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List of world's 51 busiest train stations. Only 6 are not in Japan. (en.rocketnews24.com)

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[–]the2belo[岐阜県] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Nagoya is #7, ahead of Tokyo.

Wat.

[–]zorospride[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント 前

Shinjuku and Shibuya are the hubs for Tokyo. Nagoya is the hub for Nagoya.

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

I think they're including shinkansen traffic through Nagoya (from Tokyo to Osaka).

[–]PeanutButterChicken[大阪府] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

But Tokyo has several Shinkansen lines as well, so that wouldn't make much sense.

[–]ScuzzyAyanami 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Shin-Yokohama is pretty busy with Shinkansen traffic as well.

[–]madd0g11[東京都] 11 ポイント12 ポイント 前

Oh yeah dog, baba in at 10! Represent!

[–]Isodus 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

University student I'm guessing?

[–]madd0g11[東京都] 9 ポイント10 ポイント 前

No I just like to live around a bunch of young women and the neighborhood is convenient.

[–]CrashingForeignCars 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Instant thought: why 51 and not 50?

[–]zorospride[S] 21 ポイント22 ポイント 前

Because somebody wanted to give a shout out to Zurich? Maybe.

[–]Tannerleaf[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Probably something to do with Butsumetsu...

[–]Sanngetall[兵庫県] 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Still can't believe Baba is no. 10.

I wonder which stations in Osaka were tallied in "Umeda." Does it include all 6 of them (incl. Osaka) or were some excluded?

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

I think they include through traffic, and not just transfers at that station. Then it's obvious to see why the station between Ikebukuro and Shinjuku would make the list.

[–]Sanngetall[兵庫県] 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Not sure if that's true because then we'd see Shin-Okubo and Mejiro much higher, right?

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

Except Shin-Okubo and Mejiro don't have other lines running through them, whereas Takadanobaba has the Tozai and Shinjuku lines.

There's something weird with the data, but I'm not sure what. For example, it lists Meguro as larger than Ueno. I thought Meguro was one of the quietest stations on the Yamanote, and Ueno as one of the busiest.

[–]Isodus 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

I go to Meguro quite often and although there aren't a lot of businesses around there, there are a lot of residential buildings so that could be where the traffic comes from. Also there is at least one subway line attached to Meguro station so that could add to it as well. If that list does include through traffic (trains that don't stop but lines that pass through?) then I think chuo-sen? passes through? I really don't know the name of it, but the train is loud as heck whenever it goes through.

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

It could be it doesn't count through traffic, but it does count 直通 as transfers at the station. The Meguro Line has 直通 connections to both the Toei Mita Line and the Tokyo Metro Nanboku line at Meguro Station.

I go between Meguro and Ueno all the time. (I live near Meguro, my fiance near Ueno.) While Meguro is definitely larger than all the little tiny stations along the Meguro Line, it just doesn't compare to Ueno. Meguro just has the Yamanote and the Meguro/Nanboku/Mita Lines. Ueno has the Yamanote Line, as well as also the Ginza, Hibiya, Keihin-Tohoku, Utsunomiya, Takasaki, Jouban, and Shinkansen Lines.

There's a decent amount of people getting on and off the Yamanote at Meguro, (it's where everyone who rides the Meguro Line in the suburbs transfers to the Yamanote Line,) but it's not as many as people getting on and off the Yamanote at Ueno. And the Meguro Line/its direct transfers definitely don't compare to all the lines in Ueno.

lachalacha below said

other rankings I've seen are in that [1] ballpark and they specifically say it's only counting the number of people who pass through the ticket gates.

That could explain Meguro's high ranking, because everybody transfers from the Tokyu portion to the JR portion of the station. So they all get counted twice in Meguro. Conversely, many people transfer from JR to JR in Ueno.

[–]donkeybrainsify 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Very hard to believe that Ueno is smaller with the Shinkansen, Airport Express and Yamanote Line all stopping here.

[–]woofiegrrl[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

The airport trains are technically at Keisei-Ueno, so that may have affected the numbers.

[–]lachalacha[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

the data is definitely off. other lists have consistently ranked Ikebukuro as #2 in the world, ahead of Shibuya.

[–]donkeybrainsify 9 ポイント10 ポイント 前

I've spent lots of hours in the Ikebukuro area, seeing as my girlfriend lives in Nerima, we would usually go out in Ikebukuro. I think the station is the most chaotic of all the big stations in Tokyo. Far more confusing than Shinjuku to me.

[–]2Deluxe[東京都] 10 ポイント11 ポイント 前

Ikebukuro is possibly my most hated station in Tokyo. The whole area just fills me to with unexplainable rage that I think all stems from the station.

[–]dagbrown[埼玉県] 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

The whole station seems to be perpetually filled with tourists who have no idea where they're going. I don't think they're actually tourists, but everyone there seems to be permanently confused.

[–]kahoonas 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

It's constantly filled with people who aren't really from the city because it serves as a gateway to Saitama. That's my theory about Ikebukuro - it's filled with suburban/country people who don't know how to walk properly in a busy city: they never look where they're going and change direction suddenly without checking behind them.

[–]Big_Adam 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Define early for me. When I went to Tokyo my body never got off UK time so I kept waking up at sort of 7 or 8am JP time. Tokyo is like a ghost time at that hour.

[–]lachalacha[東京都] 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

I think it's the most disjointed station in Tokyo. the JR entrances are so randomly placed and difficult to get into, the Tokyo Metro lines are all over the place (Fukutoshin is so far from Marunouchi/Yurakucho) and the Tobu and Seibu lines are so inconveniently situated it makes for a very confusing transfer.

although Shinjuku has the worst transfer in Japan (Oedo line to Seibu-Shinjuku line, you have to go up 8 stories just to reach the ground floor and then walk over a kilometer almost to Kabukicho).

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

Shinjuku has the worst transfer in Japan (Oedo line to Seibu-Shinjuku line, you have to go up 8 stories just to reach the ground floor and then walk over a kilometer almost to Kabukicho).

Damn, that's even worse than getting to the Keiyo Line in Tokyo Station, it sounds.

[–]Amadan 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

I love the fact that Seibu ("west side") is at the east side and Tōbu ("east side") at the west side. So funny.

I hate meeting new people in Ikebukuro station because there's hardly any landmarks. But when you get used to it it's not that confusing. With old friends I have an established meeting place, so not all bad.

[–]sendtojapan[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Ikebukuro owl for the win!

[–]thedrivingcat[東京都] 19 ポイント20 ポイント 前

Spent every day for 2 years taking the 6:57am train from Shinjuku station and back around 5pm.

I was a grinding experience. Had some understanding for the surliness of salarymen who've been doing it for decades.

[–]Thuruk[ドイツ] 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

Could one not take an earlier train to work?

[–]ALtheExpat 21 ポイント22 ポイント 前

It's Shinjuku. Early train, late train, they're all packed.

[–]moufestaphio 7 ポイント8 ポイント 前

The sources linked didn't exactly instill me with confidence that this is accurate. (random japanese blog..) I find this list pretty hard to believe.
Also if the source is Japanese, how throughly did they do their research on other countries?

Anyone know where they're getting the numbers? Also as mentioned below... they say like 'umeda' where there are 3 subway stations, jr and hankyu. Does that include them all as one station?

[–]zorospride[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

I would think the numbers for Japan would be tracked by the government or by JR. Everything's electronic so I wouldn't think it would be that hard.

As for the rest of the world's stations I don't know. Perhaps that's why Japan shows so prominently on this list.

[–]moufestaphio 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

That's what I was thinking. Do they have reliable stats for other countries? And maybe other countries would split a station like umeda into many stations.

[–]swordtech 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Don't forget the Hanshin line.

[–]BreadstickNinja 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

3.4 million people through Shinjuku every day, on average.

My brain can't even comprehend that number.

[–]dagbrown[埼玉県] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I'm not sure whether that counts the people who happen to be on trains that just happen to go through Shinjuku station. My route to work goes through Shinjuku but I just stay on the train and keep going to Shibuya, which is a paltry #2 on the list.

I honestly prefer driving to work. It's less stressful.

[–]lachalacha[東京都] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

that number is people getting on and getting off, not passing through. other rankings I've seen are in that ballpark and they specifically say it's only counting the number of people who pass through the ticket gates.

[–]kazuscma 8 ポイント9 ポイント 前

i hate how shinjuku station is always the default station to meet up at, but no one can ever find each other and there's that horrible Lumine entrance on the east side that I always try to find but then I somehow end up in the Odakyu station of Shinjuku where I'm lost among masses of elderly women who are taking one of their "girls trips" to the hot springs in Hakone on the Romance Car!!!! That's happened to me so many times.

[–]jamar0303[上海] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

That's why when I went there with my family, the one time we split up we agreed to meet up inside one of the Lumine buildings.

[–]teek 11 ポイント12 ポイント 前

Basic Japanese Meet Up Dialogue

You: Hey let's meet up!

Nihonjin: yes!!~! lets meet up (^ ^ )V

You: Cool, where should we meet?

Nihonjin: do you know [ really big and busy station ]??

You: Yes, I know.

Nihonjin: lets meet there~!! (^ .~)

...at really busy station...

You: Hi, I arrived, where are you?

Nihonjin: i arrive too (^ ^ ) do you know [ really busy area outside or really busy ticket gate ]?

You: Yes, I'll go there.

Nihonjin: ok!~! (｀・ω・´)”

You: I'm here, where are you?

Nihonjin: do you know [ really big and popular landmark ]???

You: Yes, but I don't see you...

Nihonjin: ok (>.<) wait there!~ i will find you~~!!

You: Ok...

[–]Tannerleaf[東京都] 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

That's why you should always do a pre-meeting meetup. So that when the actual meetup occurs, you both know where to meetup.

We always meet next to the vending machine in Shinjuku, for instance.

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

While a common occurrence, I typically find it easier to just say, "Let's meet at ___ Exit." Unless it's something like the Meiji Jingu Exit of Harajuku at New Years, it's fine.

Of course, you can just use cell phones.

[–]woofiegrrl[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

This is beautiful simply for the different writing styles. Well done, sir/madam.

[–]AlantheCowboyKiller 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

If I have to meet up with someone at Shinjuku station, I always use the JR southeast gate. It's not busy (well, relative to the other exits), it is clearly marked, and it is also narrow enough that you can stand on the side and clearly see (and be clearly seen by) anyone passing by.

I met up with a friend coming from Narita Airport; it was her first day in Japan and she didn't have a cell phone signal, but I told her to meet at SE JR entrance in Shinjuku station and we met up just fine, no problem.

[–]Aerdirnaithon 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

I live in Georgia, USA. More people pass through Shinjuku in half a week than live in the entire state.

[–]BreadstickNinja 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

I was born in Gainesville. More people go through Shinjuku in an hour than live in Gainesville!

[–]inefekt 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

1 in 6 people on the entire planet go through Shinjuku station every year

[–]wonkydonky[東京都] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

1 in 6 people on the entire planet go through Shinjuku station every year

Well, I think a small number of people (in comparison to the human population) just use it a large number of times. It's not like 1 billion people go to Japan each year and go through Shinjuku one time.

[–]zorospride[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

I understood what he meant. A number equal to 1 in 6 people on the entire planet go through Shinjuku station every year.

[–]Tannerleaf[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

I did it as many as 3 times once.

[–]Amadan 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

In 6 years, EVERYONE passes Shinjuku! :D

[–]lachalacha[東京都] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

there are some mindfucks on that list. Wakoshi higher than Shanghai? pretty amazing.

[–]ALtheExpat 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

This was fun to read, but totally wrong. How can Machida place in the top 50? That's giving Odakyu way too much importance. I know Yokohama runs through there too, but come on.

[–]kemushi_warui 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Machida's a pretty big hub. It's the most direct route in and out of Shinjuku for miles around.

[–]ecancil[大阪府] 6 ポイント7 ポイント 前

Tennouji what what

[–]PeanutButterChicken[大阪府] -1 ポイント0 ポイント 前

That "u" bothers me.

Anyway, the new mini shopping mall in Midosuji Tennoji station opens today! Yay.

[–]ecancil[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Why exactly?

Lot's of stuff has been opening in there lately.

[–]PeanutButterChicken[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

I dunno, I've never seen it written with a "u" in Romaji before, heh. I'm used to "Tennoji".

But yes, finally, there's stuff to do in Tennoji. A few years ago, place was a ghost town for fun.

[–]ecancil[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

ah i guess i just wrote it like that instead ō

Anyway, yah - i live about 5 minutes walk from the station so it's nice. Tin's hall is a foreigner friendly bar pretty close with a super cheap happy hour and bar food too.

[–]PeanutButterChicken[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Don't get me started about Tin's... good food, but it takes an obscene amount of time for cooking. Also, the time where a nail sticking out of one of the benches ripped a huge hole in my jeans...

[–]ecancil[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

Oh yah, a burger will take an hour. Mostly go there 300円 happy hour drinks

[–]osaka_nanmin[大阪府] 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

This surprised me too. I didn't think Tennoji was busier than Termani in Rome.

[–]intermu[台湾] 5 ポイント6 ポイント 前

Woohoo at least Taipei represent!

[–]weegee 4 ポイント5 ポイント 前

It took me 45 minutes to exit Hankyu Umeda station once. Seriously. To be fair, I was looking for a particular pedestrian bridge that leads to JR Osaka station. It is an easy way to transit from one station to the other, which are basically across the street from one another. I kept missing the correct route, and ending up on the sidewalk in front of Hankyu station. My wife wasn't with me, she always knew which way to go, and it had been 5 years since I was there last, so I was a bit disoriented. Finally found the particular narrow stairway that lead down from the platform level to the mezzanine level, and from there exited out to the pedestrian bridge.

Am now planning to return to Osaka again, after a 7 year absence. Osaka station has been completely rebuilt and has absolutely no resemblance to its former self, which hadn't changed much since 1970. So I am preparing myself for more disorientation as I know now I will have no idea how to get from Hankyu Umeda station over to Osaka station, and then once at Osaka station, I will have no idea how to get on the platform to head down to Tennoji, which was once so easy to do.

[–]Karasuageha[福岡県] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I understand this so well. I always have problems getting around in Umeda but have only taken the wrong exit from Shinjuku once.

[–]spaaaceman 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Take heart in the fact that since the rebuild, it's a lot easier to get around. The signage is clear, and generally speaking you can get where you're going a lot easier. You should notice a big difference.

[–]weegee 0 ポイント1 ポイント 前

I would expect that. Osaka station grew a bunch in the post-war years. This resulted in a bunch of weird stairways that sometimes turned in the middle for no real reason, narrow hallways, and other seemingly random features. I've seen a lot of photos of the new Osaka station - it looks quite European! Can't wait to see it in person.

[–]PeanutButterChicken[大阪府] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

It's very easy to get to JR Osaka from Hankyu, they're almost directly connected with almost too many signs pointing the way.

Anyway, an entire new HUGE shopping area/business complex/hotel complex is opening up next week, so traffic will be even more intense soon.

[–]jamar0303[上海] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Oh god, MORE? The current pile of buildings isn't enough for them or something?

What I want to see, though, is more Visa/MC-friendly ATMs in the area. There's that one Citibank, that 7-Bank ATMs in Hep Five, and that's all I saw the last time I passed through the area. Probably wishful thinking, though.

[–]uhm_nope 3 ポイント4 ポイント 前

*correction:

Japanese commuters don't bump into one another. (i don't know how they do it)

[–]zorospride[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

They do, just not as often as you would expect. The trick is to look down at the sea of feet. It lets you see where to walk without bumping into people. We foreigners often have the habit of looking up at faces. This makes it harder to see which direction people are going in and causes us to collide.

[–]uhm_nope 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

that's some good advice! looking down at people's feet. and now i also know why there's this slightly depressing vibe to those train stations :)

[–]Tannerleaf[東京都] 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

Eh? Shimbashi Station itself is a classic example of Brownian Motion on a macroscopic scale...

[–]uhm_nope 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

i don't think so, they are generally really good at avoiding body contact while rushing past each other at high speed. it's amazing.

[–]meanwhileinjapan 1 ポイント2 ポイント 前

I call bullshit - where is Grand Central Station in New York? 700,000 per day according to this http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/travel/grand-central-terminal-100-year-anniversary

[–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント 前

Yeah I was totally thinking, really nothing from NYC? I just found this about the Port Authority bus terminal:

"The terminal is the largest in the United States and the busiest in the world by volume of traffic, serving about 7,000 buses and 200,000 people on an average weekday."

wiki source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Authority_Bus_Terminal