I miss Brynhilde, does anyone know what she's doing these days?
I miss Brynhilde, does anyone know what she's doing these days?
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
I think the problems with the current translation are
1) doesn't flow well
2) mistakes that seem to have come from the Chinese translation (I caught a couple really silly mistakes but I didn't really go over it thoroughly)
A rewrite could fix the first but wouldn't do much for the second, unless someone was to check it against the original text.
I'm still here. Just not translating anymore because there are more Japanese translator here nowadays.
You know, I actually totally agree with going through all of F/Z translation again. Now I read what I wrote back then, and I cringe. The English was............................................... .... yeah *hides*
That being said, how much leeway should we give? I was really hoping some Japanese translator would go through the F/Z translation while having the Jap original to compare against?
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I've thought about doing this, and then I get about a page in before deciding something else is less troublesome.Originally Posted by Brynhilde
Current Fanfiction Projects
Went Left, Mind Flayers Chapter 4: 50%
Just Add Dragons: 50%
And Then Rin Messed Up: 50%
Guide to Japan: 9/15? chapters complete
So, any objections to me actually going ahead with this? I made a thing, by the way. It's just my project start, and I made it clear that I had no authority from you guys, but still, it's an example of what I'll be doing on my own.
www.fzlnscrubbing.tumblr.com
Last edited by troydenite; Yesterday at 09:58 AM.
didn't kureshii already do something like this?
http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=19701.0
or am i off the mark?
@Brynhilde
Now we are living 21st century, however you should not use "Jap" in this international community. I know it is no meaning of disparaging words in Australia, but NATIVE JAPANESE HATE THIS ABBREVIATION. If you still using this word, I am going to you handle as a racist. do you understand what I said?
Last edited by Ossan99; Yesterday at 04:18 PM.
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。
While I can understand your feelings, in this context it was used as shorthand for "the Japanese language" not "a Japanese person".
<Leo> i will never doubt fatalpulse-taichou again
Untouchable - Are you a bad enough dude to become an Enforcer?
Project HORUS - The Muv-Luv RP/waifu murder simulator
^
Now that we are living in the 21st century, you clearly know that most other speakers, especially when they use the full name otherwise, do not mean it as an insult. If you still perceive it as an insult, that is fine, but saying something that implies they're racist for making such a comment can be just as bad.
Current Fanfiction Projects
Went Left, Mind Flayers Chapter 4: 50%
Just Add Dragons: 50%
And Then Rin Messed Up: 50%
Guide to Japan: 9/15? chapters complete
Arashi condones racism.
．．．この先どんなに遠くに行ってしまっても、私はずっと絶対に好きです。
どうかどうか、それを覚えていてください。
dem japs
I would really prefer an English editor to sit down with someone who can translate the original Japanese. Like Koto said, a lot of mistakes were probably carried over with the translation and a simple 'clean up' won't fix that.
Totally understand what you mean, Arashi, in terms of reading F/z.
I will have a read at the tumblr page once I get to work. On my phone atm.
@Ossan99: I have met some very rude Japanese international students in Australia and have always considered them exceptions from the kind, courteous Japanese people. Thank you for shattering my illusion. You have taught me courtesy is no longer commonly practiced, nor is respect towards foreigners.
I have nothing else to add because, due to how strong and incorrect your assumptions were, your post sounded more racist than mine,
Last edited by Brynhilde; Yesterday at 07:55 PM.
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@Arashi_Leonhart
In Literary style, for example "Eng->Jap translation" used normaly without any bad meaning. However, these 3characters feel bad by my side because spell is same at all of usecase of discrimination. Which is better, using such abbreviation words to be misunderstood or not using words to be misunderstood?
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。
@Brynhilde
>I have met some very rude Japanese international students in Australia and have always considered them exceptions from the kind, courteous >Japanese people. Thank you for shattering my illusion.
First of all, you should know your country's media what called Japanese.
Spoiler:
This post was 2008. 21st century.
I have no time this morning at this moment.
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。
@Ossan
First of all, know that generalising all people of the same nationality under the same banner is the root of racism.
I also have no time this morning and this thread is for the translation anyways.
Reported.
Last edited by Brynhilde; Yesterday at 07:55 PM. Reason: typo
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I'd be very glad if I could actually get someone who could translate from the Japanese for me, just so we can be a two-man team - I could be the editor. Then it can be a proper re-translation. Sticking to two people might actually keep the translation more cohesive, and it would definitely be more accurate.
Examples of my English style are in the tumblr link in my last post. I'd be really grateful if someone stepped forward.
@All EXCEPT Brynhilde
Brynhilde said these:
>I have met some very rude Japanese international students in Australia and have always considered them exceptions from the kind,
>courteous Japanese people. Thank you for shattering my illusion.
It looks like Brynhilde claims Japanese people(include me) are rude.
Question 1: Are Japanese people rude? When you met/worked with Japanese, did you feel "Japanese is rude"?
>You have taught me courtesy is no longer commonly practiced, nor is respect towards foreigners.
It looks like Brynhilde claims no respect toward foregners.
Question 2: Should we no respect towards foreigners in this community?
If my last post to Brynhilde #187 has wrong points(for example, rudeness points), Brynhilde SHOULD DESCRIBE WHICH POINTS ARE WRONG before bashing Japanese people and me.
An american said about some Australians,Australian media. Ｗｈａｔ do you think?
Last edited by Ossan99; Yesterday at 11:21 PM.
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。
prime example of how to blow things out of proportions
@troydenite
Are you a work with Brynhilde to volunteer work for Fate/Zero anime translation?
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。
@Brynhilde
>First of all, know that generalising all people of the same nationality under the same banner is the root of racism.
If your claim is fact, is it correct such thing open via media like Australian Daily Telegraph? Do you agree such racism from Australia to Japan with a word of "Japs"? I was learned at western company, keep silence(no reply) is agree.
Last edited by Ossan99; Today at 12:07 AM.
He was about to ask me what type. I said: 'Mauser 1932.'
For him, it was probably an expression of intense surprise: his face just went utterly still.
The big job? The thing with a change lever that'll fire full automatic?'
'That's the one.'
He slanted his eyebrows slightly, one up, one down. He had me now: I'd betrayed a bit of my own True Belief -and what a belief.
どんな銃だ、とききかけたので、「一九三二年型のモーゼルだ」と教えた。
彼にしてはひじょうな驚きの表情なのであろう。表情が凍りついた。
「あのデカイやつ？レバーを切り換えると全自動になる、あれか？」
「そうだよ」
彼はわずかに片方の眉をあげ、片方をさげた。私の正体が読めたらしい。私自身の銃に関する信念の一端を見せ てしまったようだ。とんでもない信念ではある。