Funny, Korean source says, it was Americans who started the fight and Korean man was defending against three U.S soldiers.  three VS one, three got stabbed by one. Are they drunk or something?

This is why the media shouldn't interfere with cases like this  because they are just telling  story to sell a story not even knowing facts about  what really happened.And the people reading are giving their biased opinion not also knowing what really happened. You all siding  on those soldiers,yes they are who we call heroes but we also  all know that a lot of GI's here in ROK gets in trouble when they are drunk,can't handle their alcohol.They don't care what happens because they know the army  will stand for them to cover their asses and hide the truth...BUt have you all ever thought of trying to find the story of the other side. Soldiers are soldiers but it doesn't mean  that their clean and innocent. Does anyone here knows who those other  people are ,the Korean guy,wife and the husband? I don't think so.I am very curious of what they have to say because we don't really know who's telling the truth.Maybe they did really just tried to defend their selves at that moment.I never see in the news telling about what the other party has to say. So before you all give your judgement why don't we all wait until the investigation reveals the truth.That is if they will give justice to the real victims. We should not tolerate these bad tio

everything about sk  is cheap and easy to buy

the wife is not a juicy, does not work here...your facts aren't straight...

Stay classy soldiers in Korea.

Tell you what! If my son seen aperson male or female that was having problems walking or etc. He better try and help get them to safety so they don't hurt themselves or anyone else! I don't care if they homeless ,or anything else! WE are All Human And Sometimes need Help! This is OUR SOLDIERS? YES! THEY PROTECT! HELP THOSE WHO CAN NOT HELP THEMSELVES! Now if you have a problem with helping people, then you are not HUMAN!!!! Keep up the good work soldiers! Need more like you to step up and help those who need it!!!

Once again there are folks who want to jump right in a blame the Soldiers. Who cares if they were drunk or drinking? Who cares if they were out at 0600? If they want to go out the gate at 0505 and get wasted on a Saturday or Sunday that is their decision. 

If I was their Commander I would back them up 100% until the facts were settled and I would give them the benefit of the doubt for being out at 0600. To me they look like heroes for trying to do the right thing and look after a women that was a danger to herself. Yes there are a few bad apples, but for god's sake Our Soldiers, like 99.5% of them, are outstandingly well behaved. We should applaud them and thank them for helping to defend a country that is not their own far away from their families. 

This is an important alliance and we should be proud of what they are doing for the Army and for Korea. Cut our Soldiers some slack.

You'd be correct, for the most part. However, all military personnel in Korea are currently under General Order #1 as directed by the USFK commander. That means no one was supposed to be consuming any alcohol

The imposed "no alcohol rule" was right after this incident, not before.

Uh, no. The no alcohol rule was way before this incident. We were in the middle of an exercise and every service member on the peninsula was restricted from consuming alcohol. How do I know? I was serving there in the military when it happened. Your sources?

The story and our impression of the 4 soldiers has changed with the new information in this article compared to yesterday's. And I guess we can expect further information and changes to come out in the days ahead.

At this point I wonder about the Korean-American Staff Sergeant and his Filipina wife. Is she a "juicy girl"? If yes, he is a lowlife for allowing her to work in such an establishment. He's also a nutjob for going after 4 fellow soldiers with a knife because he "mistakenly believed the other soldiers were flirting with her". What did he expect? After all, isn't flirting with soldiers part of the Job Description for a "juicy girl" according to Stripes? And isn't a dependent wife working as a hostess in a bar against military or SOFA regulations?

In the case she is not a "juicy girl"? Well, that's another story but the Korean-American Staff Sergeant still had no cause to start "fighting the four soldiers with a knife". Off duty or not, couldn't he have just identified himself as a Staff Sergeant first and (as it turned out) then pulled rank?

This is why the media shouldn't interfere with cases like this  because they are just telling  story to sell a story not even knowing facts about  what really happened.And the people reading are giving their biased opinion not also knowing what really happened. You all siding  on those soldiers,yes they are who we call heroes but we also  all know that a lot of GI's here in ROK gets in trouble when they are drunk,can't handle their alcohol.They don't care what happens because they know the army  will stand for them to cover their asses and hide the truth...BUt have you all ever thought of trying to find the story of the other side. Soldiers are soldiers but it doesn't mean  that their clean and innocent. Does anyone here knows who those other  people are ,the Korean guy,wife and the husband? I don't think so.I am very curious of what they have to say because we don't really know who's telling the truth.Maybe they did really just tried to defend their selves at that moment.I never see in the news telling about what the other party has to say. So before you all give your judgement why don't we all wait until the investigation reveals the truth.That is if they will give justice to the real victims. We should not tolerate these bad tio

Yeah I am sure everyone will just say hey I am higher ranking than you stop flirting with my wife.

Curfew doesn't work and it never has. Tell an american he cant have something and guess what. Cmon lets be real at least 50% of those clubs pimp out and its not like the GIs are really upset about that unless another GI is banging his so called girl that night.  This is a serious business in Korea and its not going anywhere for a long time. Human trafficking is huge in korea, but if these girls were smart and wanted to get out, they can.  All they have to do is report their establishment to the korean consulate or philippine embassy and they will ensure these women will get out of there without reprisal. Also they wont be black listed from entry back into korea...On the other side, most of these if not all filipina women are deceived about the job they are getting into. Koreans hire corrupt filipino's to prey on the innocent women in the philippines, offer them a life thats hard to pass up. After they have been trained as a singer, waitress, dancer ect, given money, clothes and a place to stay, they feel obligated to pay their employer back, even when they find out what their works is really going to be. Some clubs take their passports to ensure they don't run away.  When these girls meet a GI that can make their dreams come true, get them out of poverty and treats them with respect, of course they want to get away, but for a lot of filipina women they end up heart broken and end up abandoned. But as I said before theres plenty of programs to assist with crap like this. There is an abandoned hotline too. Anyways thats enough ranting. GI's will get drunk, get into fights, and those ones are the ones to make a name for Americans overseas. It hasn't changed in since the WW's

I have to laugh at your comment that these Filipina's are "duped" into being prostitutes. They all know quite well what they are going there to do. The lucky ones will get some dumb private to marry them and that will be their golden ticket. That's the way it's always been, that's the way it'll always be in every country from S. Korea, to Germany, to Guam, to etc., etc., etc.

Maybe you should read up on sex trafficking before you say such ignorant things.

The post was spot on correct.  Sex trafficking is alive and well in every corner of the world including the USA and it is sad of course.  However, if these young ladies from the PI have not figured out by now that they are being recruited to work in GI clubs then it is laughable. For that matter the vast majority of them do it in their own country before coming over here.  Maybe they are duped on how much money they can make but only in a extremely rare case do they not understand full well what they will be doing once they go to Korea, Japan, Germany, etc. 

There are other options go to your embassy representative for your country here in South Korea, or call the HT tracking hotline, ask KNP for help...

REF: USFK Homepage For DOD-Contractors and those assigned in support postions of the USFK Mission. Annual training and refresher training also...
1. Purpose. Per DoDI 2200.01 Combating Trafficking in Persons (CTIP), all DoD Military and Civilian Personnel are required to receive annual refresher training on CTIP. Although not mandatory for Contractors, completion is strongly encouraged. Contractors are not required to train their personnel on CTIP; however, Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) subpart 22.17
(Reference(j)) states that the presence of a CTIP awareness program is a factor for the contracting officer to consider as a mitigating factor when determining remedies.

2. Training. All USFK HQ, Subordinate and Direct Reporting Units will complete mandatory CTIP refresher training by - Suspense 1 November 2013. Training should be accomplished either on Joint Knowledge Online (JKO), on their service component training systems or the alternative power point group presentation (sign-in rosters required). The training is available as a web based interactive module and as a PowerPoint Presentation.

CTIP Resources and References:

Have to take refresher courses (Computer Based Training) every year cupcake. I'm more versed on it than you'll ever be. Oh, I've also been to all the countries I mentioned. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I mentioned. There are a percentage of those being trafficked for sex who know exactly what they are going to be doing when they get where they are going. These Filipinas fall directly into that percentage. All their friends, cousins, aunts, etc., tell them the truth about how much money they made doing it and it's a better life than being stuck in the damn P.I.

Isn't GO#1 in effect peninsula wide?  Why were they drinking in the first place...?

GO#1 only applies to CENTCOM.

No, it also applies to all 8th Army/USFK personnel during exercise.

They weren't drinking, that's what the guy that stabbed them wants everyone to believe. Read the story again slooooower.

THEY were DRUNK, How do you lose a 4 vs 1 fight? Slowed reaction from all the booze. Does the military teach you how to fight nowadays? Basic moves maybe? Like how to defend yourself from someone with a knife.

Let's analyze this, the Korean-American (what the hell is that anyway, I thought you were American or not) SSG and the club owner and the Filipina wife agains 4 Americans, three of which were privates (3 privates = 1 adult in a fight) and this is just what we think we know. Could have been more involved that ran off before the cops showed up.

You can't do a damn thing out in korea. If you get in a fight, you're just as likely to get charged even if it was in self defense. You have to have hard proof it was all in self defense and no alcohol was involved.

Yeah just like everywhere else in the world including the United States.  You can't just get cleared for self defense every time you get in a fight without being able to prove that fact.

why were they still out after curfew and stayed out until 6 am?

Nobody said they were, they may have went out the gate right at 6 a.m. It was a weekend.

I am thinking the wife is a juicy and the husband was picking her up from work and, the soldiers where out doing whatever, the wife was waiting on her ride home, they saw her began to inquire about or to her, the husband got mad saw her, thought they where trying to pick up on her , the club owner who is South Korean , saw his buddy in a scuffle and decided to ho help, the soldiers, got into a scuffle with them three, (wife with the bat, owner with the knife) and the ssg with  his fist and lost , ended up getting stabbed.  that is just my guess. Humam trafficing is wide open in  the villes outside of every camp or post in south korea,  I saw it first hand in South Korea, u can black list the club m they just change the name.  Human trafficking is just part of the culture and is wrong, but it wont stop until South Korean gov stops giving them visas. and goes into the ville and shuts those places down, but i dont see it happening anytime soon.