About that Steve Jobs misquote
There is a difference between "quite small" and "quite smooth"
Click to enlarge. Source: Apple Inc.
My colleague Seth Weintraub hit a nerve -- and stirred a fierce debate -- Thursday with a post entitled Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth, in which he called Apple's (AAPL) CEO to task for what Weintraub saw as three deliberate distortions in Jobs' iPad 2 keynote:
- Claiming that the iPad 2 is the first dual-core tablet to ship in volume
- Claiming that the original iPad has a greater-than 90% market share
- Misquoting a Samsung vice president about sales of the Galaxy Tab
Now, reasonable men and women can disagree about what constitutes shipping "in volume" or whether the Amazon (AMZN) Kindle and Barnes & Noble's (BKS) Nook should be considered part of the tablet computer market.
But a quote's a quote, and as it happens this one was recorded. So let's listen to it here and take a look at what it means.
First, some context.
A couple months after the Sept. 2 release of Samsung's Galaxy Tab -- the 7-inch Google (GOOG) Android-based tablet that was its initial answer to the iPad -- the company began to issue glowing sales numbers. In December it announced that it had sold 1 million Tabs, declaring sales to be "better than expected." In early January it announced total sales of 2 million Tabs. Based on those numbers, according to one research firm, Samsung had managed to grab 22% of the tablet market.
But during the company's Jan. 28 earnings call with analysts, a Samsung vice president named Lee Young-hee was asked whether those 2 million Tabs were shipped to retailers or sold to customers. Were they, to use her jargon, "sell-in" or "sell-out"?
The following Monday, the Wall Street Journal, relying on a third-party's transcript of Lee's remarks -- which they had obtained from Samsung -- ran the quote Steve Jobs used this week, in which Lee seemed to be admitting that although Samsung had shipped a ton of Tabs, actual sales were "quite small." It was a killer quote that was widely reported -- including by us.
But the transcript was wrong.
Later that Monday, Samsung put Lee's recorded answer on YouTube and the Journal was forced to issue a correction. English is clearly not Lee's first language, and the words she did use -- "quite smooth" -- don't make a lot of sense. But anybody who listened to the recording -- and in the aftermath of the Journal's retraction, more than 10,000 people did -- knows that she did not say "quite small."
So how big a deal is it that Jobs tried to belittle and embarrass a competitor with a quote that had been, as Weintraub put it, "thoroughly debunked"?
Well, it's not good. If he did it deliberately, it's very bad form. If it was an error that somehow slipped through his fact-checkers, he's probably not too happy about it right now. Asked how it happened, Apple PR issued a no comment.
On the other hand, if you read the entire text of Lee's answer, it's clear that there was something wrong with those initial sales numbers:
"Well, your question was on sell-in and sell-out," Lee began. "As you heard, our sell-in was quite aggressive and this first quarterly result was quite, you know, fourth-quarter unit was around two million. Then in terms of sell-out, we also believe that was quite smooth. We believe as the introduction of new device, it was required to have consumers to understand this new device, so therefore even though sell-out wasn't that, you know, fast as we expected, we still believe sell-out was quite okay."
Bottom line: Samsung was disappointed.
Jobs was wrong to misquote Samsung's vice president, and to milk it for the laughs he got. But his remark afterward -- "So a lot of these [Galaxy Tabs] were probably on the shelf by the end of the year" -- wasn't that far off the mark.
Also on Fortune.com:
- Steve Jobs' post-PC credo
- Apple's 'Speeds and Feeds' is a preemptive strike
- Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth
[Follow Philip Elmer-DeWitt on Twitter @philiped]
"ex ped: Actually, my first language was French"
Really? Fascinating.
Sorry to see you getting slammed so viscously PED. I think the criticism you are receiving is most undeserved.
The short fact is that I-Pads are trashing everything else out there. Steve was just stating a fact. Simple story.
Was your first language REALLY French or are you just messing with us? No mention of France or French on your wiki page !
I can't let it go when typos land in the same sentence with one's commentary on another's command of language. Sorry.
btw - I was pretty surprised to see the Samsung quote in the presentation. Especially since it slammed a key supplier.
Please read my comment below first and then view this link. I just now came across this Jon Stewart video and it says it all:
I don't take sides in this argument, it is just an observation about how the average person really thinks.
People often hang on thought as proof of what they already believe. An obvious example of that is politics. Neither party is really interested in discovering the truth but instead will look for little tidbits of facts that support what they want to be true. Is the economy getting better and who should get the credit for it? It depends on who you ask.
This paradigm extends to this news story. Is the Galaxy Tab doing well or is it a flop. I'm not sure one person's statement is enough to answer this question but both sides of the argument want to use this one tidbit to prove their case.
It can, and does, get more absurd. Apple's competitors have been hanging on two different tidbits to prove Apple is a bad company. What makes this absurd is when you alien the two tidbits next to each other, they completely cancel each other out, and highlight the irrationality of the situation.
The argument goes like this: Apple did a disservice to its customers to bring out a new iPad less than a year after the first one and leaving all those customers with something inferior and thus they wasted a bunch of money. Then in almost the same breath, the argument continues like this: the new iPad is not all that much of an upgrade from the old one. The screen is the same, there is no SD card slot, and it is probably better to wait until the iPad3.
Well which is it? If it is not that much an improvement then how did the original iPad owners get cheated? Their device is almost as good right? Certainly worth it to be an early adopter right? Or conversely, if you feel the original iPad owners were cheated, then it must mean that the iPad2 is really that much better right? Everyone should get this one now right?
This observation won't make much difference to Apple's competition. It is not about discovering the truth. It is about finding any tidbits you can that support what you want to think. It is playing the game to win at any cost. From corporations to politics it is the same, and truth is the causality. Is this really a surprise to anyone?
Really? Really!
There seems to be a lack of proportion in judging 2 possible presentations of untruthful information. Lying about real sales figures has to be a proportionally far larger misdeed if you believe in the ill-intent of both. (I don't).
@ped
"ex ped: Ask her to listen to it again.
Posted By filecat13, LA, CA: March 5, 2011 3:57 PM"
What you have and listened to is most probably an altered version of the original audio with "smooth" dubbed into it. Give it up you con artists.
WOW! It's a bit rich of Weintraub to call anyone else out on reality distortion fields... he has to be the biggest peddler RDF's of any of them!
PED covers Apple with a degree of balance - but Weintraub covers Google and Android as though they are the Holy Grail - and Apple and Steve Jobs are Satan and the fires of hell...
No wonder I don't read his stuff... Having read the link above at roughlydrafted.com , I think that covers him perfectly well.
Samsung's official denial of its own official statement is a amateurish attempt at damage control. It's laughable, and it opens the door for ridicule. Ms. Lee is a high level executive at a rich multinational corporation, not some poor PR intern who got bushwhacked.
She and Samsung deliberately tried to manipulate perception of the market and obfuscate the truth about market share and sales vis a vis the iPad, then they got caught, blurbed out the truth, then called it back and said "Oh, that's not what we said!" even though they had confirmed it.
Jeez, Phillip, do you have any journalistic instincts at all? Is all it really takes is a PR backtrack from Samsung to convince you?
This story deserves the mockery it gets, and Steve Jobs would be a fool to let it go uncommented. Samsung steps in its own feces and all you can say is Steve shouldn't have pointed at the poop on its shoes?
Get real. Even my Korean girlfriend said "quite small" when I asked her to tell me what Ms. Lee said, and my GF had no idea beforehand there was any controversy about that particular section or any part of the entire response. She just told me what she heard.
ex ped: Ask her to listen to it again.
@Deon,
Unlike ped's entries, weintraub's entries almost always generate very few (or even zero) comments, except when he takes potshots at Apple. No one really cares about what he writes, because it's not very good or insightful. Doesn't that explain it all?
@Sacto Joe, regarding printing of comments, sometimes weird things happen here. My comments on ped entries usually show up regularly and stay; but those on weintraub's entries show up and disappear, or not show up, or show up and stay without rhyme or reason. My conclusion is that neither ped nor weintraub are smart enough to make it happen that way; so I attribute it to just bad software.
If Steve knew of the correction to "quite smooth", he would've tossed that into his slides, and made much fun of it just as well. Samsung would've just been further humiliated; all the better that he didn't mention it.
@ Philip
You did not give Mr jobs the befit of the doubt when you closed with
"Jobs was wrong to misquote Samsung's vice president, and to milk it for the laughs he got. "
Any your college Seth was totally out of his tree.
ex ped: That's not how I closed it.
Yeh! Yeh! Yeh! Maybe Steve was saying something wrong? Who care? Nobody is perfect. @PED How many times did you make a mistake by writing something? Look at youself first.
I see a lot of people using the apple tablet but I have yet to see any using the Samsung or Motorola tablets.
I think this article is being unfair. All Steve Jobs said was that Samsung's tablets were really on the shelves not sold to consumers, which even you admit was not off the mark.
So why this article? A pot shot at Steve Jobs?
Re: PED - "Bottom line: Samsung was disappointed."
Weintraub knows that a sad ass can't make a happy fart. He can't make happy talk about Samsung's dismal xpad sales, so instead he's trying to stink up the room to distract everyone from the truth.
But really, what does he care? Page hits are page hits. Clickbait generates page hits. So he writes clickbait.
Too bad. I used to read Apple 2.0 every day. Now I'll drop by every week to see if there's anything good.
Curious why Apple decided to gun for Samsung, considering it's a major partner and OEM supplier. It's not like the Tab was ever a threat. Motorola was relatively unscathed which is a bit bewildering--considering that Motorola basically trashed Apple in its Superbowl ad.
There's politics involved. Someone at Apple marketing who created the presentation has a vindictive streak against Samsung and is even willing to use erroneous quotes to fulfill that agenda.
Really sloppy, Apple. Just like that pimplely nerd "engineer" who lost the prototype iPhone4 trying to impress chicks in the bar.
Jobs or Cook need to audit their ranks.
PED: "English is clearly not Lee's first language, and the words she did use -- "quite smooth" -- don't make a lot sense."
But English IS your first language - right??
ex ped: Actually, my first language was French, but that's no excuse. Thanks for the catch, Murphy Mac.
This would all be cleared up if someone who is fluent in idiomatic Korean found the original statement and translated it for us.
Anyone? Native speakers?
ex ped: The original statement WAS in English. It wasn't translated.
It's all a question of semantics/antics. On third thought, it's probably just PEDantics.
If Tom says "it was a slow day for sales", and Bob says "Tom said it was a bad day for sales", I am technically correct in saying that "Tom was quoted as saying iit was a bad day for sales". I'm even technically correct in saying "Tom was quoted as saying 'it was a bad day for sales'" [emphasis added, and I don't care where Strunk and White want the quotation marks].
Given the chance at a cheap shot in an extraordinarily hyped-up market, I certainly can't blame Steve Jobs for taking it. I know I would.
@ped
Are you going to undistort the rest of your "colleague's" false statements, like:
Using "shipped" units, not actual sales to consumers, to calculate market share?
Including his Android dumbphone in the "volume" of dual core Android tablets shipped?
How wrong and disproportionate and despicable to use the "Kool-Aid" allusion? How insensitive it is to the victims?
ex ped: Um, no thanks.
PED, once again items I post from my iPhone never get printed. Not sure why that is.
Anyway, the gist of my last unprinted post is that to call Steve Jobs a liar, as Seth Weintraub did in his highly insulting puff-piece, while bad form, is to be expected from the anti-Apple, pro-Google Mr. Weintraub. But to tacitly give support to his diatribe with nothing but the barest of wrist-slaps, as you have done, is to give credence to the Reality Distortion Field Mr. Weintraub himself has been spinning.
Look, I myself missed the correction to the earlier Wall Street story, so it seems perfectly possible to me that Steve Jobs, who has obviously been highly proccupied of late, could also have missed it. At the very least, even if one isn't going to give him the benefit of the doubt, one should at least acknowledge the possibility that he might have missed it. That being the case, the worst that can be said is that he may have been badly served by those who work for him. To your credit, you did acknowledge that possibility. Mr. Weintraub, however, most emphatically did not.
Ergo, Mr. Weintraub is, by definition, a hack, with either a not-so-hidden agenda, a personal axe to grind, or both. I really wish you had colored him thus. To have you sugar-coat his nasty little article, as you have done, is frankly disappointing, even after giving consideration to the probability that he is a colleague of yours who you have to work with on a daily basis.
Weintraub not only proves he's consistently misinformed and has poor judgement, but that he brings nothing of value to the party.
I'd be ashamed to call him a "colleague". Quite sad.
As to his latest rants against Jobs and all that is Apple, if Samsung would simply come clean with actually sales numbers to real end-users, there would be no cause for confusion. Their deception is not fooling anybody. Well, no one outside of the hardcore iHaters like Weintraub.
Apple products are for people who needs to get things done, satisfied, and therefore have the willingness to pay for a price better than any other products.
People who dont use apple products are people who want everything free therefore they are not satisfied. and they feel uncomfortable and unsecure holding xpads when seeing people using ipads in front of them.
"In Volume" means something like 10-50 millions, not 1 or few millions. If we are talking about apple products, forget about few millions units only. Apple fanboy is just the result of happy people using apple products. People become so loyal because they found they are happy and very satisfied using apple products. It is just that simple. Maybe people have try this, use other brand other than apple for a while, change to apple products, then try return to the product before apple, then they will understand.
Sales numbers are difficult to interpret accurately unless the product is moving through to the consumer very quickly. When it comes to smart phones (or tablets on 3G networks) I put more faith in "activations" than sales. Using activations numbers published by AT&T as well as an advertising site I am currently estimating that Verizon has sold well over 2.5 million iPhones and is on track to sell more than 4 million during Q1. I update my estimates regularly at http://seekingalpha.com/user/461771/instablog
Funny how the article here slams Steve Jobs for the Samsung misquote, but concludes his main point was still right.
Well, that was obviously a deliberate slap to the face of Samsung for NOT divulging the TRUE SALES NUMBERS TO CONSUMERS of the Galaxy Tab.
If Samsung came clean on this issue, then we wouldn't have any argument.
I'm the biggest fan of Apple you'll find, and unfotunately... the lunacy in some of the comments here does not surprise me.
If a CEO of a $340 Billion company completely mischaracterizes something a competing executive said, the people here want to just put their fingers in their ears and say "NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA I CAN'T HEAR YOU NA NA NA NA NA NA."
PED was completely even handed in the way he presented both sides of the situation. The rest of you... are lunatics.
Folks, forget about smooth or small, it does not matter.
After seeing iPad 2, Samsung mobile VP Lee Don-Joo has admittedly publicly that "we will have to improve the parts that are inadequate."
Please do not be distracted by a few silly comments.
If Samsung 7-inch Galaxy Tab had been selling into end user hands at a rate of just 5 million units, SELLING not just SHIPPING, the world will sit up and take serious notice. Everyone will be scrambling to sell 7-inchers.
The reality now is nearly everyone is moving to 10-inch or better.
I find it rather ironic that we're having this debate over Steve Jobs's integrity. No one seems to think that there's anything wrong with all these executives using euphemisms like "sell-in", "sell-out", "smooth" etc.; deliberately conflating shipping and sales numbers to mislead and obfuscate investors and consumers; announcing vaporware products that never materialize; releasing half baked products that are missing key promised features (eg Motorola Xoom which can't view its own website); blatantly copying their competitor's innovations because they can't create their own; etc. etc. To me it seems more than clear that, misquote or not, Steve Jobs has more integrity than any executive working for any of his company's competitors.
One, it was NOT "thoroughly debunked". As you know, corrections get far less notice than the original story.
Two, the context of what she said, indicated that sales were clearly not all that. I interpreted smooth as to mean, slowly growing, ie smoothly.
Three, Weintraub's distortions of what Steve said was far worse than anything Steve did. He knows as well as I know all about sell-in, filling the channel the first time is an artificial bump, a distortion. Is Weintraub trying the Dvorak method of driving eyeballs? Being deliberately obtuse for the hits? Well, he's succeeded.
YC in NY-
Android tablets get no traction because it is a multi-headed hydra, fragmented platform. Read for yourself:
http://wereport.com
After reading Weitraub's mentall challenged articles & your defense of same I have only one question.
How come if jobs or Apple make a statement that proves to wide cleverly worded & therefore can be debated as to ABSOLUTE truth, everyone in the media is all over Apple for months & re-quotes the statement, even if it has been corrected, even YEARS later? But if a Google or other fantoid makes statements that are 1/2 truths or worse the media excuses them away as slips of the mentally challenged?
Just makes one wonder is all.
Ayuh
PS "ex ped: A retraction in the Wall Street Journal doesn't count?"
No, it doesn't the WSJ has, like all newsrags, tech bloggers, & "financial journalists" its own agenda---to sell ads & get page views. The above don't care for truth anymore than a used car saleman except for what benefit they can reap from twisting it to their own likes. Any organization that employs the mentally challenged like Brent Arends believes in truth like the Devil believes in communion.
Strange, to me he actually comes across as a "very nice man" in all the many interviews and keynote addresses I've seen him in. Not a very modest man, perhaps, but seriously can you blame him for being justifiably proud of his and his company's remarkable success?
Define Volume at 1Million units / month or even 100K, then Apple will be the first dual core.
the 22% market share number was based on "Sell-in", not what customer bought. There has been no statement about Actual, "in-customers-hands" unit sales from Samsung (Or B&N or Amazon for that matter).
These facts you could correct in your story should you want to. Seems like you have a bone to pick??
As for the Quote. Yep. Smooth, not small. But given the lack of any actual number verse Apple announced number, I have no reason to think their sales were that good.
Philip Elmer-DeWitt, goes the old joke, is driven by animus towards Apple. Read his piece on an empty stomach & you may actually believe him.
@ped
"The answer, posted below in full as reported by the Wall Street Journal, was that Samsung had merely shipped them. Actual sales to paying customers, Lee admitted, were "quite small."(From Android grabs 22% tablet share - not!
Posted by Philip Elmer-DeWitt
January 31, 2011 2:58 PM)
Apparently Steve Jobs "lifted" the quote from the Wall Street Journal, which is much the same as what you admitted to before with one of your headlines. So, what is your and Seth Weintraub's beef? You guys do the same things all of the time. Hypocrites!!! Even though "smooth" instead of "small" MAY have been said, the absolute net result of Galaxy Tab sales was "SMALL". Again, you guys make mountains out of mole hills trying to embarrass Steve Jobs. Shame on both of you and you trying to clean up your colleague Seth Weintraub's mess. In the end Samsung probably edited the audio and inserted the word "smooth". Shame.
Nice clarification.
People just get so emotional about a subject, that they are blinded to all the sides of the matter, including the subtle nuances involved. On the web there is this tendency towards intense flaming because it offers us the opportunity to do so. A journalist must be level-headed and know all the facts; or at least as many as possible. Then the opinion one expresses has more weight and depth. That even applies to bloggers, who have a similar obligation
@PED
quite smooth?
how about the actual sale figure.
Can't say Jobs is wrong because the phase is very ambiguous, if you can furnish the sales figure I am prepared to eat crow otherwise this article is just out for hits.
What in the world does "quite smooth" and "quite okay" mean? It means they were equivocating. To this day, nobody seems to know how many customers bought the product during the time period when they were crowing about having sold 2 million.
And as regards Mr. Weintraub's "lying" accusation, heck, I didn't know about the retraction either. It's not hard to believe that Mr. Jobs was unaware of it as well. The worst you can say for sure is that Mr. Jobs was badly advised.
Mr. Weintraub was way out of line to accuse Mr. Jobs of lying. If you read his whole article you see he clearly had an axe to grind. His article was a hit piece, designed to steal Apple's thunder. In other words, he created a massive "Reality Distortion Field" of his own - and it's still at work.
I must say, though, that I'm a little disappointed to see you, PED, be taken in by it....
It was a mistake for Steve Jobs to have used the quote. More importantly, it was poor form.
Was it an unforgivable gaffe? No. But it was a gaffe nonetheless.
Mr. Jobs is well known for his arrogance. I presume he knew of the misquote and use it to make fun of samsung. Mr. Jobs is great at his role of apple CEO but he is not a very nice man
Did Samsung ever send out a press release that the lady was misquoted?
Did Samsung write to Apple afterwards that Steve Jobs misquoted them?
If no and no, then there is no misquote.
If they really did have a sell-out of 200,000 out of a 2 million sell-in, then a 10% sales would be deemed "quite small", don't you agree?
ex ped: A retraction in the Wall Street Journal doesn't count?
@Steve Ponte
Thank you for posting rebuttal article to Seth the Fandroid blogger's inaccurate, incomplete and incoherent rants.
From the wall street journal now
"Samsung executive Lee Young-hee said Galaxy Tab sales were "quite smooth," according to a recording of the company's conference call with analysts. This post relied on a transcript of the call, which quoted her erroneously as saying they were "quite small." Samsung said the transcript, done by a third party and initially cited by a company spokesman, has since been corrected."
Note. A Samsung spokesman cited the original transcript. You owe mr jobs an apology.
ex ped: You're quoting the same Wall Street Journal article I did, Henry Dogg. It's dated Jan. 31, four weeks before the iPad 2 keynote. I believe I gave Mr. Jobs the benefit of the doubt. It's quite possible that someone at Apple noticed the original piece and missed the correction, in which case it's the fact-checker's error. But it's still an error.
Having studied with a lot of Chinese professors who's native language is Chinese and as they would say, "speak Chinglish," I can tell you she said SMOOTH and it makes perfect sense in the context.
What she is saying is, our sales to suppliers was very aggressive however, actual sales weren't as aggressive as we would have liked but they have been rather consistent/steady (smooth).
As far as Steve Jobs knowing or not. . . I'm sure we all know he knew full well what he was doing--that's just the type of person he is. Hey, look what he did to Woz when he was at Atari. That's just the way Steve is.
What is the point of this article??
I think the author should start writing about substantial topics.
Who cares what Seth " the totally biased Fandroid blogger" thinks or writes. If I remember correctly, he had a post abt how the Galaxy Tab was better than the iPad…you can only ignore him for his rants.
PED, thanks for posting your independent perspective on this issue and for the source audio.
I don't understand why Samsung's PR posted only that part of the response. Why not the Q and full response? Do I smell something? Looks like so…..
Ok. Looking into this further. Most people relied on a transcript which Samsung themselves published and which contained the word Small.
Samsung later corrected this to smooth.
If Steve Jobs quotes based on Samsung's published error then you can only blame Samsung.
Furthermore, even without the word small, it is stlll clear that sales were slower than expected and build was aggressive. So sales were small.
And many of us heard small at the time.
Having listened to this snippet, I think someone is playing games.
Clearly a number of people heard small, including me, originally.
This snippet sounds like smooth, but that doesn't make much sense in terms of what she went on to say.
I'd like to hear the full recording, not via Samsung or google.
Also, if the sales we're small, for the period the earnings call relates to, then why not just publish them.
I'm doubfull of this. I listened at the time and heard small. I also heard disappointing. I suggest you go back to the original recordings rather than the ones that Samsung have posted on you tube.
Actually, you will need to search away from you-tube because I don't think Google have got the idea of video neutrality yet.
@Dewitt & Weintraub
Are you idiots twin brothers are something. Taking Steve Jobs to task for using a widely viewed quote that, from what I can tell is totally true is just another lame attempt to bash Apple and Steve Jobs over something so inconsequential that it borders are childish ignorance. I'm sure you've read AppleInsiders rebuttal to Seth Weintraub tirade but just in case your reader missed it, here's a link.
ex ped: Thanks for the Roughly Drafted pointer, which I've added as a link in my post to "hit a nerve." But Steve, I believe calling people "idiots" has gone out of fashion, at least in the civilized parts of the Internet. The preferred terms these days, according to Wikipedia's euphemism entry, are "mentally challenged", "with an intellectual disability", "learning difficulties" and "special needs."
Oh, please. Steve's quote was dead on.
I saw the same quote. It so happens a day later Samsung had a change of heart and issue a new statement.
It's not Steve Jobs who's misleading the public here- it's those people in the media that fear that Apple's getting too big and too controlling and therefore want to generate the mostly false pretense that Google and others are neck and neck Apple on the tablet front.
Samsung could END all this chatter completely anytime they wanted to, by simply FORMALLY releasing sales OUT to consumer numbers.
The FACT that they are hedging their bets by NOT DOING SO, indicates that they don't have reality on their side here.
Essentially Steve J said the "sales to production ratio" was bad. I believe that was the truth, and Sammy could just fess up to some vetted numbers to prove SJ wrong, if in fact he was.
Why would he care what he says .I think Jobs is pretty comfortable and confident in his remarks. He's on top period!
We all know that the Galaxy Tabs did not sell for a variety of reasons. (Too small, Non-Tablet OS, no Applications, clunky interface, poor tablet platform support etc...)
Steve clearly stated that this crop of 7" tablets would be DOA and sure enough they all were DOA with no exception.
This is not a big deal. Android zealots are trying to make a big deal out of this because no Android tablets is getting any traction. This is not a big deal for Samsung they know that is is true and Samsung make a ton of money selling parts for iDevices. Motorola Mobility however is a different story.
Time will tell.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 has better specs than the iPad2 in just about every respect from surround sound stereo speakers to better cameras to higher resolution and being lighter as well. The only 'spec' the iPad has over the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is 2mm of thickness which 99% of people would not even notice. Much more notable will be watching movies and playing music and video games in mono on the one speaker iPad2...seriously, who wants to do that? The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the best spec'd Honeycomb tablet out there and we're excited to get our hands on one.
http://GalaxyTabForum.com