I used to ahve an Export Panel in Bridge CC which I used to export several RAW or PSD photos to JEPG, with the upgrade to CC it's gone. How am I supposed to export several photos to JPEG? One by one in Photoshop? Really?
How am I supposed to export several photos to JPEG? One by one in Photoshop? Really?
To be honest, I never saw the benefit of the export panel in its current state. It had far to less options for me.
Remember that for a simple task as saving as jpeg you always had the option to use the Image Processor. (menu tools / Photoshop / Image Processor)
But it seems you never used a batch command in Photoshop? This can be extremely helpful and very productional, yo can create an action by recording your steps in the action panel and use batch to play the action on a bunch of files selected in Bridge ( menu Tools / Photoshop / Batch).
With the current option to insert a conditional in an action (If-Then-Else) you can create a complicated action in PS for both landscape and portrait and then create a new action that gives you the option to assign both action (if landscape then play 'action landscape' (your action name), else play 'portrait'
It needs a tiny bit of study but it is not that difficult and as said, very productional.
For instance, I have several action for resizing. I also combined these with different sizes and using a conditional action. I select a bunch of files and with the batch command in Bridge (via tools) the selected images are saved in different sizes and stored in different folders (per size).
A few important rules when creating a save action, don't change the filename, not even touch this field, otherwise all files will end up with the same name and overwrite each other, and when you want to keep the original be sure to not save the changes when closing the document.
Try to discover yourself the enormous amount of options you already have with Image Processor and PS Batch using actions.
Recording an action is simple, create a new action and start playing around, most of your movements (not all) in PS will be recorded and when finished the action one push on the button plays it again and again
Before you start experimenting, be sure to first back up your originals so you can play freely with them without the risk of loosing
Thank you for all your replies.
Using Photoshop and batch commands are not going to work for me. In many cases I don't even open the photos in PSCC. I use Bridge to categorize and organize photos or to download them from my camera and then straight export them from RAW to JPEG. So, opening the photos in PSCC adds an additional step .
Adobe detroyed a perfectly great product by taking featues away instead of adding functionality to make things easier. I am exremely disappointed.
Looks like I need to use Camera RAW for now. Let's hope that Adobe doesn't take away the "Save Image" option in there too.
The way I create JPGs from Bridge is to use “Image Processor.” Select all of the images in Bridge that you want to export (convert to JPEGs and output). Then go to the Tools menu and select Photoshop and Image Processor. Photoshop will open and present you with a dialog box that allows you to save the images in several different formats (JPEGs, PSD, or TIFF or all three at once), JPEG quality, resized or not resized, color profile changed to sRGB or left the way they were, etc. Just select the options you want and click OK. This works great regardless of whether you’ve selected one image or 100s of images in Bridge. This process does use Photoshop, but you don’t have to do anything in Photoshop except select the options you want in the Image Processor dialog box.
One caveat is that I don’t have PS CC yet and, therefore, can verify that Photoshop/Bridge CC has the Image Processor option. Would someone with CC please verify this for us? Thanks.
Thank you for your reply. I tested this in the CC versions of Bridge and Photoshop and it works exactly as you described it. I might use this as workaround for now, still hoping that Adobe comes to senses and re-adds the original export function back. When I use the image processor it opens every picture once in PSCC and closes it right after. This slows down the process, but it does work. Also, it's kind of weird how saving presets for that tool work. it saves them as XML files. So, overall it is a workaround, nowhere near the quality, ease and convenience the old Export Panel had, but nontheless, thank you for your suggestion!!
I’m glad I could help you with a workaround.
I don’t want to start a debate on the pros and cons of the Export Panel versus the Image Processor, but I think the Image Processor is a little more flexible and both methods require about the same amount of steps. One area where the Image Processor seems a little more flexible is the resizing option. The Export Panel dialog box appears to just allow you to choose a size constraint with a single number, e.g. 1080, which implies you are constrained to a square box that is 1080 on a side. The Image Processor allows you to choose both numbers, e.g. 1920 x 1080. My example numbers are some I use a lot for resizing images for display on an HDTV (1920 x 1080) or 1920 x 1080 computer monitor. Images from a point-and-shoot (4x3 aspect ratio) are resized to 1440 x 1080, and images from a DSLR (3x2 aspect ratio) are resized to 1620 x 1080. If the Export Panel restricts the resize to a 1080 box, the images are resized to 1080 x 810 and 1080 x 720 which are much smaller images and don’t fill up an HDTV screen or an HD computer monitor. I apologize if I’m missing something here because I’ve only used the Export Panel a few times.
In addition, the Image Processor allows you to choose an Action to run on every image. I usually choose among several sharpening actions I have depending upon the size and final use of the images.
It probably just comes down to what you’re used to and that we don’t like to change.
I need the Export Panel too.
I use Photoshop CS6 and Bridge CC on retina display.
Bridge CS6 do not support the hidpi mode.
So I want to use Bridge CC.
I just want to change the size as same ratio.
But Image Processor needs both width and height.
Bridge CS6 only needs one of those.
In addition, I found Image Processor did not compress JPEG Images efficiently than Bridge CS6 even as same option.
I must select worse image quality for getting same file size on Photoshop CS6.
Perhaps, Photoshop CC's Image Processor exports more efficiently,
and I should migrate to Photoshop CC.
But I cannot do it in this moment...
So if adobe can, I really want adobe to add the Export Panel dialog to Bridge CC again.
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In addition, I found Bridge CC cannot export PDF files.
Cause of Contact Sheet on Photoshop do not have preview function, this is not a substitute for Bridge CS6.
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I'm testing Bridge CC and am hugely missing the export panel as well. Editing and sorting seems faster than CS6, but then I went to use Tools> Photoshop> Image Processor and that TOOK FOREVER! It had to open each RAW photo individually in Photoshop and downsample them. Sure it was automated, but still... extremely inefficient. I couldn't add a metadata profile/keywords for the exported JPGs either and there was NO PROGRESS BAR!
With Bridge CS6, I could pop my camera's storage card into my tablet, generate thumbnails on the fly without copying them off the card... sort through and make adjustments to multiple selections right away, and then export them to low-resolution JPGs. The advantage to the Export panel in Bridge CS6 was that I could save specific presets of desired resolutions and it also made JPGs from the cached preview images. That made things MUCH faster. I could create JPGs with resolutions less than my monitor size extremely efficiently.
And I could do all of that without the hassle of importing the RAW files to a space-hogging database in Lightroom. Bridge CS6's interface is so much more user-friendly than Lightroom's as well, especially on a tablet. Scrollbars on the left side? Come on, that's really poor design... if I have a stylus in my right hand, I have to reach all the way to the left of the screen and cover the stuff I need to see while scrolling. Bridge & ACR have tabs that are much easier to flip between with one click to access all the settings.
To top it off, Bridge CC only supports high pixel density screens on Mac OS X... it still hasn't brought this support to Windows 8. I don't really miss the web gallery export since that was broken the whole time... it put the images in a "bin" subfolder who's access is blocked on most web servers which mean all of the images quickly became inaccessible when copying that exported web gallery to a web server.
Shame on you Adobe. You've now added time to my already busy schedule. How about I take away, oh I don't know, your car and say, Ok, now get to work?
You've given us tools to work and design with. We adapt to software upgrades, to make our time more efficient, and then, YOU JUST COME AND TAKE ONE OF OUR TOOLS AWAY.
I have clients that need updated proofs by which I export directly from Bridge. Now I have to F*&%78 export to LR, or Photoshop, 35 images at a time, and create a web gallery, all the while, now I have to make sure all are the latest copies. Yep, you've done me worse than a Junior High girlfriend.
I'll send you a bill for my and my clients time lost,
As a test last week, after a fashion shoot, I processed the 300-400 photos using Bridge CS6 the normal way... browse straight to the camera's memory card plugged into my Surface Pro.. flip through each picture in full screen preview using the attached or on-screen keyboard (if I'm on the subway) to rank each RAW photo (or rank with multi-selections in thumbnail view)... add keywords/labels... select the high ranking ones in thumbnail view, open all in ACR, apply global adjustments and lens profile corrections... then drop them into the export panel and upload low-resolution samples to the client. It took about a half hour. (Bridge CS6's low-res JPG exports take mere seconds to complete.)
Then I tried to do that in Lightroom 5. Lightroom requires "importing" all photos into a SECOND storage location and adding them to a database before you can even start to work with them. This process took longer than the time it took me to actually finish the job in Bridge CS6.
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Then I tried to do that in Lightroom 5. Lightroom requires "importing" all photos into a SECOND storage location and adding them to a database before you can even start to work with them. This process took longer than the time it took me to actually finish the job in Bridge CS6.
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The superiority of the Bridge/Photoshop work-flow over Lightroom summed-up in a nutshell!
I have never understood why anyone who has Photoshop would want to waste time in Lightroom.
And I have never understood why Adobe puts so many resources into a $180 (Upgrade $80) program like Lr at the expense of Bridge which is the vital glue that makes investing in the whole Suite or the Cloud so worthwhile.
Disclaimer: I have never used LighRoom. But I see more support for LR as it is "built for Photographers", and Bridge is just a file browser. Right or wrong that seems to be the mentality. Here is a link that pretty well continues this argument. http://www.tipsquirrel.com/lightroom-vs-adobe-bridge-2/
As it was previously stated: For users who already use Lightroom instead of (or in addition to) Photoshop the Lightroom workaround may be a solution, but in my case I just have to agree with the previous posts. It's garbage. It's too much work, it takes too long.
As I stated before. I work in the software business and when we release a new version of our software we ADD finctionality, not take it away. I am also not sure who was beta testing the software. I cannot imagine that nobody has mentioned this during this beta phase. When I started Bridge CC for the very first time after the upgrade i immediately saw the missing panel.
Also, I don't know why Adobe took it away. Was it such a big piece of software that was impossible to upgrade? Would it have slowed down the installation or the general functionality of Bridge? Hard to imagine.
I am using a 3rd party app for now, still hoping Adobe listens to its customers.
It's garbage. It's too much work, it takes too long.
I would suggest to stop this pissing-contest about Bridge vs Lightroom. So many users, so many workflows. There are a vast number of photographers very happy with LR and we should respect that. Personally my preferred workflow is Bridge and PS and I almost don't use LR as I also can't get very used to Apple's Aperture. But I have both also installed on my system and when needed I use it because each of them has also some strong points.
Everyone is entitled to his/hers opinion in the same way as everyone is entitled to have a perfect workflow with the chosen application for his/hers own profession.
As I stated before. I work in the software business and when we release a new version of our software we ADD finctionality, not take it away.
I can only fully agree with that
I am also not sure who was beta testing the software.
As I always understood Adobe beta testers are under NDA so we probably never will know that...
I cannot imagine that nobody has mentioned this during this beta phase.
So can't I, but now you are stating that large companies (read: the bean counting department, not the developing department) start to listen to their clients and before you know we are living in Utopia
Also, I don't know why Adobe took it away. Was it such a big piece of software that was impossible to upgrade?
Let's face it, the export panel never has been what it could or should be. It was crippled and difficult to use, many problems with Facebook and Flickr uploads that was only possible in a few countries.
But I agree, instead of take it away they should have developed it to perfection (now I'm also on route to Utopia)
Meanwhile you can use the Image Processor and even batch processing via the tools menu that offers much and much more options to customize. This means PS to be active but that should not be a big problem I would think?
From various users comments you either hate LR or love it. Many feel like you it is just a piece of garbage. But don't expect Adobe to take the initiative on this issue. They do not respond to a few disgruntled users. It takes a concentrated effort by a lot users to get a problem corrected.
I was not a beta tester on this version, but my experiences with being a beta tester in past versions left me with this impression: By the time the version is out for beta testing they do not want to make any additions to the program suggested by the beta testers. They are just interested in fixing bugs that show up. And as I understand it from this crop of beta testers demands were make changes, but they were ignored.
Windows 8 was probably a perfect example of the software engineers telling the public what they want vs what the testers said.
On a positive note it is rumored that the Export Pannel will be coming out as an add on.
The Squirrel piece is an excellent example of brilliant (and very cleverly targeted!) PR to a target niche group ("Photographers") to persuade them to invest in Adobe software at a very inexpensive price!
There are some very powerful voices behind the development and selling of Lr and the Squirrel piece epitomises the way in which they have operated.
Lightroom was designed from the ground up to be a single program solution for photographer workflow. Built around a database (Lightroom’s catalog files), users can quickly organize, process & output files.
"A single program solution" is actually sheer BS: Lightroom is basically merely a rather sophisticated RAW-Converter and provides only a preliminary stage in image -editing! Bridge/ACR provides exactly the same tools and features but in a far more efficient and effective format than Lr's
There is NO reason to use Lr if:
1. You already have Photosop or are prepared to invest in a Cloud Subscription;
2. You are prepared to invest in the time and effort needed to learn how to use it!
I have always contended that Lr is a total waste of money and time for anyone who is included in the above two categories — and I have tested every version of Lr since the first beta version of Lr 1.0.
I know the program well enough to be able to teach it (and have frequently done so!) and I always finish the class by advising the participants (always Photographers!) to buy and learn to use Photoshop instead if they really want to get the best out of their photographs!
I speak as a practising Professional Photographer with more than half a century of experience in this field!
Ouch. This is sending back to Bridge CS6 which was my primarily file organzation and processing tool. I have various Export panel presets for the various resolutions and metadata I need for several applications (web, TV, or sale) that were very convenient to drop photos into as I sorted the files, and then preform the exports. The process files option is unacceptably inconvenient for the various needs I have. Now I am wondering if I should get my CC subscription canceled asap while I can.
This is certainly one of the top frustrations (of several) I am finding with the upgrade process from CS6. The Export panel was vital to my workflow also, for batch resizing and exporting of images in the background without opening Photoshop. I had saved numerous presets which made it very handy for me to create the needed derivitive files with simple drag and drop. I suppose I will keep using CS6 until Adobe gets this functionality restored.
I'm amazed it's been taken out. I have thousands of graphics files in Illustrator and InDesign and exporting these to image files would be quite tedious without Bridge export. The export scripts allowed saving all pages of a document to various formats with very little effort. Surely this is one of the key functions of Bridge. Sticking with CS6 version until this is resolved.
As far as I know, the Export Panel never caused either slow-downs or crashes in Bridge CS 6 and no valid reason has yet been given by the Bridge Team for its removal from Bridge CC .
The attitude by some at Adobe that Bridge is "Free" and therefore is not worthy of investment dollars is rendered nonsensical with the advent of CC Subscriptions.
None of the Adobe apps. are individual revenue-earners any longer and all are needed by Subscribers if their subscription is to have any value for them.
Bridge is the vital link between the other apps. and should therefore be receiving its full share of resources and development dollars.
I blame Adobe's individual Product Managers for their failure to look beyond the budgetary needs of their own domains and to act instead as a TEAM to develop Bridge to its full potential as a tool which could hugely enhance the integration, efficiency and productivity of ALL of the individual programs.
^^ Yes, I must agree to CameraAnn, that Bridge must have full development dollars.
Instead Adobe seems to concentrate on the Lightroom thing,
what's this ?
Lightroom is just a fork of the Bridge in my opinion.
It's nothing else then CameraRaw + Bridge + a database (wow ) + a polished gui + A EXPORT PANEL
I don't like this kind of "evolution" ...
What also makes me (very) angry with this issue it that - look above:
- no staff member is saying something -
it's uncommon for such a long thread!
I hope that anybody at Adobe can tell us something ( or tell your managers about this fault )
COME ON
What are your plans:
* we won't add it, so you guys all have to buy Lightroom, or full subscription (I think that is the main reason to remove export from the bridge)
* we will add it (but asap as possible ^^ see the posts above, don't tell us something like: oh, our apprentice has just deleted the code, we have to develop things from scratch , it's all there , we know it ! )
Many of the more responsible Product Managers and Senior Engineers do make time to read these Forums and often step in to provide help as well but those in the Bridge Team apparently do not.
I find this totally inexcusable particularly when they have managed to make a dog's breakfast of Bridge CC and have STILL not included a seamless installation of AOM even though a Bridge CC Update was only posted in the last couple of days.
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that we are seeing a conflict of interest here between Bridge and Lightroom who just happen to share the same Product Manager.
I actually do have a full subscription so have Lr as well as Bridge and I have absolutely no personal use for Lr whatsoever for any purpose at all — except for knowing how it works so that I can demonstrate and teach others.
And after I have done that, I always recommend that they get, and learn to use, Ps and Bridge instead!
Well when Image Processor allows me to set up a folder under the current one I am working on named "For Viewing" WITHOUT my having to SELECT the source folder AND the OUTPUT folder then I will say Bravo. BUT until then I will export in CS5-way to GO Adobe (sarcasm).
Before ALL I had to do was:
Open a folder in bridge
Select files to be exported
Right click to export using my export preset and
VOILA, it converted RAW to JPG, resized AND put in a unique folder that i did not have to enter every time.
And a heck of a lot faster than Image Processor I might add!
"But it seems you never used a batch command in Photoshop?"
Just a TAD condescending I would say?
Even if Lightroom can do similar function to Bridge's Export panel, it is a tool designed primarily for Photographers! If it is intended to replace Bridge, then why call it Lightroom? No, Bridge is called "Bridge" because it is supposed to be the connector between Adobe's broad suite of programs. What about all of the other non-photographers, like graphic designers, video editors, web developers, etc. that used the Export panel to make quick work of creating JPEGs in a specific size? Do they really have to install and learn Lightroom now, or even Photoshop's Image Processor (which still is clunky compared to simple Export presets)? What about the photographers even, who don't own Lightroom? Perhaps they are getting along fine with the Photoshop-only subscription? Personally, I primarily use my Adobe CC suite for photography, but occasionally too for web development or video (the only reason I can barely justify the full subscription). I have not yet embraced Lightroom, because aside from the database, it is grossly redundant with Bridge/ACR. In fact, I prefer Bridge in some ways, especially because I don't have to Import new files and deal with managing catalogs, I just simply browse to the folder. I had found the Bridge Export panel to be an invaluable timesaving tool in all of these areas of discipline.
Please Adobe, just bring the Export panel back and stop making me resent my $50/mo. subscription even more!
Slightly off topic (for web designers): Don't even get me started on my other CC frustrations. Oops, too late. Fireworks is a prime example! Why am I paying more for less Adobe? I've been happily using Fireworks (together with Dreamweaver) since before the Macromedia acquisition, and I find it very disappointing to see the program completely dropped in CC. Yet another (major) change in workflow I am being forced to adapt to. I don't even know which program is supposed to replace Fireworks? Photoshop? No. InDesign? Maybe? I suspect the way I have been building websites (for over 10 years) will not even be possible with these other programs. Where do I send the bill for all of this lost productivity while I completely re-learn my trade with all new tools? I bet Dreamweaver is sad to have its life partner banished from the club. I guess I should vent these frustrations on a Fireworks forum, if such a thing exists anymore?
Please Adobe, just bring the Export panel back and stop making me resent my $50/mo. subscription even more!
Sadly enough you are on a user to forum and not addressing Adobe directly
It is not easy to find a way to reach them directly, they managed to outsource a lot, by now we seem to understand why...
Here is the link for the Fireworks forum (also user to user):
North America
Europe, Middle East and Africa
Asia Pacific