Their typebars Do jam | do not jam |
Mr. Darryl Rehrhttp://qwerty-history.g.hatena.ne.jp/raycy/20101112/1289582004 Peter Weil pmweil http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TYPEWRITERS/message/47197 | Associate Professor Koichi Yasuoka |
It is only reason | It is not the only reason | It is not reason. |
Donald A. Norman Darryl Rehr Associate Professor Peter Weil | Associate Professor Koichi Yasuoka |
Teir typebascket layout | |
Dickerson's? | Koichi Yasuoka's? |
Smithsonian models' relation between key and typebar arrangement | |
there is relation | no relation |
Associate Professor Koichi Yasuoka | |
So,
YasuokoYasuoka's model may be technically accurate for a combination of one-finger slowtyping and perfect alignment of both the typbars and the type on the end of
each.
Peter
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Typing speed, expected or attained.
Flavio Mantelli
I have a 1878 Sholes model for US patent #207557 (August 1878) that was made to demonstrate an improvement in the typebars.
This specific model is a two-row keyboard machine with 12 keytops only
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year 年代 | mechanism 機構 | how many keys | brand 機種 | manufacturer メーカー | distribution source 販売元 | bender seller 販売者 |
1867? | wired | 38? keys | for patent and self-use | Milwaukee | ||
1868summer- | kick-up,with no wire http://qwerty-history.g.hatena.ne.jp/raycy/20101117/1289969794 | how many keys | American type writer | Soule&Densmore? Chicago | ||
1869 | kick-up? or wired? | 28 keys | Soule&Densmore? Chicago | |||
1870? | kick-up? or wired? | how many keys | American type writer | Densmore&Porter? | ||
1872 | wired | how many keys | TYPE WRITER | Sholes & Schwallback? Milwaukee | ||
1873 | wired | how many keys | Sholes & Glidden's type writer | Remington & sons? | Porter | |
1874出荷 | wired | how many keys | Sholes & Glidden Type-Writer | Remington & sons | ||
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http://www.aquaporin4.com/etcetera/ETC.45.pdf
On a visit to the Smithsonian Institution recently, Ron Wild took this photograph of the first typewriter for which Christopher Latham Sholes received a patent. This is the "kickup" model, which James Densmore actually put into limited manufacture in Chicago during the summer of 1868.
The patent for this machine was granted on June 23, 1868, while the patent for Sholes' better known upstrike design was granted July 14, 1868. In actuality, the model of the second patent was developed first, as Richard Current points out in The Typewriter and the Men Who Made It.
Densmore and Sholes believed the kickup model was an improvement on the earlier machine, which used a linkage of wires to connect keys to typebars. The kickup model, with its piano-like keyboard, used simple metal fingers to push each typebar up, making use of the simple upward movement of the key levers.
The patent model shown here has only eleven keys, since it was built only to demonstrate the action of the machine. We can assume that the manufactured models had more keys, perhaps as many as the 44 on later machines. According to Current, Densmore expended $1000 and a lot of nervous sweat in having only 15 of these machines made in Chicago, where they were tested at the telegrapher's school operated by E. Payson Porter. Porter's students quickly pounded the machines into disrepair, providing the weakness of the design, which was then abandoned.
As far as we know, none of the 15 kickup models have survived.
ETCetera -- Journal of the Early Typewriter CollectorsAssociationhttp://www.aquaporin4.com/etcetera/ETC.45.pdf
In actual dimensions it is 2 feet long, 1-1/4feet wide, and exactly 1 foot high.
Nevertheless-and bear this fact in mind-every basic principle of the present-day typewriter is found in this machine.
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Dickerson's regularity ,
Dickerson"Did Sholes and Densmore Know what they were Doing when they Designed their Keyboard?,"(ETCetra No.6 / Feb., 1989)http://sites.google.com/site/etceterarehr1/ETC.06.pdf
raycy @ wiki - Dickerson machine .
- The lower two rows of the keyboard alternate along the half of the type basket nearest the operator, from left to right,and
- the upper two keyboard rows alternate in a similar manner around the back rim of the basket.
Dickerson"Did Sholes and Densmore Know what they were Doing when they Designed their Keyboard?,"(ETCetra No.6 / Feb., 1989)http://sites.google.com/site/etceterarehr1/ETC.06.pdf
Dickerson"Did Sholes and Densmore Know what they were Doing when they Designed their Keyboard?,"(ETCetra No.6 / Feb., 1989)
the half of the type basket nearest the operator - 霊犀社2
http://sites.google.com/site/etceterarehr1/ETC.06.pdf
from when? at least on the order thrird bank forth bank, third bank, forth bank , ....
Current(1949) say
to pay minds for vartical orbit
it is starting during desktop machine development.
to privent slice side way force that makes typebar wabbling,
type-basket typebar arrangement
Dickerson
Yasuoka
Any information?
The Zipf's curve on (English) language bi-grams (the letter pairs) in words might lead the team Sholes and Densmore to a success not to be abandoned.
ブラウンコーパスでは、300位から最下位325位まで相当は、頻数ゼロみたいです。あてにはなりませんけれども
一位は頻数143444のer
raycy @ wiki - ブラウン・コーパス順序なし異字digraph頻度順位 同字抜 順+逆合計 1 er 143444 2 ht 140492 3 eh 124097 4 in 102192 5 it 84886 6 an 84336 7 en 79891 8 no 78666 9 es 77541 10 de 74395inoue04「どんなに工夫しても、いつかは隣り合わせのキーは連続打鍵される。キー配置の工夫にはあまり意味がない」かどうか、、 - 葉仮名raycy - KliologY
bigramのパレート図を描くと、どうなるだろうか? - 葉仮名raycy - KliologY
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The Zipf's curve that bi-grams have could lead to the less liable to interfere each adjacent typebar with on a type-basket.
If the bi-grams (the letter pairs) of languages doesn't have the Zipf's curve but a flat even randomness, then re-arrangement of typebars doesn't have any meaning.
If the bi-grams (the letter pairs) of languages doesn't have the Zipf's curve but a flat even ra
If the bi-grams (the letter pairs) of languages have only some flat even randomness, then it's nonsense changing the neighboring of typebars.
If the letter pairs (bi-grams) of languages have flat randomness, then it's nonsense changing the neighboring of typebars.
If the letter pairs (bi-grams) of languages have randomness, it's nonsense rearranging typebars.
もし文字組頻度が一様ならば、タイプバーの並べ替えはナンセンスだ
If the letter pairs (bi-grams) of languages appear in random, it's nonsense rearranging typebars.
If the letter pairs (bi-grams) of languages are in random, it dosn't work to rearrange bars&keys.
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The men who are finding and writing and making the history. The two of facts , one by Alphaqt and the other by Salmanazar etc. The two of truths.
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1. ^ a b c d e f Rehr, Darryl, Why QWERTY was Invented, http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/whyqwert.html 2. ^ a b Liebowitz, Stan; Margolis, Stephen E. (1990), "The Fable of the Keys", Journal of Law and Economics 33 (1): 1–26, doi:10.1086/467198 . 3. ^ Casson and Ryan, Open Standards, Open Source Adoption in the Public Sector, and Their Relationship to Microsoft’s Market Dominance 4. ^ Sholes, C. Latham; Carlos Glidden & Samuel W. Soule, "Improvement in Type-writing Machines", US patent 79868, issued July 14, 1868 5. ^ Iles, 323 6. ^ Rehr, Darryl. "Consider QWERTY". http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/whyqwert.html. Retrieved 12 December 2009. "QWERTY's effect, by reducing those annoying clashes, was to speed up typing rather than slow it down." 7. ^ a b Utterback, 5 8. ^ Campbell-Kelly (2004), 25 9. ^ a b David, Paul A. (1985), "Clio and the Economics of QWERTY", American Economic Review (American Economic Association) 75 (2): 332–337, http://jstor.org/stable/1805621 . 10. ^ Kinesis – Ergonomic Benefits of the Contoured Keyboard – Vertical key layout 11. ^ Sholes, Christopher Latham, US patent 207559, issued August 27, 1878 12. ^ Weller, Charles Edward (1918), The early history of the typewriter, La Porte, Indiana: Chase & Shepard, printers, http://www.archive.org/details/earlyhistorytyp00wellgoog 13. ^ See for example the Olivetti Lettera 36, introduced in 1972 14. ^ Diamond, Jared (April 1997), "The Curse of QWERTY", DISCOVER Magazine, http://discovermagazine.com/1997/apr/thecurseofqwerty1099/, retrieved 2009-04-29, "More than 3,000 English words utilize QWERTY's left hand alone, and about 300 the right hand alone." 15. ^ Gould, Stephen Jay (1987) "The Panda's Thumb of Technology." Natural History 96 (1): 14-23; Reprinted in Bully for Brontosaurus. New York: W.W. Norton. 1992, pp. 59-75. 16. ^ Paul A. David, "Understanding the economics of QWERTY: the necessity of history", Economic history and the modern economist, 1986 17. ^ Krzywinski, Martin. "Colemak - Popular Alternative". Carpalx - keyboard layout optimizer. Canada's Michael Smith Genome Sciences Centre. http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?colemak. Retrieved 2010-02-04. 18. ^ a b http://www.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=half-qwerty-keyboard |
1. ^ Yasuoka, Koichi, The Truth of QWERTY, http://yasuoka.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html 2. ^ a b Liebowitz, Stan; Margolis, Stephen E. (1990), "The Fable of the Keys", Journal of Law and Economics 33 (1): 1–26, doi:10.1086/467198 . 3. ^ Casson and Ryan, Open Standards, Open Source Adoption in the Public Sector, and Their Relationship to Microsoft’s Market Dominance 4. ^ Sholes, C. Latham; Carlos Glidden & Samuel W. Soule, "Improvement in Type-writing Machines", US patent 79868, issued July 14, 1868 5. ^ Iles, 323 ---- --- ----- ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ----- ------ ----- ---- --- ----- ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ----- ------ ----- ---- --- ----- ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ----- ------ ----- ---- ---- ---- --- ----- ------ ----- ---- --- ----- ----- ----- ---- ----- ----- --- --- ----- ---. 6. ^ a b Utterback, 5 ----- ----- ---. 7. ^ a b David, Paul A. (1985), "Clio and the Economics of QWERTY", American Economic Review (American Economic Association) 75 (2): 332–337, http://jstor.org/stable/1805621 . 8. ^ Kinesis – Ergonomic Benefits of the Contoured Keyboard – Vertical key layout 9. ^ Sholes, Christopher Latham, US patent 207559, issued August 27, 1878 10. ^ Weller, Charles Edward (1918), The early history of the typewriter, La Porte, Indiana: Chase & Shepard, printers, http://www.archive.org/details/earlyhistorytyp00wellgoog 11. ^ See for example the Olivetti Lettera 36, introduced in 1972 12. ^ Diamond, Jared (April 1997), "The Curse of QWERTY", DISCOVER Magazine, http://discovermagazine.com/1997/apr/thecurseofqwerty1099/, retrieved 2009-04-29, "More than 3,000 English words utilize QWERTY's left hand alone, and about 300 the right hand alone." 13. ^ Gould, Stephen Jay (1987) "The Panda's Thumb of Technology." Natural History 96 (1): 14-23; Reprinted in Bully for Brontosaurus. New York: W.W. Norton. 1992, pp. 59-75. 14. ^ Paul A. David, "Understanding the economics of QWERTY: the necessity of history", Economic history and the modern economist, 1986 15. ^ Krzywinski, Martin. "Colemak - Popular Alternative". Carpalx - keyboard layout optimizer. Canada's Michael Smith Genome Sciences Centre. http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?colemak. Retrieved 2010-02-04. 16. ^ a b http://www.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=half-qwerty-keyboard |
Sholes & Glidden Type Writer, 1874
Although it is not all that rare (probably a couple hundred or so survive), it is desirable, with values from $1000 (for a black model) to $5000 for an ornately-decorated model on a treadle stand.
Sholes & Glidden
two hundred of them?
I once wrote as:
I want to name your revision in "OWERTY Revisited(1997)" as "Rehr's revision".
Darryl Rehr's revision"The total frequency of adjacent typebar pair's bi- grams on a whole type-basket are aimed to be minimum or small.(1997)"
I slightly changed the mentioning of expression.
You, Darryl Rehr wrote as,like "(almost just) Only ADJACENT TYPEBARs are the matter", in 1997.
Rehr's revision:"Sholes needed to do was separate the letter pairs by at least one type bar.(1997)"
The total frequency of adjacent typebar pair's bi-grams on a whole type-basket are aimed to be minimum or small.(in2007or 2008or2009or so.)
I explained this in Japanese on:
隣接タイプバー間での接触干渉が特に起こりやすいことを、ディッカーソン(1989)のあとで解説している記事がある、、QWERTY REVISITED on ETCetra No.38 1997 - 葉仮名raycy - KliologYThe contact depression angle difference between the adjacent and by one typebar.
Rehr's revision:"Sholes needed to do was separate the letter pairs by at least one type bar.(1997)" - The actuality on - QWERTY historyJapanese explession only prepared.
隣接タイプバー間での接触干渉が特に起こりやすいことを、ディッカーソン(1989)のあとで解説している記事がある、、QWERTY REVISITED on ETCetra No.38 1997 - 葉仮名raycy - KliologY
I expressed recently as:
"The total frequency of adjacent typebar pair's bi-grams on a whole type-basket are aimed to be minimum or small.(in2007or 2008or2009or so.)"
This expression needs some assumption:
By this expression, I could count the total frequency of bi-grams of each whole typebaskets, historicaly.
I have used Brown Corpsecorpus as bi-gram frequency reference.
The decreasing of the liability to get interfered by adjacent typebar pairs changing
eather they thought how
the actuality shows the decreasing of the liability to get interfered by adjacent typebar pairs changing
>>
隣接2タイプバー組の連続動作機会頻度(「ディッカーソンの規律」を適用したBCDP評価)
The decreasing of the liability to get interfered by adjacent typebar pairs changing - The actuality on - QWERTY history
Sincerely yours,
raycy
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m (→History and purposes)Line 1: Line 1: - '''QWERTY''' ({{pron-en|ˈkwɜrti}}) is the most used modern-day keyboard layout?. The QWERTY design is based on a layout created by Christopher Latham Sholes? in 1873 for the Sholes and Glidden typewriter? and sold to E. Remington and Sons|Remington? in the same year, when it first appeared in typewriter?s. It was designed to minimize typebar? clashes.<ref name="why" >{{citation
+ '''QWERTY''' ({{pron-en|ˈkwɜrti}}) is the most used modern-day keyboard layout?. The QWERTY design is based on a layout created by Christopher Latham Sholes? in 1873 for the Sholes and Glidden typewriter? and sold to E. Remington and Sons|Remington? in the same year, when it first appeared in typewriter?s. Contrary to two common misconceptions - the QWERTY letter arrangement was not derived to slow down typists nor to avoid jamming.<ref name="truth" >{{citation
- |title=Why QWERTY was Invented
+ |title=The Truth of QWERTY
- |url=http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/whyqwert.html
+ |url= http://yasuoka.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html
- |first=Darryl
+ |first=Koichi
- |last=Rehr
+ |last=Yasuoka
- }}</ref> It became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 and No. 3 and No. 389 of 1878,<ref name="why" /> and remains in use on electronic keyboards due to the network effect? of a standard layout and a belief that #Alternatives_to_QWERTY|alternatives? fail to provide very significant advantages.<ref name="fable"/> The use and adoption of the QWERTY keyboard is often viewed as one of the most important case studies in open standards? because of the widespread, collective adoption and use of the product, particularly in the United States.<ref>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1656616 Casson and Ryan, Open Standards, Open Source Adoption in the Public Sector, and Their Relationship to Microsoft’s Market Dominance]</ref>
+ }}</ref> It became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 and No. 3 and No. 389 of 1878, and remains in use on electronic keyboards due to the network effect? of a standard layout and a belief that #Alternatives_to_QWERTY|alternatives? fail to provide very significant advantages.<ref name="fable"/> The use and adoption of the QWERTY keyboard is often viewed as one of the most important case studies in open standards? because of the widespread, collective adoption and use of the product, particularly in the United States.<ref>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1656616 Casson and Ryan, Open Standards, Open Source Adoption in the Public Sector, and Their Relationship to Microsoft’s Market Dominance]</ref>
==History and purposes== ==History and purposes== {{Main|Sholes and Glidden typewriter}} {{Main|Sholes and Glidden typewriter}}-
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+ Sholes struggled for the next six years to perfect his invention, making many trial-and-error rearrangements of the original machine's alphabetical key arrangement. His study of bigram frequency|letter-pair frequency? by educator Amos Densmore, brother of the financial backer, James Densmore? is believed to have influenced the arrangement of letters.<ref name="utterback5" >Utterback, 5</ref>
- Firstly, characters were mounted on metal arms or typebars?, which would clash and jam if neighboring arms were depressed at the same time or in rapid succession.<ref name="why"/> Secondly, its printing point was located beneath the paper carriage, invisible to the operator, a so-called "up-stroke" design. Consequently, jams were especially serious, because the typist could only discover the mishap by raising the carriage to inspect what he had typed. The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams.- While it is believed by many people that QWERTY was designed to "slow down" typists, this is incorrect – it was designed to prevent jams<ref name="why" /> ''while'' typing at speed, yet some of the layout decisions, such as placing only one vowel on the home row?, did have the effect of hobbling more modern keyboards.<ref>{{cite web- - |title= Consider QWERTY- |accessdate= 12 December 2009- |author= Rehr, Darryl- |quote= QWERTY's effect, by reducing those annoying clashes, was to speed up typing rather than slow it down.- }}- </ref>- - Sholes struggled for the next six years to perfect his invention, making many trial-and-error rearrangements of the original machine's alphabetical key arrangement in an effort to reduce the frequency of typebar clashes, and using a study of bigram frequency|letter-pair frequency? by educator Amos Densmore, brother of the financial backer, James Densmore?.<ref name="why" /><ref name="utterback5" >Utterback, 5</ref> Typebars corresponding to letters in commonly occurring alphabetical pairs, such as S and T, were placed on opposite sides on the disk.<ref>Campbell-Kelly (2004), 25</ref>Line 30: Line 29: - The QWERTY layout became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 of 1878, the first typewriter to include both upper and lower case letters, via a shift key?.<ref name="why" />
+ The QWERTY layout became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 of 1878, the first typewriter to include both upper and lower case letters, via a shift key?.
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Contrary to two common misconceptions - the QWERTY letter arrangement was not derived to slow down typists nor to avoid jamming.[1]
[1] Yasuoka, Koichi, The Truth of QWERTY
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"nor to avoid jamming"?
Swing down or forward? No. Typewriters in the 1880s with QWERTY keyboard had typebars to swing up to hit the back of paper. They are called upstrike typewriters and their typebars never jam. Furthermore, in English, the most frequently-used letter sequence is "th". On QWERTY keyboard, you see T and H are adjacently placed. The second is "er" + "re", also placed in neighborhood of one another.
The Truth of QWERTY
He should point out at first, is "The design solution was to relocate the keys"
letters often typed immediately after one another, such as "i" and "e," would be placed on opposite sides of the machine.
It could be, as alphabet frequency
E is ▄゚¯, T is ▄▄゚¯, I is ▄゚▄゚¯, O is ▄゚¯▄゚¯
but how come sequence on type-basket wasn't discussed about?
If the typist worked too quickly, the metal typebars would collide and jam the mechanism.
He might have talked some words with Nick..
I understand that the said academic, whom I believe was interviewed by Stephen Fry on 'Fry's English Delight' (BBC Radio 4) which I also talked in also
...
Probably a case of an academic reading to much into a comparatively simple question with lots of empirical evidence, if he cared to look at an old typewriter?
Nick
Yahoo! GroupsI think he misunderstood of yourAPKY*1's something. You APKY've been acquainted with those alternation of "l" for "1" used to be in those days with, for sure. And I suppose you have tested typing of some antiques of those.
But I wonder if
How come not going talk searching in TYPEWRITERS@yahoogroups.com? - The actuality on - QWERTY history
# Fry's English Delight
# Series 3
# The Trial of Qwerty
Also in the programme
Koichi Yasuoka of the University of Kyoto. *2
This is his blog about how qwerty developed.
BBC Radio 4 - Fry’s English Delight, Series 3, The Trial of Qwerty11 August 2010 Last updated at 08:41 GMT
Why do we all use Qwerty keyboards?
By Nick Baker Producer, BBC Radio 4
'Creative obstruction'
But did Sholes really doctor the configuration of letters to slow the typist? Would an inventor really hobble his own brainchild?
If so, argues Fry, then the Qwerty keyboard and its inventor could be accused of "conspiracy to pervert the course of language and to limit the speed of creativity and language input, endangering billions with repetitive strain injury".
Qwerty can be seen, he argues, as "a deliberate spanner in the works of language, metaphorically and technologically".
Qwerty is "not ergonomic", agrees Professor Koichi Yasuoka of Kyoto University, a world expert on the development of the keyboard.
But he sees evidence of the practicality of Qwerty in a world of mechanical typewriters. "T and H is the most frequently used letter pair in English," he explains. "In fact in Sholes's typewriter, the typebar of T and H are located on opposite sides."
The separation of these letters was made in the interests of speed, he believes. Users could type T-H without crashing keys, whereas the proximity of E and R, he argues, is inefficient. In other words there is no evidence of deliberate slowing down.
"Ergonomics were not a characteristic of mid-19th Century design," he concludes.
Continue reading the main story
“Start Quote
A good stenographer will beat a Qwerty keyboard hands down”
End Quote Mary Sorene Stenographer
BBC News - Why do we all use Qwerty keyboards?Someone believing that he knows the right layout
like modern keyboard user
From the modern keyboard layout user's point of view, the QWERTY looks slow or fatigus.
*1: (Associate) Professor Koichi Yasuoka http://qwerty-history.g.hatena.ne.jp/raycy/20110107/1294382212
*2: (Associate) Professor Koichi Yasuoka http://qwerty-history.g.hatena.ne.jp/raycy/20110107/1294382212
DARRYL REHR
Director,Producer, Writer of Television Documentaries
Collector of:Typewriters-------Ribbon Tins, Calculators
Meet the Author
- From 1987-1999, I edited and published ETCetera, journal of the Early Typewriter Collectors Association, which I helped found.
- At the beginning of 1996, I created "The QWERTY Connection," my first Web page. A whole set of related pages follow.
- My book "ANTIQUE TYPEWRITERS AND OFFICE COLLECTIBLES" came out in August, 1997. Punch the link to take a look.
Tue Jan 4, 2011
From my experience with Sholes & Gliddens (I have owned four of them over the years), Yahoo! Groups
Mr. Darryl Rehr answered to my several questions on some e-mail.
mailNo. | date & localtime | Q&A | who | messages |
mail1Q | Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:51:34 +0900 | Q1 | raycy | In QWERTY Revisited( on ETCetra No.38 / March, 1997/3 ), there are , If you've ever had the opportunity to fiddle with a Sholes & Glidden, you may have a feel for how this works. Type keys for two adjacent type bars quickly in succession and they'll clash and jam all day.Who wrote this article, do you know? |
mail1A | Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:55:55 -0800 | A1 | Rehr | I wrote it. |
mail1Q | Q2 | raycy | How are they, adjacent type bars? Are they apt to clash and jam? | |
mail1A | A2 | Rehr | "Adjacent type bars" means two type bars that are next to each other inside the machine. They DO clash and jam. | |
mail1Q | Q3 | raycy | AssociateKoichi Yasuoka, The Truth of QWERTYHow do you think? | |
mail1A | A3 | Rehr | Professor Yasuoka is wrong. | |
mail2Q | 2010年 11月 12日 01:02:39 +0900 | Q4 | raycy | You might say Professor Yasuoka's experience or opinion:"The up-strike machine's typebars never jam." is wrong. And You might say up-strike typewriters also apt to got jam in adjacent typebars move in rapid sequence? Are they right? Are those on your experience? |
mail2A | Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:19:15 -0800 | A4 | Rehr | On later models of upstrike typewriters, type bars jam less often than on the Sholes and Glidden. But on the Sholes and Glidden, they jammed frequently. |
mail2Q | Q5 | raycy | Is it OK, I open on Web your e-mail message, four sentences of those : from A1 to A3? May I open on Web those your message ? | |
mail2A | A5 | - | ||
mail3Q | 2010年 11月 12日 19:18:43 +0900 | Q5-2 | raycy | May I open your answer commens on the Web? Your answer comments: see Q&A1-4. |
mail3A | Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:32:01 -0800 | A5-2 | Rehr | Yes. |
Darryl Rehr"It appears that all Sholes needed to do was separate the letter pairs by at least one type bar. As long as they were not adjacent, they didn't clash.
So, it appears all we need to do is revise our theory slightly, and it need no longer be disscarded." QWERTY REVISITED on ETCetra No.38 / March, 1997/3
I want to name "Rehr's revision", that is "Sholes needed to do was separate the letter pairs by at least one type bar."
I said:
The total frequency of adjacent typebar pair's bi-grams on a whole type-basket are aimed to be minimum or small.(in2007or 2008or2009or so.)
I explained this in Japanese on:
隣接タイプバー間での接触干渉が特に起こりやすいことを、ディッカーソン(1989)のあとで解説している記事がある、、QWERTY REVISITED on ETCetra No.38 1997 - 葉仮名raycy - KliologY
Japanese explession only prepared.
隣接タイプバー間での接触干渉が特に起こりやすいことを、ディッカーソン(1989)のあとで解説している記事がある、、QWERTY REVISITED on ETCetra No.38 1997 - 葉仮名raycy - KliologY