UK: Syrian opposition 'sole legitimate representative' of the people

What about recognizing Hamas who were democratically elected fighting against the occupation which is illegal as per international law ?

Do they recognise Al Qaeda?

William Hague gives full support to newly united opposition and announces £2m in aid to the anti-Assad uprising

This man will never learn.

Why is it permissible to give aid to insurgents in Syria but not to send aid to insurgents against the corrupt Karzai regime in Afghanistan or any other of the stooge regimes the West sets up and supports?

So is willie going to recognise palestine?
Better still will he fund the palestinians to at least give them a chance against the IDF?
Do palestinian women and children not count in wee willies world?

The new package of UK support is worth around £2m in immediate commitments which could be expanded "considerably" in the coming months

Again, this looks less like a humanitarian gesture, and more like UK taxpayers once again providing sweeteners for future private business deals, from which we will get absolutely no benefit or return.

"Do they recognise Al Qaeda?"

I thought al Qaeda fighting hand to hand with 'Syrian opposition' to topple Assad supported and in recognition from us ?

Given our track record in the ME the money probably will end up where we least expect it.

So the British Government is going to recognise a ragbag of different organisations, some of whom they're fighting in other parts of the Middle East, as the representatives of the Syrian people are they? How stupid can they get?

The National Coalition "have much to do to win the full support of the Syrian people and coordinate opposition efforts more effectively," Hague said. "

Quite. So why jump in with this band of fighters?

"But it is strongly in the interests of Syria, of the wider region, and of the United Kingdom that we support them and deny space to extremist groups," he added.

Now we approach the real reasons. So what are these interests of the UK that mean we have to take sides in a civil war?

Billy hague may reconise the syrian rebels but he dosent speak for the people of the uk did he ask the libdems he is in a coalition after all and we of the uk dident give him permision to waste 2 million of our tax i thought we had no money left any way
And with russia suporting Bashar al-Assad.
hague is playing a dangerous game at our expence.he should concentrate on stuffing snakes.

A small group appointed by foreign powers in Bahrain, and situated in Egypt recognised as the legitimate government of the people in Syria. Smells like oil. This is insane.

So is willie going to recognise palestine?

Mahmoud Abbas is recognised as the Prime Minister of the Palestinian authority. I believe that as soon as Hamas recognise Israel's right to exist, they too will be recognised.

What a joke.

The UK refuses to support the UN bid of the Palestinians.

In the article Why David Cameron is doing business with India's 'modern-day Nero' by Aditya Chakrabortty we have the lines:

Cameron wants to get on with the rest of the world. Sure, he'll grandstand about human rights, but in modern, cash-strapped Britain, he'll do business with anyone – even if they have presided over a pogrom.

The Saudis and Qatari corrupt our establishment with their cash.

Mind his statment is given at a time when coulson /brooks story is broken i think cameron has been pulling hagues strings

If Hague recognises them they have no credibility.

This will end in tears.

"Now we approach the real reasons. So what are these interests of the UK that mean we have to take sides in a civil war?"

Every one knows the reason is to weaken Iran, strenghten Israel and to keep US happy. Are you too naive to understand this simple goal ?

Maybe because Hamas repeatedly fire missiles into Israel which is illegal under international law.

not in my name

If the rebels had that much support this thing would already be over. We're calling for a speedy resolution , yet the action we're taking will surely result in exactly the opposite . And , it wouldn't require foreign Jihadis to be streaming into the country, as reinforcements, if this uprising was as universally supported across Syria as Hague claims .

Hague promised there would be no subservient relationship with Washington, how's that going? The EU's Ashton comes across as another stooge. The EU needs a truly independent foreign policy .

Downright Churchillian statesmanship from witless William Hague. It's one thing for those glorious champions of democracy in the Middle East, the apostate and adulterer-beheading Saudis, to be insulated from criticism by their close ties to the US. It's another for Britain to be made a spineless little servant of their fascist dictats over other countries in the region.

and so are the plethora of War Crimes currently being undertaken by (this so called) Syrian 'opposition'. Utter, unbridled hypocrisy from Gollum Hague; Syrian 'opposition'(sic) = freedom-fighters. democratically elected government of Palestine = 'terrorists' - nothing at all to do with the continuing 'cozy' relationship between Hague and his Zionist financial backers of course............

"Do they recognise Al Qaeda?"

I thought al Qaeda fighting hand to hand with 'Syrian opposition' to topple Assad supported and in recognition from us ?

Shit sorry man, my bad..they're the good guys now right? Yeah I get it, as Jesse Pinkman would say "yeah bitch, magnets!"

And be not compliant to the unbelievers and the hypocrites (william hague), and leave unregarded their annoying talk, and rely on Allah; and Allah is sufficient as a Protector. quran 33;48

Have you not seen those who have become hypocrites? They say to those of their brethren who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book: If you are driven forth, we shall certainly go forth with you, and we will never obey any one concerning you, and if you are fought against, we will certainly help you, and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars. quran 59;11

I guess this shows some degree of logic. They could have appointed the people on the number 39 bus in Clapham as the official government of Syria. At least the people they have chosen are somewhere in the Middle East.

This man will never learn

Maybe he's had his legendary seven pints before lunch and a 'grapple' with Seb Coe to get in the mood for his tough guy routine?...

The foreign secretary said he had sought and received "important and encouraging" assurances from the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces on agreeing a detailed political transition plan for Syria, as well as showing a "clear commitment to human rights and international humanitarian law, including the protection of religious communities and unfettered and safe access for humanitarian agencies".

Britain has sponsored the regime change in Syria from the beginning, just as they sponsored regime change in Iraq and Libya. Read here who the most often quoted Syrian Opposition Spokespeople are.

We are complicit in murder of the most terrible kind. The massacres in Syria in which babies had their throats cut coincidently happened just as the UNSC had their meetings, whoever carried out and sanctioned the massacres did so in the belief the outrage amplified through the privately owned western media would be enough to get a UN resolution enabling a no-fly zone, as happened in Libya, which could morph into a rebel air force.

So who exactly are the rebels in Syria? An ME expert at The Council on Foreign Relations described the situation thus a couple of months back:

The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now.

FULL ARTICLE

So perhaps our Foreign Secretary could explain why our soldiers are dying fighting Al-Qaeda backed Jihadists in Afghanistan while at the same time we are supporting Al-Qaeda backed Jihadists in Syria?

The hypocrisy is sickening, especially taken in conjunction with what is happening in Gaza. The Israelis can murder any number of Palestinians with the full backing of the UK and US, they are defending themselves! Assad of Syria fights back against a Western/GCC planned and backed Jihadist insurgency in his country that has massacred children and only regime change is on the agenda.

The idiots in our government are happily taking this country into another ill thought out, immoral, unlawful war of aggression, all the regional players see it for what it is, Russia and China aren't going to sit idly by as Western Imperialism attempts regime change in Iran. The line in the sand has been drawn with their UN vetoes, at best Hague and Clinton are looking at a protracted proxy war in Syria that will ultimately claim the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocents. Do they care? No! The 500'000 Iraqi children who died in Iraq were "worth it", according to Madeline Albright, in toppling Saddam. How many Syrian children are Clinton and Hague prepared to sacrifice to bring about regime change in Syria before moving on to Iran?

This just goes to show how little Western diplomats know about the nature of Islam. You do not have to be a right-wing-racist-extremist nutcase to understand that the underlying principle of Islam, built into it by its founder Mohammed, is one of conquest and the spread of Islam and its strict law of Sharia. These freedom fighters are not democrats they are islamists bent on the establishment of a new Islamic Empire.

Did Hague find some money under his desk or have they re-opened the Atlanic Bridge ??

what business have we in Syria?
Do we care what happens there if so why ?

"If the rebels had that much support this thing would already be over."

That applies even more to butcher Assad, who has all the advanced weapons
that outside countries could supply him. The idea of the regime putting this rebellion down is
the most unlikely scenario of all.

Again, this looks less like a humanitarian gesture, and more like UK taxpayers once again providing sweeteners for future private business deals, from which we will get absolutely no benefit or return.

Remember Wherrity and the war mongering arms dealing conflict manufacturing NeoCon Atlantic Bridgers, Hague is one of them; get the tax payers to pump up the profits of our arms industry who kick back to the corrupt politicians via directorships and the revolving door. All they have to do is start wars.

Who cares are what Hague or the UK thinks? Nobody is listening - the UK has no influence. I think Hague should be in the next series of Strictly Come Dancing - because like him, it is quite nice and harmless and in the end nobody gives a shit.

Why are we getting involved ? and what good can come of our involvement.

Surely this is for the Arab league to sort out.

That is the most comprehensive and incisive post I've yet seen,,,,
highlights the donkey-class of politician that is letting this bedlem happen.
Thanks for that,,,

Yes but that is what Britain has become.Marching behind the yanks and barking when ordered to.

So Hague has taken on himself the right to elect the next Syrian government. Isn't western imposed democracy wonderful

Don't be ridiculous. As well as the UK, France, Turkey and several Middle East countries already recognise National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces. It will just be a matter of time before the US follows suit.

Read the Robert Fisk's article below -

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/hamas-and-israel-have-opened-the-gates-of-hell-in-gaza-yet-again-and-the-number-of-journalistic-cliches-in-hell-is-growing-by-the-day-8327133.html

To quote him -
"As, in truth, are the Israeli attacks on Gaza. But don’t say that or you’ll be an anti-Semitic Nazi; almost as evil, wicked, unspeakable, devilish and murderous as the Hamas movement with which – again, please don’t mention this – Israel happily negotiated in the Eighties when they encouraged this bunch of mobsters to take power in Gaza and thus decapitate the exiled super-terrorist Arafat. The new exchange rate in Gaza for Palestinian and Israeli deaths has reached 16:1. It will rise, of course. The exchange rate in 2008-9 was 100:1.
"

Nah , You risk falling into the same trap - taking sides. As though one side has all the 'right' on its side. What's really appalling is how a western govt like ours is totally biased due to being pressurised. If we can't be objective and call for a cease fire then what hope for our country? The Israeli lobby has very clearly got many US lawmakers in their pocket , Big donation money in the US buys TV time, TV ad time gets them elected. So their unquestioning loyalty is understandable.

But that doesn't explain why Britain has to follow their 'paid for', biased position . We're a key country , if Britain parted ways with the US line and stated what many in this country believe . We could change the world dynamic. The US and Israel might end up isolated , but then the US population would at last ask why.

More money, means more guns and explosives, means more innocent people killed- this really is terrible

This is fucking stupid.

How about letting the poor bloody Syrians have a say as to who is going be their next dictator is going to be rather than other countries, especially the west deciding for them.

So, let me get this straight... our government is calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, while in Syria we're supporting an armed group trying to overthrow the government and perpetuating the war there. Western hypocrisy at its finest.

Maybe because Hamas repeatedly fire missiles into Israel which is illegal under international law.

I'm prepared to bow to virtually anyone's superior grasp of international law, but I'd have thought that a people who are held in a state of siege while their land is stolen, are deprived of adequate access to necessary food and medical supplies, suffer extrajudicial assassinations of their leaders and endure systematic humiliation when they try to cross at border posts have every right to retaliate.

What an evil givernement this is, I joined in half way through his speech and you should have heard this man say that

"...the people have been bombarded with F16, families have been killed children killed woman killed, families removed and displaced from their homes... war crimes gave been committed... "

I THOUGHT HE WAS TALIKING ABOUT THE ISRAELIS!!!!

SHAMELESS

Brilliant!

How many Syrian children you ask? Time to recall what that scumbag Albright said years ago.

'''Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.'''

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

Spot on, it can only end in tears.

Gee, I reckon that with the recognition of Kosovo and now this recognition of a government without territory or popular public mandate William Hague will be prepared to recognise the legitimacy of the I.R.A and any other group in the "British Isles" that wants to secede from the Union. Hague is not alone that great French socialist Monsewer Hollande has also done the same thing as Hague. No doubt Monsewer Hollande will now recognise the legitimacy of the Basque seperatists.
I would bet dollars to doughtnuts that this action has been prompted by Uncle sam. Now Obama will have a "legitimate reason", to actively support those terrorists seeking to destroy the Syrian state, after all Obama will not want to be seen as lagging behind the "allies".
I must confess that all I know about the present Syrian regime is what I have read in various newspapers and so I admit it is all hearsay.
But based upon previous experience of similar cases throughout my life, I suspect that at least 85% of what is published as the news on Syria is outright lies. Only time will tell if my suspicions are correct.
Just for the record here. I have no brief for the IRA or for Basque terrorist activities. The legitimacy of their political demands is something else. I have no brief for the terrorist activities of "democratically elected" governments or governments that have not been "democratically elected". I use the word democratic in the sense that it is used in countries that claim to have representative democracies.

Give them western weapons and they will fight the IDF.

Give them nuclear and the israelis might finally negotiate.