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No Koreans Allowed

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A Japanese TV program visits the island of Tsushima to investigate the frictions between Korean tourists and locals. At one restaurant, they found a sign banning the entry of Korean customers. Here’s a subtitled video clip of them speaking to the restaurant owner:




The owner was fed up with the “bad manners” of Korean tourists, so he decided to reject everyone from their country.

Afterwards, they visit a restaurant that is happy to welcome Koreans. The owner used to be involved in the fishing industry and would frequently travel to South Korea, so he has some experience with Korean culture. He says that Koreans tend to act the same way at restaurants in their own country, so it’s not like they are deliberately being rude in Japan. Some Japanese without his experiences might not understand the differences in manners and customs between the two countries.

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The next clip shows some behavior that is a deliberately rude

At Tsushima’s Watatsumi shrine, they find a prayer tablet with Korean writing on it. Their interpreter tells them that it contains the message “Tsushima belongs to Korea” alongside a declaration of Korean sovereignty over the Liancourt Rocks.

The issue of Koreans trying to claim Tsushima as their own territory has been mentioned in previous posts about Korean visitors to Tsushima. The South Korean city Masan has passed an ordinance claiming ownership of the Japanese island, and nationalist groups have also held “Tsushima belongs to us” protests on Japanese soil.

Other Japanese news reports have included images of prayer tablets that had their original Japanese messages crossed out and replaced with nationalistic messages from Korean vandals.

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Finally, here’s a clip about Korean garbage that litters the shores of Tsushima and the illegal fishing practices of some Korean tourists:


The marine garbage problem has been getting a lot of Japanese media attention, as Tsushima isn’t the only area being hit by a flood of junk with Korean writing on it. As has been mentioned in previous posts, South Korean volunteer organizations have been helping clean up the trash on Tsushima’s beaches.

The fishing issue involves the dumping of bait into the water to attract extra fish. To prevent overfishing, there is a law that bans non-citizens from engaging in this practice. Every time the Japanese media sends a camera crew to Tsushima, they seem to have little trouble finding Koreans who are violating this law. Some are unaware of the law, while others knowingly violate it. The South Korean media has even aired TV reports about the illegal fishing and bad manners of Korean tourists who visit Tsushima.

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Over at the Marmot’s Hole, Robert has been posted a video clip of a small group of Japanese welcoming South Korean tourists to Tsushima with cries of “Go back to Korea!”  They use the term “chosenjin” when referring to the Koreans, apparently because it is considered an offensive term in Korea:

The people in the clip are identified as members of the Tokyo citizen’s group Shuken Kaifuku wo Mezasu Kai (The Society to Seek Restoration of Sovereignty), which has also been active in pushing for changes to Japanese history textbooks that “give school children false information.” It would seem that they got so riled up about the actions of certain Korean tourists that they bought plane tickets from Tokyo and flew over for a protest.

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[info]loveandcoffee
2009-09-24 02:24 pm UTC (リンク)
I am against racism, absolutely, but my dislike for rude, ill mannered tourists of every race is enormous. I live in Rome, Italy, which is one of the most touristic cities in the world, and it really hurts me to see foreign tourists misbehaving or going around town half naked (ok, it's hot in Summer, but this is a city, not the beach!) or littering the soil or being messy and noisy in restaurants... I'm not talking about Koreans, but also about other Asian, American and European people - it all boils down to what kind of person the tourist is, not to his nationality - but I must say that the Japanese are the most polite tourists.

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[info]kimivalkyrie
2009-09-24 02:31 pm UTC (リンク)
I agree with this. I dislike rude, ill mannered tourists with a passion; I can completely understand where you're coming from.

But what really got me is the whole disrespect thing on the prayer tablets. It's a place of worship and it means a lot to some people to write on those tablets and to write stuff like just seems completely rude and offensive since imagine how some of those locals must feel if they wrote something like "I wish for my relatives to recover from illness" and then it get crossed out and written with "Tsushima belongs to Korea" :(

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[info]jdoliser
2009-09-28 11:11 am UTC (リンク)
what you guys said are so true, esp the lack of respect.
even though one of the owners mentioned that he didnt care because thats how they behaved back in their country, but isnt it common sense that when you visit a foreign country you respect their culture and customs.

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[info]sbloomcita
2009-09-24 02:59 pm UTC (リンク)
ohhhh! u know I'm studying tourism and we were studying about the consequences about tourism in cities where there is a LOT of tourism like your... and yupe.. it's a BIG deal what u are talking...

tourism is something gives a lot of money to a country... but at the same time gives u problems.. like the one that u are talking about... x__x so I think this a problem everywhere *sighs*

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[info]jia_zhang
2009-09-24 03:01 pm UTC (リンク)
IA. Tourists should show respect for the countries they choose to travel in, and it does depend on the individuals. I have met some horrible tourists from all across the world, and some really great ones. People shouldn't stereotype; that's just unacceptable. Though, I must say as well as the Japanese are really polite as tourists, which is why the culture clash is creating such hostility.

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[info]parksoobyung
2009-09-24 02:24 pm UTC (リンク)
they should all just get along.

although, some of these Koreans
(the perpetrators, I'd like to call them)
should really shape up and be a
good representative of their country.
it's in bad taste to act like that even though
they have a claim on Tsushima.

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[info]crystaltokyo
2009-09-24 02:57 pm UTC (リンク)
I can't really comment on bad tourists because I live in a place with very little tourism, but I can say that sometimes I make an ass of myself as a tourist, but I really don't mean to be.

That said, people seem to be making asses of themselves on both sides on purpose here.

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[info]nudrive
2009-09-24 03:11 pm UTC (リンク)
WTF

I think both sides have to be understanding.

Tourists should be respectful
Residents should be understanding

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[info]poleenc
2009-09-24 03:16 pm UTC (リンク)
Ok, first off, I am a bit dissatisfied with the protest in the last video. I get that they're protesting about the actions of certain Korean tourists on the island but is that the place where people arrive? Not all Koreans/tourists are ill-mannered and protesting for hella long period constantly telling you to "GO AWAY/GO HOME" isn't exactly the best way to urge tourists to behave well. (Forreal, I think it'd piss them off even more) Although it does bring a lot of attention and informs those who don't know anything about this matter.

The prayer tablets, are so uncalled for. That's just plain rude and immature. It shouldn't be something anyone should do anywhere on the world.

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[info]niara_honey
2009-09-24 04:21 pm UTC (リンク)
I love how it's always a handful of ppl (the rude koreans/vandalizers) that ruin EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE ELSE. =_=;

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[info]itsonehotmess
2009-09-24 11:46 pm UTC (リンク)
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

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[info]niara_honey
2009-09-25 12:35 am UTC (リンク)
IKR!?
IF PPL WANNA BE BAD, GO BE BAD TOWARDS SOMETHING NO ONE CARES ABOUT. =_= JERKS.

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[info]itsonehotmess
2009-09-25 01:11 am UTC (リンク)
YEAH, LIKE TO EACH OTHER!! UGH, WAY TO KILL IT FOR EVERYONE, LOSERS.

I vote we exile them to like, Antarctica and let them ice-pick each other to death or sth.

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[info]niara_honey
2009-09-25 01:17 am UTC (リンク)
I vote the same. I don't hear anyone opposing. 2 to 0. Time to let them know they've been exiled to Antarctica. They can go vandalize all the icebergs they want.

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[info]itsonehotmess
2009-09-25 01:24 am UTC (リンク)
*high fives* YES. Vandals are henceforth ejected from society!!

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[info]arsinoi
2009-09-24 05:18 pm UTC (リンク)
I understand the locals' viewpoint as I myself live in one of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, Greece & we have had our share of ill-mannered tourists who cause trouble for everyone, even other tourists. It's one of the ugly sides of tourism. Plus I know how tentative the Japan-Korea relationships are especially when it comes to the claiming of islands like Tsushima. I remember when I was in Osaka I came across a protest rally for the Liancourt Rocks (Takeshima). I asked a local about it & he seemed really fired up. It's a sensitive matter to touch upon it seems...

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[info]_kataomoi_
2009-09-24 05:42 pm UTC (リンク)
Give Tsushima to Britain and be done with it.
It may be old fashioned, but claiming it as a colony will make Koreans and Japanese come together in all of their noise, lol.

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[info]lesth
2009-09-25 11:08 am UTC (リンク)

[info]nameni
2009-09-24 06:46 pm UTC (リンク)
Actually there has been a similar problem here, in my city, but with... English people. Over the past few years many english people, particulary guys have been coming here to spend the last few days of being single. No one would have a problem with that if they didn't act as they do. They're usually really drunk, being all noisy (don't get me wrong, the city is mainly tourist and student centered so of course we have many noisy people, imagine how must they act if they even got noticed) and well.. dressing up let's say? (let me share some pics http://cwiczeniazpatrzenia.blox.pl/resource/angole8male.jpg, http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00060/DSC_5419_60989l.jpg). It resulted in a similar situation - many clubs in the center of my town have left a sign at the front entrance "No English People". The funny thing is that the person who started putting the signs was an english club owner, so you can't really call this racism ^^

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[info]butterfly_lovex
2009-09-24 08:17 pm UTC (リンク)
I'm from New York so I can understand the rude tourist issue (people think we aren't nice but actually the tourists can be really terrible )
and the prayer tablet thing was really really rude so the Japanese have a point but they aren't always the greatest hosts to non rude innocent tourists either.

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[info]lunacchi
2009-09-24 08:32 pm UTC (リンク)
as a korean-canadian, i am appalled!
last clip was rather hilarious though.
i know it's a serious discrimination, but trying that hard...
which isn't obviously working lol
and the word "josenjin" makes me laugh.
i think they lack hatred.. they don't sound fierce enough.

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[info]lydzi
2009-09-24 08:59 pm UTC (リンク)
Ok this is... I don't know what's worse, the comments or the vid.

I don't care about the rudeness ok. Yes it's something I dislike utterly and believe me I know how tourists can act since I live in Paris but nothing, NOTHING can ever make a panel with " no random nationality allowed" understable.

This is not acceptable no matter how much panels have been written on.

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[info]sorenemrys
2009-09-24 10:45 pm UTC (リンク)
i agree 100%, i really really hate all racism. it's disgusting.

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[info]soycream
2009-09-25 03:05 am UTC (リンク)
I agree completely.

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[info]luster
2009-09-24 09:50 pm UTC (リンク)
if they have issues with each other they should solve it but racism is not the solution for anything.

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[info]anyappellation
2009-09-24 11:34 pm UTC (リンク)
I find this really unsurprising. Japan-Korea relations have been worse, I'm sure. I wouldn't expect anything else honestly. As a Japanese American, I've experienced racism from Koreans. But I'm not one to make a big deal about it, and mostly, Koreans are quite awesome. lol. Anyway, I mean, both Japan and Korea seem to be nations that encourage nationalistic pride (in my experiences), so I think that there's really no realistic way to get around the racism. Do I think it's inappropriate behavior by both sides? Yes. I don't approve of racism, I just don't see any real solution for it at the moment.

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[info]aammmyyy
2009-09-25 12:41 am UTC (リンク)
I am Korean American and I totally get what you mean by saying 'nationalistic pride'.
The ethnocentric pride that these two countries display... it's actually pretty scary. I know Korea-Japan relations are still sensitive, but both sides honestly need to stop being so butthurt and get over it. They've both been wrong. (And it's not even the entire populations that still mind.)
I've seen some disgusting attitudes displayed by Koreans towards the Japanese (and vice versa) and it just makes me irritated.

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[info]aggar
2009-09-24 11:53 pm UTC (リンク)
when will this stop?

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[info]iheartdarkblue
2009-09-25 12:25 am UTC (リンク)
WTF @ the trash. I saw a documentary on this, and sure there is korean trash in japan but there is also JAPANESE TRASH ON KOREAN BEACHES TOO! Stupid one-sidedness.

This is just fucked up.

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[info]veryberrymary
2009-09-25 12:32 am UTC (リンク)
Having had met a lot of bad tourists in my lifetime so far, I can understand their anger toward them. But that doesn't justify banning them from an establishment without even have met them before. The prayer tablets thing really got to me. That was a really douche thing to do. It's a fucking place of worship, not somewhere to put your politic opinions for all to see. Like my dad says, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But that doesn't mean we want to see them."

Both sides are being quite rude about this, but I think Japanese are getting more of the grief since it's their territory. :P

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[info]okitasan
2009-09-25 02:26 am UTC (リンク)
Japanese people are stupid. Korean people are stupid. People are stupid.

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[info]eyeslikefirefly
2009-09-25 03:21 am UTC (リンク)
I just want to put out there- when visiting a foreign country it's ALWAYS good to look up information on that country. Whenever I'm planning to visit a foreign country I always look up the manners and etiquette that are practiced in that country and try to remember them. It's also just takes a little bit of common sense- just because you do something in your home country, it doesn't make it acceptable everywhere else.

This seems like a case of some Koreans not bothering to respect customs outside their own country (or not caring enough to look them up) and Japanese people not bothering to try to understand where the Koreans are coming from (but I can definitely see why they're upset).

The ways both sides are protesting are really not ways to solve the issues though, it's more likely to make people more upset and cause them to act out instead of making them see the error of their ways. -_-;

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[info]din_84
2009-09-25 04:02 am UTC (リンク)
I'm a German living in Japan, visiting a language school were the majority consists of Chinese and Korean students and I have to say I'm so incredibly fed up with the problems Korea and Japan have which each other.
There is so much blockheadedness on both sides that it wants you make to through up your hands in frustration.

Also, remember folks, there are also still many restaurants in Japan who don't allow any foreigners and say so on signs at the entrance.

This is because Japan has no law against discrimination.

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[info]meliffic
2009-09-25 08:51 am UTC (リンク)
This is because Japan has no law against discrimination.

Rly? How disturbing.

So now I know why some Japanese in Japan would discriminate Filipinos.

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[info]din_84
2009-09-25 12:38 pm UTC (リンク)
First reply went to the wrong reply box *fails*

Anyways, yes this would be the case.
It can be quite disturbing at first but you eventually get used to it because the majority of the people are thankfully friendly, welcoming and don't discriminate someone because of their race/country.

But there are assholes everywhere.

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[info]ninja_tech
2009-09-25 09:10 am UTC (リンク)
I have only lived in Japan for a short time and already I am unsurprised by the protests at the airport or the one-sided trash video.

Everything is propaganda. The Japanese pollute their own beaches, too. And I've lost count of the number of times I've seen or heard discriminatory propaganda against foreigners (of all types).

The only way to not feel completely hopeless about the situation is to remember that people are the same everywhere - every country has its fair share of haters, but most people want to live peacefully.

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[info]kozumifan
2009-09-25 01:29 pm UTC (リンク)
I think Korean visitors should be more respectful. their giving their country a bad image >=O

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[info]peniko
2009-09-25 09:33 pm UTC (リンク)
it makes me wonde who stared making trouble :|

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