
>>9660156 Am I on wikipedia or something? Or is this another of those amateurish damage control tactics? Because you could really do better.>>
>>9660036 im sorry, I thought that you played L>>
>>9660161 Kappei: "Why, you! I'll make you regret using us to try and take over the world!" Lelouch: "Simple-minded as usual, huh, Kappei? You cannot defeat me!" Kappei: "Shut up! You can use all the sneaky tricks you want, I'll beat you even then!" Lelouch: (That innocent purity is your power... Kappei, you are strong.) Banjou: "It's a pity, Zero, that it has to end this way between us." Lelouch: "It was fated. And that is why I will not hesitate in destroying you." Banjou: "Destiny? To use that word isn't like you at all, Zero." Banjou: "Let me give you something else that isn't like you: Defeat!" Lelouch: (That dazzlingly bright unyielding will... Haran Banjou, you truly are the sun.) Watta: "Zero! I didn't hate you!" Lelouch: "Watta..." Watta: "You were always gallant! And perservering!" Lelouch: "You were just fooled by my mask." Watta: "What?" Lelouch: "It is elementary for me to trick children." Watta: "No more forgiveness! If you really have turned bad, then I'll fight you!" Lelouch: (Come, Watta... If you want to protect your company and the peace of the world, then you'll have to defeat me.)>>
>>9660184 Toshiya: "I'm disappointed in you Zero! Is this your justice!?" Lelouch: "Justice is relative. If you don't agree with me then bend me with force, just as I have done to others." Toshiya: "Your words are meaningless! We came here to stop you!" Lelouch: (That goes without said, I can tell because I've been watching you all this time. And so I will fight you, believing in you.) Marin: "Stop, Zero! Are you trying to envelop the world in hate and grief!?" Lelouch: "What I'm doing is necessary to bring about a new age. Under my rule, true peace and equality will be achieved." Marin: "That's a lie! You know that yourself, that's why you fought alongside us!" Lelouch: "My existence here is the answer! If you defy me then you oppose not just me but the entire world!" Marin: "That's rubbish! If you're going to be an enemy to the world then we will stop you!" Lelouch: (An enemy to the world... At last, here I am.) Shoutarou: "Zero! Were you fooling us all along to achieve your own goals!?" Lelouch: "That's right, boy inspector. It looks like your investigation skills weren't as good as you thought!" Shoutarou: "If not realising your intentions and letting you go was my mistake, then it's me and Tetsujin's duty to stop you!" Lelouch: (That's how things should be... All men must pay for their mistakes. I am no exception.) Takeru: "Zero! I still cannot believe you're doing this!" Lelouch: "You don't change, Takeru. Your blind good-naturedness is almost worthy of respect!" Takeru: "Stop the act, Zero! You actually..." Lelouch: "Stay out of my mind! All that is between us now is battle!" Takeru: "If you insist on fighting then we will fight, to stop you! That's all that we can do!" Lelouch: (Takeru, I can feel your kindness... But have to turn my back on it.)>>
>>9660171 What are you going on about? if you're making claims about business stuff and quoting numbers, percentages and claims like "generally low-cost series", you could at least back that shit up so that it doesn't seem you're pulling shit out from your ass.
Any Tom Dick and Harry could just copypaste you entire post and replace the percentages etc. with any random number.>>
>>9660187 Jiron: "Zeroooo! You never were want to be picky about the means to an end but I didn't think you were the sort of guy to do this!" Lelouch: "And what would you know about me, Jiron?" Jiron: "I fought alongside you! I think I know you pretty well! I'm sorry about how you were practically chased out! I'll apologise for that! So just stop it already!" Lelouch: "It's too late for apologies! For everything! I will change the world with my power, and crush all who would stand in my way!" Jiron: "You stubborn dick! If you're going to have it that way then I'm not going to be picky about my means either!" Lelouch: (Thank you, Jiron... Just being able to touch the heart of a righteous man like you gives this battle meaning.) Chirico: "So you too chose to rule through war." Lelouch: "A mere soldier wouldn't understand my intentions." Chirico: "Zero..." Lelouch: "Come, Chirico. I will show how even one to whom death is meaningless is powerless before me!" Chirico: "Very well." Lelouch: (That unyielding spirit... Chirico, I wanted to live my life like you.) Kei: "Violence and domination... Weren't you the sort who hated that kind of thing?" Lelouch: "I don't like being on the receiving end. It's a different story when the sides are switched." Kei: "Well, I don't like that sort of self-centred thinking. Come on, Zero, you're taking responsibility for your actions!" Lelouch: (An uninhibited soul that yields to no-one... I'm truly jealous of you, Kei.)
>>9660189 Some anon>>
>>9660192 Kamille: "Stop, Zero! You should know what happens to a world change by this sort of means!" Lelouch: "You underestimate me, Kamille! I am fully capable of guiding the world to a rightful state! It is only with the appearance of me as king that a new age shall dawn!" Kamille: "You're just drowning in your own ego and losing sight of what's right!" Lelouch: "You are wrong. The right to decide what is right at all is now here with me!" Kamille: "Zero! Part of the responsibility for you turning out that way is with us! We'll stop you, that's our duty as your former comrades!" Lelouch: (Yes, Kamille. Keep on living that way, living strong. That's your duty.) Quattro Vagina: "Ruling through power? That's not like a man whose greatest weapon was his intelligence." Lelouch: "Freya and Damocles and the federation are but pawns to me. My ability to put them to proper use makes me the greatest power to rule this Earth." Vagina: "Zero... I would have liked to have spoken to you more. But since you've joined Treize and Zechs it seems that all I can do is fight!" Lelouch: (Lieutenant Quattro... I'm sure you'll be able to achieve what Treize and I failed to.) Amuro: "Zero... If you want a fight, then I'll oblige." Lelouch: "It seems like I shouldn't try to speak too much around you." Amuro: "Remember this, though- I'm not doing this for you. I'm fighting because I can't forgive you for choosing this path, no matter what the reasons!" Lelouch: (Just as one should expect of you, lieutenant Amuro... You may just be the true form of humanity that Charles sought.)>>
>>9660199 Heero: "Zero. At last this day has come." Lelouch: "I have no excuses, Heero." Heero: "I see. Then as promised, Zero... I will kill you." Lelouch: (Heero... In the end, I couldn't change destiny. Thank you, and goodbye, Hiiro Yui.) Wufei: "Zero! Are you the same as Treize!?" Lelouch: "......" Wufei: "You won't answer me!? Then there is no need for words!" Lelouch: (Fight, Wufei. For the justice you believe in.) Garrod: "Enough, Zero! We're here to stop you!" Lelouch: "Do you really think you can do so, Garrod? With Damocles under my command, don't expect to be able to win in a straight-up fight!" Garrod: "We'll do it anyway! Arrogant bums like you won't admit that they've lost until they've been beaten straight-up! Come on, this is payback for fooling us!" Lelouch: (Heh, you got me there Garrod, it's just as you say. Come on then, straight-up. This is needed if you're to protect Tifa.) Loran: "I still can't believe you're doing this." Lelouch: "Loran..." Loran: "Please, stop, Zero. This fight is..." Lelouch: "If my resolve were so that your words might stop me, I would not be here! Come, Loran! If you want to stop this fight, then you'll first have to fight me!" Loran: "Zero..." Lelouch: (You're too gentle, Loran... But that kindness is your strength.)>>
>Quattro Vagina: "Ruling through power? That's not like a man whose greatest weapon was his intelligence." Mwahahahaha!>>
Wow, I haven't finished CG but is Lelouch really this pathetic? He seems to type of person to write "She's so lucky, I wish I was her" on porn comments. >>
>>9660207 Yes but R2 Lelouch is borderline suicidal by the end of it.>>
>>9660205 Kira was some asshole who kept popping up and being a pain in the ass for everyone. Zero was a guy who fought by their side for two games, who they generally liked. You're ignoring basic context just to rile yourself up.>>
>>9660202 Kira: "Zero... you..." Lelouch: "You would hesitate to pull the trigger simply because the one on the other hand once fought alongside you?" Kira: "I have resolve. If you won't stop then I will fight you!" Lelouch: "You're not the only one who's resolved! Come, Kira Yamato!" Kira: "Zero! I won't let you spread the sadness any further!" Lelouch: (I agree. That's why I'm here.) Shin: "Zero! We're stopping you here!" Lelouch: "You would call me a harbinger of war. You would be right. War is necessary for the world to change." Shin: "That's your excuse, to hide what you've done! I'm disappointed in you, Zero! I hadn't thought of you as a bad person!" Lelouch: (I wanted to live straight, but now... Please, Shin, do so, in my place.) Setsuna: "Zero..." Lelouch: "I heard of your innovation from Suzaku. The world will change as you did... by my hand." Setsuna: "......" Lelouch: "Celestial Being! The age of peace you sought is coming! By my hand!" Setsuna: "Zero... You've become the center of this world's distortion. I will destroy you, and the world you're trying to create." Lelouch: (I thank you, Setsuna, for your wishes which have not changed.) Shinobu: "Come on Zero! I don't hold back against traitors!" Lelouch: "I know that. I also know that your primal instinct would reject my administration." Shinobu: "Then there's nothing to say! We're stopping you and breaking your tactics by force! Yatteyaruze!" Lelouch: (Your words comfort me... Please, never lose that unyielding heart.)>>
>>9660213 Aoi: "It's a pity, Zero. I expected more of you." Lelouch: "It's not too late. Join me, Team D." Aoi: "Sorry, but I just don't like you as you are right now. The face behind the mask is disappointing." Lelouch: "And?" Aoi: "And it's time to settle things here! Come on, Zero! Yatteyaroujan!" Lelouch: (In throwing away your masks you managed to face yourselves and gain the strength to never yield to anyone else... I am truly jealous.) Basara: "Come on, spit out what you have to say!" Lelouch: "Nekki Basara..." Basara: "Break that mask! Listen to my song!" Lelouch: (And a wonderful song it is, Fire Bomber... If only I could live my life as I wanted to, like you.) Alto: "Answer me, Zero! Was all you did up till now for this!?" Lelouch: "The answer is yes, Alto. Just as you were born in a family famous for Kabuki, I was born as Britannian royalty, destined to rule this world." Alto: "I'm not like you! I don't blame others for how I live my own life! This conflict is your fault, and you're taking responsibility for it!" Lelouch: (Alto... You changed your destiny on those wings of freedom.) Ryouma: "Zero! I don't hold back against enemies!" Lelouch: "I know that, Nagare Ryouma. You were one of my most useful pawns." Ryouma: "Oh really! Well, now you can have a taste of that power first-hand! I won't forgive your betrayal!" Lelouch: (That passion... It may just be the thing to turn over my strategies and tactics.)>>
>>9660205 When they fought Kira they had no idea who he was and thought he was some loon flying about, shouting at people to stop fighting whilst being an all round nuisance. When they fight Lelouch they have fought besides him for some time and had thought of him as an able leader and to some, their friend. So taster the revelation of the Geass, they need to know if he had been truly lying to them.>>
>>9660219 Kei: "Zero! Are you doing this because you're mad at us for chasing you out?" Lelouch: "Ridiculous. Your entire existence is nothing but past tense to me now. Nothing but a barrier in my way!" Gai: "Why you!" Gou: "If you've become the enemy of this world..." Kei: "Emperor Lelouch! We will stop you!" Lelouch: (Come, Getter Team. I'm heading towards the future, just like you.) Kouji: "The Zero we knew, and emperor Lelouch, which is the real you!?" Lelouch: "There is no truth to be found in a mask of lies, Kouji." Kouji: "And what about the you who risked his life to stop terrorists in Ashford? I still don't buy it, Zero! You're doing this for a reason, aren't you!?" Lelouch: "If you want to think so, feel free. I still won't hold back against you!" Kouji: "Damn it, damn it! Why do we have to fight!?" Lelouch: (Because that's the path I chose. But thank you all the same, for believing in me...) Akagi: "Zero! You won't stop this!?" Lelouch: "That's not like you at all, 21st Century Security. Among the members of Zexis I thought you were among the ones more critical of my methods." Akagi: "I still don't like some ways you did things! But you saved us countless times, more than enough to make up for that!" Lelouch: "......" Akagi: "Rethink this, Zero! I don't know about that geass thing, but you were an ally of good and justice, a hero!" Lelouch: "Enough! I am not Zero, I am emperor Lelouch, ruler of Earth!" Akagi: "Alright, if you want a fight that much then you're getting one!" Lelouch: (That's the way it should be. You should be the heroes.)>>
>>9660219 >Basara PFFFT, It's exactly what I thought he'd say.>>
>>9660223 >Terrorists who wanted to change the world through overwhelming power is trying to stop someone for doing the same thing LEL>>
>>9660223 Even in the context of his own show, Zero's not exactly a well-written character either, man, don't be too bothered by it.>>
>>9660226 Roger: "Zero... I have to apologise to you." Lelouch: "And what for, Roger Smith?" Roger: "Failing to understand your intentions while getting embroiled in Schneizel's machinations was our mistake." Lelouch: "There is nothing for you to be sorry for. This Lelouch vi Britannia is who I really am. Come, mister negotiator! Whether you like it or not, the only way for you to stop me is by force!" Roger: "Very well. Let's go, Zero." Lelouch: (There is no longer a need for words. All that matters to me now is the results.) Gainer: "Stop it, Zero! With these methods all you'll do is become a second coming of the A-Lawls!" Lelouch: "Don't worry, Gainer. I'm not as foolish as they were. I will crush all who oppose me before they have a chance to even sprout!" Gainer: "You've really changed..." Lelouch: "It was necessary." Gainer: "Then we'll change too, to stop you! Come on, Zero! Can the emperor beat the king!?" Lelouch: "Gainer... I won't forget your passion. Stop me, with that power.) Eiji: "Do it, Touga! This isn't the Zero we knew!" Touga: "But..." Lelouch: "Your naivety is your undoing, Grand Knights! As long as you hang on to it you will not be able to defeat me!" Eiji: "And you showed yourself to us because all of that is part of your calculations?" Lelouch: "I will do whatever it takes to grasp victory! That's my way of doing things!" Touga: "The same goes for us, Zero. We can't lose." Eiji: "Touga..." Touga: "If you are evil, then we will defeat you! That's our duty!" Lelouch: (And at last you're ready to fight, Tenkuuji Touga.)>>
>>9660205 People had a well-documented idea of what Kira was like and were never actual party members with him, since Z1 didn't cover SEED. In Z2 they're mostly confused about Zero's crazy-ass decisions because they thought they knew him personally.>>
>>9660237 Apollo: "I can smell it, Zero! The smell around you, it's the same as-" Lelouch: "Enough, Apollo. I have no words for you." Apollo: "So you want to settle things with a fight? Then I'll take you on!" Lelouch: "You cannot defeat me. I know all of your tactical patterns." Apollo: "Don't underestimate us, Zero! We'll always do more than you expect!"
Apollo: "I can smell it, Zero! The smell around you, it's the same as-" Lelouch: "Enough, Apollo. I have no words for you." Apollo: "So you want to settle things with a fight? Then I'll take you on!" Lelouch: "You cannot defeat me. I know all of your tactical patterns." Apollo: "Don't underestimate us, Zero! We'll always do more than you expect!" Lelouch: (Of course you will. As long as you have that free, unshackled heart...)
Simon: "Zero! Is this the conviction and resolve of your's that aniki believed in!?" Lelouch: "That was long ago, Simon." Simon: "It was ten years ago for me, but only a year for you!" Lelouch: "I changed in that one year. You're now in a position of power like me, shouldn't you understand?" Simon: "I can't and won't! You're nothing but a villain now! I'll stop you in aniki's place! Come on, Zerooooo!" Lelouch: (Thank you, Simon, for reminding me of Kamina. If he were here, I'm sure he'd face me just like you're doing so now.) Renton: "Zero! Why are you doing this? Even if you manage to change the world, with these methods there's no meaning!" Lelouch: "I wouldn't expect a child to understand." Renton: "Don't change the subject! Since when did you become that sort of person!?" Lelouch: "I always was that sort of person. You just didn't realise it." Renton: "Then I won't hold back! You're my, our enemy!" Eureka "......" Lelouch: (Don't say anything, Eureka. That's what I want of Renton.)>>
>>9660238 >In Z2 they're mostly confused about Zero's crazy-ass decisions because they thought they knew him personally. Really? After the fucking Euphie incident and all his fucking actions throughout Z2-1? ZEXIS aren't too bright are they?>>
>>9660241 Karen: "Lelouch!" Lelouch. "Karen." Karen: "I will beat you! That's all I can do!" Lelouch: "Ridiculous. You cannot defeat me. Even now you're nothing but pawns to me. Now, it's time for you to play the part of the last obstruction to the unification of the world!" Karen: "Lelouch... Do you really mean that? Then I'm not hesitating anymore! I will kill you with my own hands!" Lelouch: (Come, Karen. This is farewell.)
Ougi: "Lelouch! I will stop you even if it kills me!" Lelouch: "Wonderful words, Ougi, but can your actions live up to them?" Ougi: "Even without you the Black Knights will fight! The resolve in our hearts gives us power! Emperor Lelouch, we will defeat you!" Lelouch: (It seems that I really no longer have a place among the Black Knights.) Crow: "Hey there Zero. Pity this couldn't be a happier reunion." Lelouch: "True." Crow: "You ain't changing your mind?" Lelouch: "I have something that needs to be done, just as you need to repay your debts." Crow: "Well, can't argue with that." Lelouch: "That's how it should be." Crow: "Alright. Bye, Zero. I didn't hate you." Lelouch: (You understood the words of the Black Goat, but still fight me. Thank you, Crow. The freedom and peace you wished for will soon be here.) Fuck Ougi>>
>>9660245 You're trying really hard to pick holes in this and it's getting pathetic, stop bringing more negativity into this thread. If you don't like the Z series thats fine, just stop bitching.>>
Boss fight banter is truly one of the highlights or SRW. >>
>>9660251 Diff anon here, but I'm not seeing any form of 'hate' towards the Z series in that post. Stop overreacting just because you think someone doesn't like your favourite series.ZEXIS WAS pretty fucking stupid though, though mostly because of the Black Knights. >>
Got any of the quotes against Gaioh or Uther? >>
>>9660227 Fire Bomber's songs are for everyone. Even crazy dictators.>>
>>9659958 So all you really need is for Kamina to go missing for awhile.He could've come back for Saisei and Simon would be just like his show counterpart.That being said, I like it better with him dead. >>
>>9660268 He's ignoring that Zero did have at least cordial working relationships with these people over the course of the game, which is different from fighting someone external you're not conflicted about shooting down.>>
>>9660093 >The DS and PSP are more popular than the Vita Precisely. Hope you're ready for Z3 PSP.>>
>>9660102 Let's be honest, that's nothing compared to shit like Rom Stoll interrupting Asuka's death scene in MX. Still my favorite SRW moment. http://youtu.be/2Bpx66Ld-TI?t=12m20 s
[Embed ] Sorry about the whole "Portable" thing guys.>>
>>9659501 >They'll find a way to make the game entirely revolve around shit like 00 (Probably the movie) and Code Geass. Not really going to happen, for obvious reasons. I will say the 00 movie can be combined with anything though. Just another alien species.-
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