Nice art rb!

"Art: Yeaka R.C." If I'm not mistaken, that's the guy that drew this pic >>22224, correct?

Yup, one and the same! But Yeaka is a girl, not a guy.

Anon, if you're going to take those shots at my artist, you can fuck off. As I understand, you're weighing the style of a game created out-of-pocket and in bits of free time to an h-game produced by a dedicated studio and professional doujin artists. Good job!

She's great. And she will probably see this thread, so good job hurting a girl's feelings!

But, if you don't like the style, you can either 1) donate a shitload of money to hire me a design team, 2) go start your own team, or 3) grovel at the feet of the makers of "Katawa Shoujo" to see if they will include hypno content (BTW - I looked that up, and it's about crippled girls).

My plan is to make a solid chunk of this open to everybody and be responsive/program it with user requests. However I will be severely disincentized from doing that and probably say "screw it" if people aren't nice.

>>24679
>Yup, one and the same! But Yeaka is a girl, not a guy.
My mistake on the gender, but at least I got the artist right. Thanks for the confirmation. I went back and had a look at her dA gallery... So much delicious yuri. =3

Can't wait to see it- becoming corrupted and dominating monster girls sounds like a lot of fun, especially replacing this Black Rose.

>>24681
I actually have to say I like the art in rb9's little preview pic better than the stuff from Katawa Shoujo (looked it up, got some examples). That invalidates your entire point.
Perhaps you could stop parading around, claiming your opinion is truth, we could get on with the point of this topic.

> and here you are boasting about having spent thousands of dollars on what appears to be crappy artwork and coding.
I don't see him boasting. He's telling the truth as it is. If he's boasting, you're trolling.
The artwork is opinionated, but the coding? How can you even say the coding looks crappy? I don't see any code anywhere. I see 2d game style play, but no code. As one who aspires and is entering college next semester for programming I take offense when you base "code quality" on "how it looks". The quality of a code is measured by how well it works toward achieving the goal, not how pretty the GRAPHICS are.

It really boils down to this. You don't like it? You don't have to play it. So if you don't have something constructive to add, don't add it.
And you know what? I'll bet you'll play it after it's done despite your complaints.

@mods: Requesting that Anon's comments be removed from this thread.

Let's keep this civil and constructive.

Looks pretty awesome to me. RB as always your contributions to this fetish are greatly appreciated.
Yeaka: I haven't seen much of your work, so I don't want to judge too soon, but so far so good!
Can't wait till the demo hits.

Can someine explain the nudist?

>>24677
We all have our own preferences, if that's not obvious enough on it's own. There's really no reason to downplay another's choice.


@mods: request this be moved to /dev/. I'm not really sure how many people go there regularly or at all. (I visit everytime I'm here since it only takes the freakin' click of a mouse) I only know that the numbers aren't going to go up if people keep avoiding that section.

So please don't be afraid to post there even if you don't have any ideas yet finalized.

Hey Vanndril, thanks for the support. And I really appreciate that you like the style of it - that means a lot.

"Crappy coding." Anon, good assessment! Given that I have not released a demo yet.

"Nobody asked to be paid for their art." Anon, most of the commissioning artists I encounter are students or young professionals trying to earn extra money. They need to pay rent, and producing just a quality pinup takes hours. Artists are not charities. You are taking the actions of some Japanese guys responding to a rare meme development on a Chan - and translating that into expectations that artists work for free.

"Nobody asked to be paid for their time coding." I am not getting paid for my time.

Comparing my situation to Katawa Shoujo glosses over that game's obviously unique and distinguishable circumstances. It astounds me you are still pushing this point.

I bet you'll be one of the first to download the demo when it comes out. Cheers!

>>24692
LOL at the Mr. T poster on the back wall. Also, you make a good point. /dev/ needs more attention, and I think a huge project like this could really help drive some traffic there. Although, I think the last time a mod tried to move a thread to /dev/ it ended up causing the thread to 404 for some reason...

Also, I think I'll just leave this here:
http://yeaka.deviantart.com/gallery/
That's Yeaka's dA gallery for those wanting to get a sample of her art. Like I said, a LOT of delicious yuri in there. =3

Wow, in posting my last comment, I regret wasting my time trying to rationally address Anon's points. I agree with Mindwipe - these comments are uncivil and counterproductive.

I understand and accept criticism if somebody is not a fan of the artstyle. However, you are not being critical - you are being downright offensive to the artist.

I would like to bring this thread back on topic and welcome general comments and... requests! I can't promise every request will make it in. But generally, if requests are more general there is a greater chance I can adapt them to what I have and include them (i.e. if you want the heroine dominating monstergirls, for example, or a particular type of induction).

Finally, I am OK with dev forum - is that creative development? Will people actually see that thread? One of the reasons I posted this is to receive and respond to feedback and requests. I don't want anybody to get left out because they missed the thread (I didn't actually know about /dev until now).

>>24696
>is that creative development?
Yes

>Will people actually see that thread?
Good question. Like Rasen said, not a lot of people seem to post there. But it becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy when no one posts there simply because they think no one posts there. :P

I don't know. In truth, it's likely that less people will see your post in /dev/ compared to here. But this IS the type of post that belongs in /dev/.

I'm cool with that, we could do post links or so and I'm sure word will spread. Given the small nature

Wait a minute, what are you using to make this? Because from that OP picture it looks like something made in RPGMaker. You are using actual code for this, right?

>>24689
No, I'm being defensive because you offended MY OPINION on the art. I like her art better. I just love how you practically stated I can't have the opinion I have. Who's arguing with emotion and who with common sense again?
*mumbles* The only reason I may seem emotional to you is because people like you genuinely piss me off.
Now this is the last I will post on the subject. You can keep posting about it if you want, but you'll look silly talking to yourself.

>>24709
I was thinking that too. XD
RPG Maker DOES have a scripting engine that allows some really badass stuff to be done though. Even if he is I wouldn't mind it. I mean look how popular the RPG Maker Tentacle Mind Control game was. The gameplay can be handled by RPG Maker and that'll be fine so long as the content (pics included) is good.

Double post again, damnit. I need to not forget to reply to things.

>>24696
I have a suggestion. Make sure there's plenty of Mind Control related DOMINANCE on the side of the player character too, for when she's winning.
I love hypnofetish but this game would mean all the less to me if it was all the player character being controlled and not the player character controlling (too). I'm not a fan of stuff that makes me or whatever character I'm controlling (and thus in extension the player) a Sub rather than a Dom or Dom-Sub (the kind that are a little of both or can easily switch between them).

>>24716
And who says i can't have an Opinion?

Given the choice of what people would find hotter, slightly nicer sprites and/or the writing/voices/art, I decided to go with the latter. Not that it won't be visually appealing, but given that this game is similar in nature to MGQ.

I'm not too squeamish about doing this given that it seems almost every H-game uses the same damn engine that involves clicking the mouse a hundred times through stuff you can't understand to get to a single piece of content.

>>24690

Cleaned up a bit. And yes, do keep things civil. If I missed cleaning up something, report it. I only skimmed through the posts.

>>24718
>I have a suggestion. Make sure there's plenty of Mind Control related DOMINANCE on the side of the player character too, for when she's winning.
Second. I'm sure I'll have plenty of fun trying to get all the bad endings to see how the heroine gets controlled, but I'd like the good endings to be just as satisfying. It would be nice if you could include some "turning the tables" scenarios, where the heroine starts out being controlled, but manages to break free and take control of her foe. That way, we get the best of both worlds. :)

Hmm, something I would like to see as far as inductions go... Group induction, like a group of girls ganging up on you, surrounding you, whispering hypnotic suggestions, staring at you with hypnotic eyes, kind of a peer pressure style induction.

Another would be where the heroine is slowed down through induction, hypnotized into believing her movements are getting slower and slower, or that the villainess's movements are getting faster and faster, until she believe herself at the mercy to the villainess's superior skills.

>>24696
Oh, sorry for the double post, but this came to me later. What we could do is leave this thread here for awareness, but create a new thread in /dev/ for feedback and the like.

(pic related to first idea in previous post)

I think I know what to do with the dominance factor. I'll probably do it with the main villains, possibly a handful of the monstergirls.

Also, the game's main (bad) ending will have three main paths. One will be becoming enslaved by the villainess. Second will be impressing and joining the villainess as her right hand. The third will be enslaving the villainess and stealing her power, becoming the new villainess.

That's a great idea! I would like to play a game like this.
For the suggestions...mmmh...I don't know...

Oh yeah, and for the title, I vote for "Black Rose: (caption here)". I don't actually have any ideas for the subtitle, I just think "Black Rose" sounds cooler than "Hypnotic Rose".

My vote is also for Black Rose. Or maybe something like "Legend of the Black Rose" though that leans a bit to the generic I think.

I vote black rose, but I don't know about a caption.
maybe "mind games"?

Awesome - Black Rose has also been my working title. I've just been debating a caption to make the content more clear.

>>24738
So the caption should be something that suggests yuri and mind control... I can't help but think that the word "heroine" and some form of the word "hypnosis" (hypnotized, hypnotizing, hypnotic) should be in there somewhere...

Bah. I'm terrible at thinking of names. :P

Black Rose: Sapphic Sway

Sapphic is a less common way of saying lesbian, sway implies some seduction... Though it might be better to just go with that, however I feel that that would be more common...

Sapphic Enthrallment might be better still, as it states the enslavement aspect, though in a bewitching way.

I've always been fond of the words "enthrall" and "entrance".

>>24738
>>24741 (for reference)
Mmmm....what about...
Order of the Black Rose: Saphic Seduction

Too long?
Think about a title screen where Saphic Seduction would be placed below Order of the Black Rose. I think it would look and sound catchy.

>>24744
Order of the Black Rose makes it sound like final fantasy 2.

>>24745
What about "Epic of the Black Rose"?

Or we could just stick with "Black Rose".

Thinking about it, would it be so bad to use "monstergirl quest" as the label, then using a caption to work in the rose angle? Something like
"Monstergirl Quest: Spell of the Imperial Rose". You get an inkling of what the game is about, there's a bit of name recognition, but it's still distinct (I'm trying to apply a more specific name over Black Rose). It's still a work in progress, but I feel good about the direction.
"Well, what do you think everyone?"

>>24757
I admit, "____ of the Black Rose" sounds like a better subtitle than main title.

Only rb9 can decide if he wants to make this a MGQ game or not.

The issue I see with calling this MGQ is that people will accuse it of being a ripoff. Even though I first came up with the idea of "Monstergirl Quest" for my version, 2-3 years before Monmosu was released.

What about "Black Rose: Entranced"?

>>24738
Hey you. You did the original MGC? Well fuck you. I hate you with the burning passion of a thousand suns. MGC was the best thing I have ever played ever, and it was never really finished. This has caused me endless sadness.

Seriously, though. I love you, man. The witch's tower was most excellent. CONTINUE YOUR LEGACY OF GLORIOUS CREATION.

Sorry for DP - or "Entranced by Monstergirls"

I do like the idea of having monstergirls in there. And indicating it's about hypno. I'm tempted to have the title be about monstergirl hypno.

"Entranced by Monstergirls : Black Rose"

OK, not a DP, but I guess this will is a DP now, ha.

Yes, I made the original MGQ. I've always wanted to continue but I was always frustrated at not having art for it.

If I can properly get your hopes up, "Black Rose: Entranced by Monstergirls" (that has a decent ring?) is more or less designed to be MGQ on medically unsafe steroids.

HOWEVER for everybody that liked MGQ... tell me your favorite parts of it! I will literally put in the aspects people like.

For example, what I'm programming right now is the first encounter with one of the villains. I think people liked the ability to be able to resist versus submit - there will be that.

>>24766
I think that the big draw for the witch's tower wasn't just that you could submit or resist, but that there were different ways in which you could submit.

>>24766

I'd rather have something more specific and distinct than "Black Rose" though. A name that will raise it above generic fantasy-ness. Though it's more acceptable if it is a subtitle. I still like the idea of calling it the Imperial Rose. Though as a thought, a synonym for black like Onyx, Obsidian, Ebony, or even Midnight would all be nice as well.
Either way, I do have a few ideas. Feel free to play with the word "black"

Whisper of the Black Rose
Queen of the Black Rose
Shadow of the Black Rose
Glamor of the Black Rose (a personal like for me. Glamor= beauty, as well as Charm, like magic, and it is also traditionally the term for faerie magic of illusion/enthrallment as well. Sounds nice as well. "Glamor of the Midnight Rose" anyone?)

And if you really did come up with the idea for Monstergirl Quest first, I'd definitely claim the name as your own and make it yours. Not to mention that this will be the more accessible game for westerners anyway. It's short, sweet, to the point, and doesn't sound too weird.

>>24772
>Whisper of the Black Rose
Oooooooooo... I like this one. :)

Well I was going to try to avoid confrontation and confusion in the community...

"Glamour of the Midnight Rose..."

I think Black Rose, while "generic" still has a nice, simple ring to it. Roses aren't generally black anyway, so it's mysterious enough.

Now on the villainess stuff, there were multiple ways to submit to her, you mean in that you talked to her like 8 times and there were different "reactions" you had?

On that note, a number of them involved fetishes. I've tried to tone down pantyhose etc. in this one, but if you guys don't mind I'll crank that up. I.e. right now the catgirl (pictured in the teaser) is bare legged with boots. I was thinking of sticking black hose on her.

In MGQ it seemed people were pretty flexible with whatever, but it's your call.

>>24773
Actually, on second thought, "Glamor of the Midnight (or Black) Rose" does have a really nice ring to it, and I'm a fan of double meanings.

>>24785
Define "crank up". I definitely prefer bare skin, but I don't *mind* pantyhose. But if a majority of the characters were wearing them, I feel it would get old pretty fast.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the character's design looks good with pantyhose, then fine. Just don't give a character hose for the sake of giving them hose.

(The above is purely my opinion and not the opinion of hypnochan or its users)

>>24785
From phone atm.
If not in the title, then at least in game I would like a bit fancier name for the rose.
Any names clicking, say so.

Majority of catgirls bare legs, a couple of them hose. Is that good?

>>24767
I'm so happy when people say they enjoyed Witch's Tower ^__^

How we set it up was basically a Correct, Wrong, and Submissive. Correct was basically answers that you calmly avoided her seduction, wrong ones were where you resisted too hard and Alicia ended up tricking you into it, and submission, well I think those were self evident.

Now, with people wanting to be dominate as well, if it were possibly, what if we could add a 4th option, a Seduction answer, for certain dialog scenes. One with the heroine turning the tables instead, flustering the monstergirl/villainess, and causing their lust take control. ... However, if you use this at the wrong time/with the wrong fetish(or something), the villainess with easily find know, lure you into thinking that's she's given in, only to overwhelm you with her charms.

Super rough example: Try to tempt villainess into letting you give a puff puff
(is her fetish): You Puff Puff her into submission, enjoy it a little too much, and decide to become the new villainess
(isn't her fetish) Get's close to your beast, says how tempting they are, then gives you a sudden charm kiss, pops behind you, and begins groping you into submission, telling you how wonderful they are, and making it your fetish to always have them groped, enslaved~

Hmm, if a forth option isn't optional, it might be good to sometimes to save the option for key parts near the end, like if you been doing good answers and your "reward" is the option to either progress, or go for that ending... Maybe you can choose from a certain # of fetishes...

Not sure, might be too complicated at the moment, definitely needs some tuning.

>>24790
Sounds good.

>>24791
This sounds interesting...if not a little confusing.

>>24791
I know we touched on that at least a bit with the concept of purification. Don't know if it's still in though.

>>24792
>>24793
Sorry about that, I feel rushed on anything but a email ^__^ (especially with this small box to type into...)

But basically, what we have as far as dialog choices is this(using Witch's Tower as a basis)
1) Good choice (progression, not falling under a charm)
2) Bad choice (tricked and charmed into enslavement)
3) Submission (giving in to charm, becoming a minion/lover)

Now, since people want the option for a domination end, we would need a new option added to dialog(assuming that would be the mechanic used). That would be a Seduction choice.

4) Seduction (attempt to seduce the enemy and make them your thrall).

Now, like the submission choices, this would kinda be an obviously worded choice. That's the basics.

However, I would like to see possible turnabout in this, because one of the hottest things to me is when a heroine tries to play her foe(via acting innocent or trying to be seductive), only to have the tables turned on her and be completely outclassed and overwhelmed. It would also make such a obviously worded choice risky. The question is, how to work that in if applicable...

Wow, this looks really cool and exciting. Can't wait to give it a try. I'll try to think of something more productive to add later, but I just needed to say how cool this sounds. :)

Interesting, but is this really the right board for this? /dis/cussion threads go in /dis/. /dev/elopment threads go in /dev/. Hardly seems fair to all of the other people who follow the rules to let this thread stay here just because /hyp/ is where all of the action is.

>>24728
This doesn't sound like a fair solution. Otherwise, why shouldn't all of the other developers post advertisement threads here too? I think the thread should just be moved into /dev/ or /dis/, OP's preference. There's no need to post a different Black Rose thread in every single board of Hypnochan. If rb9 really wants to advertise the game in the least obnoxious and most rule-abiding way, what he can do is provide a link in each of his posts to the OP post of the thread. So for example, say I wanted to link you to Cypress's thread in /dev/. I would just include this link, http://hypnochan.org/dev/res/424.html , at the bottom of each of my posts with the words "Click here to learn more about [the name of Cypress's mod]!" Something like that, akin to signatures on a webforum, would be a less-intrusive, more rule-abiding way to go about this.

>>24696
>>24692
Note we both asked for a mod to move this to /dev. No mod has moved it to dev. I am not a mod, so I can't do it myself. Not much I can do there.

Yes and Rainday pretty much wrote the majority of the witch tower sequence, so give him credit for that. I think the seduction idea is interesting but probably not feasible (to have villainess strengths/weaknesses). There will be chances to turn the tables but the core philosophy of this game (and the content I create) is bad ends.

dude this sounds pretty awesome and I cant wait...

and I still sometimes go back to my save in the tower ^.^ so that pretty much tells you how I liked it

If people tell me what was so sexy about the tower I'll recreate it =D

Gotta say, happy to hear about this!

Withholding further judgement till we get a real demo, but best o' lick :)

Hey rb9, I have got some requests. Can you have the heroine be mind-controlled by some type of music? The villainess could play a flute or violin and the heroine finds it so lovely that she just wants to listen to it forever...something like that?

Also, one of my favorite endings in your first game was the neko in the bath. Could you put a similar ending in your new game, please?

Instrument can probably happen. Also on neko in bath - again I repeat please try to draw out the elements that you liked about the endings. I'm not going to just redo MGQ. Unless you want aspects redone. I mean I COULD put in a Witch's tower scene. There is a witch villain. Basically be the same scene except with artwork and voices.
Neko bath is tougher, what elements did you like from that?

Are you planning on doing all the coding yourself or are you looking for any help in that area? Nudge nudge wink wink

I liked the trap element. How all you see is a treasure chest in some water, then as soon as you step in...BAM! A neko who was hidden offscreen ends up capturing you.

Also, I liked the neko's last sentence, where she said, "You will be my bath partner forever." I think the idea of the heroine being seduced and then washing her new mistress is pretty good.

I definitely loved the costume (and pantyhose) part of the tower, slowly being seduced as she was traveling the tower.

Cant wait for the demo!

kalten here, just repping an awesome guy and his drive to create amazing content. :)

There's a chance I might actually release the game in parts. The pros of this are - getting content faster, affordability.

>>24836
certainly a viable option. speaking from experience, it's easier to hit people for small amounts of money multiple times than a single bulk payment. My sleepymaid donations and steam purchases attest to that.

ok one thing I liked was the neko makeover scene thingy

I can guarantee you as a 100% promise that there is a neko makeover in this. Probably in the demo.

Ooooh ho ho ho! Well I certainly loved your work on Monster Girl Quest, rb9, as your writing was superb in that regard. So yes, I will be looking forward to this one as well.

If you need any assistance, weather it be sprite work, scenarios, or simple artwork, I would be more than happy to oblige and offer my services.

>>24846
sweet but is it possible to get more from the neko cause after I corrupted rosa I felt a tad disappointed it was over...so yeah...oh and keep up the good work

Which scene was Rosa? It's actually been a year or so since I touched MGQ so my memory is fuzzy.

>>24896
oh wait nvm its Rosa that is the head kitty...then who do you corrupt into a kitty...I don't remember now...

When do you think the demo will be released :)?

nthing the need for a domination route

Demo won't be tonight, or tomorrow night :)

There will be domination, but I don't know if you could consider it a "path." I tend to shy away from a "path" approach since it makes getting the endings harder. Really this is developing like MGQ where you get rewarded for experimenting in different ways and exploring things.

>>24933
I can promise $15 towards getting the full game, rb9. Also, who's the guy who did the 2008 and 2009 Christmas fics? He missed last year, and I was looking forward to what they had planned for ****. XD

Yeah - I'm breaking up the games and putting even MORE content into each half. Before my target was approximately 60 bad ends total. However now... it could even be more.

>>24943

Excellent~. So when you say halves, you're dividing by three, right?

Wow! MonsterGirl Quest was excellent, and I thought the project was dead for like a year. Can't wait to play this. You got a really nice artist for this, too! Her artwork is amazing ^^

I realize it probably wouldn't be as easy to implement in this game as it was in MGQ, but I was a pretty big fan of how the catgirls would make minor seduction attempts every time you made eye contact.

Well you're in for a treat, because that element is possibly heavier in this game.

rb9, would you be open to putting TF in the game? I've got a detailed request involving transformation if you want to hear it.

Regarding the picture in the starting post: Was the TF'ed girl's hair blonde before she was TF'ed, or did it turn blonde?

Quick question... Where can you find MGQ? I probably missed it somewhere in the pile of replies, but...

Shit. I didn't even know you existed, bro. Don't take it as a personal shot or anything, but so many people try to cater to the various fetishes in such half-assed ways, I generally overlook those who do it with gusto. Kudos if you do succeed in doing something great here.

ON THAT NOTE... Why do we need "Black Rose" in the name? Of course, you're the creator, so if you want to do it that way, could I throw in a title suggestion?

Eternal Struggle: Domination of the Black Rose

Also, if you want some help on writing, I could be your man. If you need some proof of my handiwork, check it out on Ensnared, in the creative area. InnerVerse Unlimited is the work in progress, though I haven't been on to update in a while. Personal issues.

Now, aside the rather eager self-promotion...

Throw me a bone. I don't want to read this entire thread, sifting through crap posts and their electronic dopplegangers, great posts. Well, I did a bit of reading and seen another Anon has yet to accept the worldly truth- Critics are assholes, and their victims tend to cry. Not trying to demean you, rb9, but the whole "protect our leader" group mentality is a bit annoying. I do encourage great shit now and then, and definitely know how to be an ass and have an opinion while making people whine about how mean I am (Looking at you, Kaa X), but in truth, if you can't deal with some "ugly" words and need a group behind you, then why are you trying?

With that sidetrack having reduced my previous paragraph to shit, I'll get to the point. What is the story? What should it be built around? Who is our protagonist? What is the purpose? What is accomplished?

My suggestion:

Our protagonist is a player-named rogue who stumbles across a rather interesting legend. Pursuing the legend, she attempts to track down and find clues and answers as to what is behind the entire thing, and the persons involved. Along the way, there are various enemies attempting to prevent her from uncovering this truth, as well as shifty side-characters who, when properly "pushed", hint at things important to the story. If you don't "push" them right, they'll sell you out for something and turn away.

Let's make this fun, though.
-Monstergirls. Especially slimes and Harpy's.
-Corruption. But not blatant shit. Make it seem subtle, yet obvious.
-Smoking is pretty alright, though if you overdo it, expect some fan retaliation
-A big one for most of us: Bimbo. If our hero is turned into one, guaranteed very few of us will make it to the next part.
-Although people might rip me apart for this, Haigakure/Posing.
-TF with small stuff (extra organs, etc) to HUGE changes (gender-bender, furry, etc). Hell, for shits and giggles, make one boss have a fraternal mindframe, where she wants a daughter, but the victim is unable to revert (Game Over. Computer Wins).

Just throwing some stuff out there. If you like, sweet. If not, just suggesting, bro.

>>24997

If there is Haigure I will personally track you down and murder you as slowly as possible.

I am also anti-Haigure. That fetish does not appeal to me at all.

>>24997
A lot of points here, I'll try to hit the main ones.
1) You don't have the original person's posts because a mod stepped in and thought it was appropriate to delete them. There was a series of posts that were outrageously and unnecessarily insulting to the artist and filled with completely spite toward other posters. I have a thick skin for critique but I also won't let someone prance around and insult friends or my artist (without good reason, of course, if there's something you don't like about the idea or style I'd like to hear). And I don't need any fanclubs to encourage me to tell someone off. Others chimed in because the guy was really out of line.
2) Thanks for the big-picture ideas, but the game is already well into development and as mentioned at least 70-80% of artwork is done. However some of these specific elements I can certainly address.
3) On the title I think I am going to settle on something containing "Hypnotized by Monstergirls" or "Charmed by Monstergirls." Possibly the latter, then with a subtitle referencing the Black Rose.
4) I am actually demonstrating impressive restraint with my own fetishes. A good number of things "I like" is going in the demo, actually. Part 2 features a Barb-E type villainess, but otherwise the Barb-E type will be the only one that smokes and there might be some enemies with hypnotic mists, etc. but those will be based on pheromones and incense. There is a lot of hypno! That's the one thing there's a lot of.
5) I don't know what you mean by blatant corruption. Usually my stories and sequences are fairly drawn out (see MGQ).
6) "Hell, for shits and giggles, make one boss have a fraternal mindframe, where she wants a daughter, but the victim is unable to revert" not sure what this means.
Anyway thanks for the detailed feedback and post. I'll get more story description out soon. I would also suggest playing MGQ (below) to get an idea of my style if you haven't already. The core of the game is monstergirls and hypno.

>>24998
No haigure. Maybe one pic if a lot of people want comic relief.

>>24993
There is TF, that is about a third of the game. What I have tried to do with the game is balance out the TF fantasies of the community. A fair number are "villain's minion" evil-conversion type TFs. Most of the monstergirls involve an ending of TF into that monstergirl. There is a spectrum involved. The bunnygirl is one of the lightest, actually, as far as physical TF. Her hair is originally blonde. There are other TFs that are much "harder." However I had not thought of bimbo, although two of them (bunnygirl included) have elements that I would consider bimbo. I don't have the fetish myself so I could be wrong. It'll be in the demo though so you'll have a chance to give feedback, or you can make suggestions (is it personality and outfit?).

>>24995
I'm not sure where it's uploaded. I released it years ago. There's a forum at mgq.lefora.com, so it may still be uploaded there.

>>24994
She was blonde. Is this a request for harder TF or more bimbofication? I've had this debate with people whether hair color should change in TFs - I'd say she keeps her original in most but in some of the harder ones it changes. However it is an easy edit to do so if a ton of people want hair color changes I can have Yeaka R.C. do it.

>>25001
Just a quick answer to your question on >>24993
bimbo fetish usually includes:
-girl gaining very curvy body
-blond hair
-spike in arousal and horniess
-sharp drop in intelligence
-Fixed happy personality, with a focus on sex and vapid things like clothing and make up.

that's it in a nut-shell. You can think of it as a kind of corruption, with physical, mental, and outfit elements to it.

It would be nice to have her hair color change to blonde. However, yes, that was a subtle request for bimbofication.

>>25001
Oops. Forgive me, i'm new on image boards. Had to see how to reply to a specific message first.
Here's my reply:

It would be nice to have her hair color change to blonde. However, yes, that was a subtle request for bimbofication.

Transformation is a must!...That is all

woah, that first pic is awesome, congrats i must say,

do you perchance have any more preview pics?

Actually, I was going to request some inanimate TF's. The heroine comes across a villainess who TF's her into an article of female clothing. Something like a new dress or a swimsuit, and then the villainess wears the newly transformed heroine before making some teasing remarks (or if it is a swimsuit, the vilainess could go swimming.) Then we get the game over screen.

Thrall of the Black Rose

Inanimate is definitely doable... not sure where to stick it in but I can work with that.

Her original hair is blonde.

>>25001
Well, fine. Maybe I'll ask SleepyMaid or P.Chronos help me develop a game and we'll call it AWESOME GAME cause it'll be awesome. >->

But on a serious note, about 6...

I like sex games as much as the next guy. Better when the fetish is touched upon and people are like "Yay". Ignoring that last part, I was trying to pitch a casual idea. Like, y'know, once you're a child, that's it. Game Over. You join this rather large surrogate family. Yes, I realize fans would get pissed exponentially, but some might be like "SHIT NIGHTMARE FUEL" and want to push further through. That's the part where you could set the pace to being full hard mode (or just hard enough that racing through isn't possible), and preventing people from being disappointed. I realize not everyone is full of disappointing outcome for huge hype (Looking at you, Bethesda), but meh.

ANYWAYS, you're welcome, and no problem. If you ever need my input, you know where to find me.

PS I suggested Haigakure for posterity.

PPS I understand if the guy was a total shithead. A ban for shitting severely is acceptable. A ban for being a mild douche is shit, though (STILL looking at you, Kaa X)

hey rb9 check the yahoo group I think you've been hacked bro

>>25044
LOL I think you're better off working with me than getting P.Chronos to, out of all things, make a whole game.
Sorry I still have no idea what you mean by the "child" idea. What happens? Do you mean the heroine is TFed into a loli or she just developed a child-like personality? One of the endings does involve a heavy child-like element. Although personally I am trying to avoid loli a bit, since the other MGQ is so heavy on it.

Okay, how about some part with a very sensual bedtime induction, i.e. heroine goes to bed, and wakes up to see a succubus or some such on top of her, caressing her, kissing her, and making passionate love to her, the very experience proving very hypnotic(her every touch causing your body to tingle and relax, her eyes making passion well up within you, her sways and movements mesmerizing you even further).

4 monstergirls that use the elements to entrance you, or just element entrancements(think a sexy version of the 4 fiends from FF4, would be a nice tribute too lol). Fire, wind/electricity, water/ice, and poison/chemicals. Example: A salamander girl uses her heat to melt your mind with her touches or fire attacks, and when your too hot to think, she dips you in the pit of lava that she just emerged from, moments later the heroine comes out roaring, transformed into a mind melted horny salamander girl as well(no pain or death of course).

Again general is better than specific. I.e. four-fiends is impractical as you already know pretty much all the monster girls are designed and created already.

However first idea is much more workable, as it can be definitely included for the existing succubus monster.

But keeping things general and extrapolating the "concepts" you like from them greatly improves the odds or in most cases guarantees that they will make it into the game.

>>25054
*sigh* True, what I mostly wanted to convey with that one was using elemental forces as a seduction focus, but like always, I got a little carried away with my fun ideas, heh.

Hmmm, sorry for the double post, but this just came to me(probably because of the Shantae thread). A bottle that turns you into a loyal genie who will grant her mistress's every wish. There are two ways I could see it going down, 1 is finding the bottle and being sucked into it, the bottle is filled with hypnotic smoke and soft pillows and magic whisp that arouse you and whisper new thoughts into your head. What follows is a long drawn out transformation into a genie. Another is the more "classic" one where you find a genie and she tries to trick you into wishing for swapped places/becoming her hypnotic pet, or other fun things. That could have a few fun option and bad ends, but yeah, it might be too ambitious and big, wish this came to me earlier though. I will say one thing though, such a thing could have a large amount of possibilities for wish fulfillment.

>>25061
I would just repeat that general is much easier than specific. Genie is something I honestly haven't thought of. It would go well with the dancer, although I feel like I'm oversaturated with content for her as is. I could either pair it with the dancer or make the bottle like a "trap."

>>25075
Hmm, since this game is most likely going to split into 3 parts, I would recommend saving something like this for the end. That way, if things go well you could expand the genie and use her to grant some of the players wishes(lose to a group of bosses, let a previous monstergirl have some passionate revenge on you, enact some type of fantasy, etc). Wouldn't have to be anything costly, reuse scenes, different text. But if things only fair so-so, you could make it a simple trap in the final dungeon or drop it entirely.

Let me get this straight. This game is going to have yuri, hypnosis, vore, absorption, TF and AR......screw Twisted Metal! This is now the game I am most hyped to play!

>>25051
TF'd into a loli, then put into a mentality where she thinks the enemy is her mom. Brainwashing of sorts, though without an adult ending. I know fans would shit on me for it, but I dunno. I like the whole "Set the pace with fear" thing.

Fear? What are you talking about, Ninjabob? I think what you just described is pretty hot.

I don't know about putting in loli but thre will definitely be a "motherly" TF. Featuring unbirthing/rebirthing and some vore.

Also the game won't be 3 parts, it will be two. I don't know where the 3 came from, since I said halves. However it may end up looking like 3 because I'm going to release the demo which is basically like another part.

I'd personally want something like...

You're in a really girly room and everything you touch slowly makes you more and more child like till the point where you then turn into a child or something.

>>25094

If you can find some level of interactivity in the hypnosis you will make a godlike game. You mentioned voice acting in it. Find a few willing women to read the lines that have the skill practiced on the interbutts and buddy you have a game that not only will be a hit among the community but probably bring some light on the fetish in general. Other than that this is sounding pretty neat. Keep it up.

Please elaborate on what interactivity might mean. Most of it is player interactive, not where you're choosing every line but there are player choices throughout the game. Plus the game isn't full VA (as in every single line) - that would probably make the game cost twice as much to produce and I don't think that cost is worth undertaking and passing along. It's mostly for sound effects, key lines, etc.

>>25091
Well, I can't say that there will be a fear focus, there is one villainess I designed that's a little more on the hardcore side. I hope you enjoy when she hits you with her trollface.

LOL

>>25158
Oh, if you think I'll let the jester go without a face like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10519953/sample_accf4f16e2799efc1c579f7ad51d5be8.jpg
and a delicious insane laugh, then think again XD.

>>25159
Please have Beatrice...

"If you can find some level of interactivity in the hypnosis you will make a godlike game."
"Please elaborate on what interactivity might mean."
I'm not the previous annonymous, but I'll explain my interpretation (as I agree with what he says as I interpret it):
I think what is meant is about having a variety of ways to "break" each character, with a modicum of "having to figure out how to do so". This would likely require having a bit of specific game mechanics devoted specifically for this purpose, as opposed to more "visual novel" type interactions with the NPC. Personally I can't say I've ever played a MC game that fits the bill, which arguably is not surprising given how non trivial and niche that sounds (I do think there are some japanese games that might somewhat fit the bill from the descriptions I've read of them, but I can't really judge so as I don't read japanese).
Your game, on the other hand, sounds more like a "heroine trying to avoid being corrupted" kind of thing (correct me if I'm wrong), which IS something I've see rather well done before in english, in the form of some RAGS games. This, to me, does indeed (by design) limit much of the possibility for the kind of interactivity I would like to one day see in some MC games, but I'm no less interested in your game because of that.

Can't necessarily rule that out. I started this project from the villainess perspective and decided to go with more of a MGQ-style. However there may be ways to put those elements here.

I am sure some RAGS games have similar avoid-corruption elements, and I've played a handful of them. However this game will be unique in focusing on yuri, hypno, and corruption combined, which I have found hard to find. There are a handful of games incorporating one or two of those elements, but not many incorporating all. Add in my style of writing teasing, seductive villains with the artwork and I think I'm offering something that hasn't been presented in this way before.

>>25167
Yuri hypno corruption is very hard to find, yes, although I've never been able to work out exactly why. Props to you for the project either way, nothing but respect for people that create stuff, and your stuff particularly has always been awesome, as far as I can tell. I wish you luck.

Keep on rocking, rb.

I've been wondering. Since you have cancelled future development on Monstergirl Quest there would be no harm on releasing all of the charm and plot details you were keeping to yourself, like how many heroines you were going to cure or who Reina's mistress was exactly. Also I suspect we were going to encounter a charmed Celes eventually but you never got that far. And would you mind too much if you released Monstergirl Quest as it was after you had last worked on it?

You might be shocked to hear that a lot of the game I kinda made up as I went along.

However the next area I was working on was a Siren cove - basically an island that had an normal illusion of an appearance and when you slept there it became this Siren island you needed to escape from.

After that, it was new continent time with a beegirl forest and Maid castle.

I won't do every single thing in this project but there will be a forest area. Think of it as complementary, so some things will carry over, some things are slightly "remade" to be better, and others are completely new.

Well, hopefully it all goes well :). How have the Holiday's been for ya?

Oh, and this game needs its own maid section as well, hopefully that idea hasn't been dropped!

Here, here! I second that!

Alright, alright, I'll see what I can do about maids. How do I make a maid into a monstergirl though? Or would a heroine TF into maid to serve a villain suffice?

>>25212
Hmm...depends on how you want to do it. Crossing with puppet/dolls might work. Could apply to the final boss. Maybe the Domme, or if you make it a bondage maid, then the Jester.
Could also hybridize it with a cowgirl TF perchance, and maybe slip it under with the witch. Just some quick thoughts.

>>25212
>>25212

Yeah, just have a very controlling monster girl who has maids and is wanting to slowly turn you into one, maybe even have it so not many people even know she's a monster besides people that are close to her. Have it so you're infiltrating it to get closer to her (And if you mess up you forget you're infiltrating and you just become a maid), and have to pass a final test or something to even see her.

For some reason, I would imagine a Lamia to have maids, that's just me though. Also, even if you don't like my idea, use it to stem your own if you would like.

I think I know how I'm going to handle it.

How is progress anyways?

Game introduction is complete. Patty Hose is about complete as well. I'm sticking her in the demo to be fair, since I am personally a hose fan.

>>25286
Good to hear. ^^

As for the $15 I said I would set aside... its at $13. Had to dip into it when I went to the movies yesterday. >.>

So, I was on that site of yours that has the download for MGQ and was browsing the "ideas" section and was wondering how much of that would make it into this one? A lot of them are pretty good.

>>25212
>>25215
I have a few thoughts on maids as well, see if there is anything you want to use. We could make the maids cow girl maids(milk/dairy maids), which would keep the monstergirl theme, as well as explaining their submissive behavior.

If you want, there's a possibility to make it into a full fledged event(mixing in a little bit of Maid Manor is possible from the old MGQ http://mgq.lefora.com/2010/09/05/maid-mansion/#post4 ). You would either have to rescuse a princess or the Madam has been acting strange recently. As for the Madam, she could be possessed by some type of monstergirl(for instance, a kitsune(pictured right)), turned into a vampiress, or she could be some spoiled "ojou-sama" who desires every pretty girl who crosses her path.

However, this would be a large deviation from the main path of the game... A fun one, but not related to the story really(I could think of some ways to tie it in at the end though).

>>25357
Glad you liked them =)I didn't write all of them, but I had a fun time with the ones I did.

>>25367
>>25367

Yeah, a grand majority were from you, and most were really good.

How's the game coming along?

Any news at all?

Still going!

Is there any intention of...not so much a bad end but alternate end? Some way to become a corruptor rather than being corrupted all the time?

"I've had enough! You'll all submit to me, you wretched creatures?"

It's outright depressing to always be running a fearful of the next trap or encounter. Sooner or later, you'll want to fight, and/or get payback....yu know?

Focus of this game is on bad ends. I do one thing, and I do it pretty well, so I try to stick with that. That isn't to say I won't have those elements or types of endings though.

Any more preview stuff?

>>25693
@rb9: I heard rumours that an awesome secret mini-demo got released somewhere on your games website. Any truth about that? I guess releasing it to the public would get you much more attention... and customers later on ;).

I have a few people in the community who I've grown to trust over the years helping with testing and some design aspects. I don't like releasing alpha builds of things to the public because I think that spoils the surprise when the finished product comes out. I had some things come up but rest assured the demo is underway.

So, some advice to gauge interest. I ran into a little snag with RMXP and it looks like the compression limit is around 100 MB. So I am adapting to fit that but it looks like the whole game can probably work as 6 parts, with each one having a boss.

Again honestly I am not trying to profit or anything off this - this isn't really an efficient or viable source of income for me. I was thinking of making each part pretty cheap if I do release it. It's more about having some sort of buffer - I'm happy continuing to invest in projects like these but if nobody donates or does anything in return I'm gonna be at 10 grand by the time I do my next few ideas after this.

Some of those ideas include an RPG with an ATB side-view system involving charm/hypno spells, and enemies that do sexual things to your team. Also I have this dream of a Final Fantasy Tactics-style game where you control a team of monstergirls that you dress up, train, and customize with various equipment, hypno, and charm spells. Then you'd be able to hypnotize and capture good girls that you fight.

These are pretty ambitious and it boils down to gauging interest. I don't want to alienate the community since that's what this is about in the end, at the same time I need to be realistic about how it is possible to make these things happen and over the past 6 years I realized that I don't want to spend the rest of my life waiting for a game to be made that will probably never happen.

I am confused, rb9. What do you mean by "donate?" If you mean buying the game, I can tell you that with as epic as you are making this game sound, I am going to buy it ASAP. If you release the demo and the full version simultaneously, I will probably just throw my money at you and say, "Screw the demo! Give me the full version NAO!"

Well if people donated to this project there would be no need to release it for money. I only care about making back the money I put in, I don't even mind the hundreds of hours.

But I want to release this in parts, this means more content for you and less time waiting between releases. And it's more of an incentive for me if the milestones are smaller :).

I actually like the idea of buying the game in parts more than donating. I am afraid that I will donate towards the game being made, and then you never complete the game because not enough people donated. That means my money would be wasted.

Also, I like the idea of an RPG with an ATB side-view system involving charm/hypno spells, and enemies that do sexual things to your team. Although, I don't know what an ATB side-view system is. (I don't play RPGs except for the fetish ones.)

I'd be willing to donate. It just depends how much. Have you considered throwing up a kickstarter for this.

>>26217
>Although, I don't know what an ATB side-view system is.
Active Time Battle. It means that time moves normally during battle, so enemies can attack even while you're selecting your attacks; as opposed to a turn-based battle system, where time stands still until you've given your commands. Most (if not all) traditional Final Fantasy games use an ATB system.

And, of course, "side-view" just means that the characters are shown from the side (enemies on the left, player's party on the right, usually).

>>26213
I would love you forever if you did the Final Fantasy Tactics style game...I love those games and it sounds like an amazing concept...so anyways...

Then I guess I can make it a point to do the FFT style game after this. That's my dream project, even moreso than this one.

Kickstarter is out because this is adult, unfortunately...

I just noticed it says "voice acting by RB9". Was I wrong to assume RB9 is a man? If I wasn't, how does that work if the focus is on women seducing women

>>26260
I think it'd be more apt to say RB9 is the Voice Acting Director

>>26261
oh ok that makes more sense

Where does it say voice acting by RB9?

And yes I am a woman, LOL.

Hey, I'm really into Vore, and I think it would be awesome if one of the girls was part spider (Bottom half spider, top half woman) Hypnosis could be involved, but being seduced and devoured by a spider-woman would be awesome. Please and thank you!
I'm really excited for the demo, good luck, can't wait to see it!
(If you need a little more clarification on what I mean there is a really good erotic story with a spider girl as the focus it's on swords and cups http://4ofswords.com/fiction/vore/spider-woman-1/ )

>>26324
>And yes I am a woman, LOL.

>>26324
O.o
Well shit... I never would have guessed...

>>26324

My mind has been blown...

I never knew. >.>

There is a spidergirl. Not bottom half spider but she does have a bunch of spider legs growing out of her back.
And yes, it will involve cocooning.
In fact there is a cocooning-type thing that will happen in the demo. It's already all programmed and it's my favorite part.

>>26324
says "Featuring voice acting, conept & writing: RB9"

And one thing that made me think you were a guy is the section on your Collective album called "my girlfriend's manips"... of course now I realize there's no logical connection there

oh, also if someone could mirror the download of the latest MGQ version that would be awesome... it was on Megaupload and I don't have it anymore

>>26361
Been meaning to address that for the last 2 days. I'm pretty sure this is the one, basically it's the crypt area if I remember correctly(go to the cross then go up).
http://www.mediafire.com/?oqwkckbu8wt6rrr

Note that there is a problem in the mountain pass that concerns rocks due to the crypt making them unpassable, so you need to get the old version and get through that part, but can switch back right after. Anyone with further question should consult the forum.
http://mgq.lefora.com/

That's two lines ^^

Featuring Voice Acting

Concept & Writing

So glad to hear it, I'll definitely try it out, I'm so excited!

bump...

>>26606
no don't, you'll get people excited that maybe there's an update!

but if it's necessary to keep it from falling off the board...

>>26632
However if you keep bumping to much the thread will begin to auto-sage. Always the double-edged sword to think of when bumping any thread.

...sorry btw

>>26366
Thanks for the upload and telling us.
I enjoyed the new version very much, the new are is great and it's awesome how rb9 fleshed out lots of the old less interesting bad endings ;).

Can't wait for the demo of the new project...

Any updates?

>>27059
Yeah. Any updates?

Hit a few snags, but rest assured it's underway.

>>27379
sorry I haven't been around. Midterms tuesday along with broken glasses have me out of action for the moment x_x.

Just a little update. Things are still underway. In the meantime, I have actually made a new game that is a side-story off Monstergirl Quest. It's called Vampiregirl Quest and features the whole cast (Jessica, Rydia, Rosa, and Rena) of MGQ on a side-adventure. It's an exclusive for Vampyou.com that I've been working on secretly for the past six months or so. I made it in the same spirit as MGQ so almost all aspects are similar (this was beore my recent RMXP jump on Black Rose). As you can tell by the attached art, Chaoscroc hopped on to do 15 pinups for it. It's $10 for a month's membership at Vampyou but there's an enormous amount of content. Vampire, corruption, girl/girl, and a nice amount of hypno too [Note- I don't get any commissions for you joining]

Just thought I'd put that out there if anybody wants to be tied over!

Thanks RB! An amazing game you've made in VGQ!

VGQ will be going up shortly on VY, and as RB stated it is a free gift for Premium Members to download!

I hope to see you there as VGQ launches, keep your eyes on the front page in the next few days for release!

>>27654
Balls. Now I'm going to need $10 to get something I want off a site I'd never visited before. >.>

lol

VY isn't a hypno site per se but there's stuff on there for everybody. Fanart too. Big emphasis on TF. I like a lot of the content there and you know my tastes.

>>27654
Man, you must've been seriously busy the past while. VampQuest, BlackRose, and your own corruption fetish site? You doing okay? Don't want you stressing yourself too much.

I'll join up on VampYou when someone tells me the moment VGQ is up on it. :P

Same here.

It's been a lot of time, a lot of money. But I want to make good, professional-quality things happen for the community rather than waiting for sparse content that only tangentially hits our fetishes :)
And possibly do it without having to move onto the street!

VGQ is up for premium members on VampYou. Thank you so much RB9 for the amazing work!

Phew. One less project to worry about, now I can focus a bit more on this again!

>>27887
Alright. $10 is at the ready...

balls. The site takes Paypal only for the premium? Guess I have to wait a little longer before I can actually get the premium account. >.o;

Anyone care to weigh in with a review of VGQ?

I think it all depends on whether or not you like vampires. If you do, play VGQ NOW! If you don't care for vampires, than just save your money.

>>28789
This. And thanks for the kind words :).

If you guys have honest feedback and critiques of VGQ I am happy to hear them. It'll help make BR better - and do know that while VGQ was made in the model of MGQ, BR (this game) is a whole new deal.

I made this game because there are many aspects of the vampire fandom that overlap with hypno and corruption. The theme is definitely vampire - it's one thing I've always found hot but it's worth noting that maybe not every member on this board is going to find that appealing. That isn't saying that people outside the audience of VY couldn't enjoy the game, I just think the enjoyment will be much more peripheral.

Any updates on this? I've still got my money set aside in order to buy it as soon as its done and made available.

I was wondering the same. Any updates yet?

Any updates?

any plans to finally move this to /dev/ where it belongs?

The demo should be out soon - but I can guarantee you that you'll like what you see and the wait will be worth it!

Nice.

Any update on this?

Wouldn't be a little ironic if we waited until after this game was out to move it to /dev/?
People have already seen it now and when it's there they'll still see it. So let's move it already.