方 ほう or  かた ?

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Reply #1 - 2009 July 28, 4:11 pm
eroichigo
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方 gives me a ton of trouble when trying to read. Is there any common patterns or ways to tell if 方 is read ほう or かた?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks

Reply #2 - 2009 July 28, 4:17 pm
bombpersons
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I think it's like this:
食べ方 = た・べ・かた

食べる方 = た・べる・ほう

When it verb stem + 方 it's かた
But when it's Verb or の + 方 it's ほう

Reply #3 - 2009 July 28, 4:29 pm
Hinode
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It depends on the context. It's ほう when you're talking about a direction:
例: 駅の方へ- toward the (direction of the) station | Or when you are making a comparison. 例:車より自転車の方が安い。(くるまよりじてんしゃのほうがやすい) A bicycle is cheaper than a car.

かた is used when you're talking about the way something is done, ie. 作り方 (つくりかた) way of making, 読み方 (よみかた) way of reading etc. or when 方 stands for "person" which should in most cases be obvious from the context.

Those are the usages that I've come across so far, I'm not that advanced yet myself so I'm sure others on this forum can point out any remaining ones that I've missed.

Reply #4 - 2009 July 28, 4:34 pm
Smackle
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方 is read かた when it means a method or a person.
ほう is when it means sort of a direction.
(Note: These are sentences I'm making off the top of my head)

ほう:
この夏何キロ太ったかなぁ~ ケーキなんて食べない方がいいんだろう。 (How fat have I gotten this summer? I should probably lay off the cake and stuff)
どっちの方から始めようかな このチョココロネ (Where do I start from on this chocolate coronet?)
昨日からダイエット中!ユゥちゃんの方は? (Since yesterday I've been on a diet. What about Yuu-chan?)

かた:
あの見知らぬ方、怪しいんですよ。 (That person I've never seen before is suspiscious.)
正しい「男の愛し方」を教えてください!(Please tell me how to love a man!)

Last edited by Smackle (2009 July 28, 4:39 pm)

Reply #5 - 2009 July 28, 4:36 pm
alantin
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あの方 (かた) (That person)


読み方 (かた)
作り方 (かた)
観方 (み・がた)


フランス語と日本語を比べると、どちらの方が難しいですか。 (ほう)


方法 (ほう・ほう)

The first three examples have got to be the most common usages of that kanji and now that I think about it, it seems to me that most of the time it's read "ほう", except when it means a person or it's something like 食べ方, 読み方, 作り方 or the like.

Edit.
Smackle put it in a nut shell pretty good!

Last edited by alantin (2009 July 28, 4:39 pm)

Reply #6 - 2009 July 28, 4:44 pm
magamo
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As others said, I also think you use かた when it has a sense of "human" or "method," and probably it's ほう when 方 related to "direction," "side," etc.

For example, これを食べる方が健康に良いでしょう (It would be better to eat this for your health) is たべる"ほう", but これを食べる方はいますか? (Anyone eat this?) is たべる"かた".

There are some exceptions such as archaic expressions, (e.g., 朝日が昇る東の方を見やる), but it seems to me that this rule works most of the time.

Also, 方 can mean "about" or "approximately," and in this case it's かた/がた. For instance, 七割方正解した。is ななわりがたせいかいした, which means "I got about 70% of questions right." Another example is 明け方 (あけがた), which literally means "the time when the sun is about to rise" i.e., "daybreak."

Last edited by magamo (2009 July 28, 4:45 pm)

Reply #7 - 2009 July 28, 4:47 pm
Smackle
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Oh, I forgot about 夕方(ゆうがた evening) and stuff which goes along with what magamo was saying last.

Reply #8 - 2009 July 29, 3:03 pm
eroichigo
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Cool, I've saved your responses to my notes for reference when making sentence cards with 方 in them.
Thanks for the help guys.

Reply #9 - 2009 July 29, 10:54 pm
zoletype
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If you have a chance to converse with Japanese people, I strongly reccommend you do! I learnt when to use ほう and かた just by chatting with friends and one day I could just do it! 

Sometimes it's hard to understand or perfect purely from explanations.. there's nothing like getting your hands dirty.

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