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    Default Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    By Jim White



    As the diplomatic tussle between the United States and Pakistan over US demands for the release of Raymond Davis continues, it is interesting to note that their are varying reports of what Davis had in his possession (photos here) at the time he was arrested after shooting dead two Pakistanis on the streets of Lahore on January 27. Varying reports mention a GPS tracker, a GPS navigation system or a phone tracker, along with a telescope and digital cameras said to have photos of “sensitive” locations. In a very interesting development, we learn from multiple sources that on Thursday Pakistan successfully test-fired its Hatf VII cruise missile, which it also calls “Babur”. When the Express Tribune first reported that Davis’ victims were from the intelligence community (which ISI has since denied and threatened the paper with legal action), the Washington Post followed up by mentioning that Davis was trailed and confronted because he had “crossed a red line“. Was gathering information on the impending test firing of the Babur missile that red line?
    Pakistan has a history of developing missiles intended to be used with their nuclear weapons. This report (caution, it is old and dates from 1999 and quotes material from the Rumsfeld Commision) is interesting for where it states that M-11 missiles from China were seen:

    Of importance is the fact that the missiles were said to be at an air base west of Lahore. Now for the description of the sensitive photos Davis took

    So, just a few weeks after Davis may have provoked Pakistan intelligence into a confrontation with him, perhaps over sensitive photos he may have been observed taking in the Lahore area, Pakistan test-fires a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead:

    Read more: Was Raymond Davis Spying on Pakistan's Babur Missile? ~ Terminal X http://www.terminalx.org/2011/02/was...#ixzz1DgL5IT4n

    This story goes on to mention that the nuclear-capable Hatf V, with a range of 1300 km was tested in December. And the story points out that most of Pakistan’s missiles “are deployed toward India”, which means that the Lahore area, on the Indian border, is a likely site.

    It will be very interesting to see if the US comments on the test-firing.


    Read more: Was Raymond Davis Spying on Pakistan's Babur Missile? ~ Terminal X http://www.terminalx.org/2011/02/was...#ixzz1DgL5IT4n

    http://www.terminalx.org/2011/02/was...#axzz1DgJYKd3l
    Last edited by sohailbarki; 02-11-2011 at 10:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    Items Recovered From Raymond Davis

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    my question is very simple let suppose that davis did all is in self defence.
    but tell me what is he doing at a very urban place in lahore
    & what is he doing at that place

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    hand him over to Pakistan army.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    hand him over to Pakistan army.
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    Just hand him over to Pakistan Police & give them task, then see.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    Just hand him over to Pakistan Police & give them task, then see.
    Original Post By mughaljee
    Nothing came out except...........A Big Elephant with continuous saying...I am a goat...I am a goat.......

    Are you really want this?

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    What is babur missile ??

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    Lets suppose he was a Spy, and killed ISI agents.
    He is caught and the gadgets seized from him are taken unto custody.

    The question is, from where did he get these?
    Only two possible ways:
    i) Traitors in Army (low chances)
    ii) Smuggled it.

    If he smuggled them in, the question arises how did he manage to do that?
    Were the Airlines he came from a part of this plan?
    If so, we must look at the records, and find what Airlines were used.

    This is a serious case, killing agents for self defence and not to blow your cover.
    Addition to it is being a spy!

    I suggest him taken into ISI custody for further investigations and trace the Airlines he used to smuggle the instruments (or the Cargo).
    If he is able to do it, there are chances many other can do it under our noses!.

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    Hassan.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    if pakistan gives that son of a back to usa..
    bring down your goverment my brothers.
    thats all i got to say.
    hang that american.
    just have some honor and dont put him into jail but get him out of the picture and hang him.
    he took lives of 2 pakistanis.
    and what self defence?
    what do you guys mean?
    and oh my god.. why keeps usa doing these dirty work?

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    if pakistan gives that son of a back to usa..
    bring down your goverment my brothers.
    thats all i got to say.
    hang that american.
    just have some honor and dont put him into jail but get him out of the picture and hang him.
    he took lives of 2 pakistanis.
    and what self defence?
    what do you guys mean?
    and oh my god.. why keeps usa doing these dirty work?
    Original Post By xMustiiej70
    Because they are USA .
    Aur naam hi kaafi hai

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

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    By Rob Crilly, Islamabad 4:54PM GMT 10 Feb 2011

    Sources close to the investigation said Raymond Davis, 36, had made a series of telephone calls to South Waziristan, a tribal area along the border with Afghanistan synonymous with militant activity.

    The mystery surrounding Davis has deepened since he was arrested in Lahore two weeks ago. He has told police officers he shot dead two men in self defence.

    The US insists he is a diplomat based at the embassy in Islamabad and should be granted immunity.

    However, security sources have leaked a series of details suggesting that he may have had a clandestine role.

    "His phone records clearly show he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, for what reason we can only speculate," said a police officer, referring to a terrorist group with close links to the Pakistani Taliban.


    Hamid Gul, a former head of Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate, said the phone calls suggested he was a secret agent.

    "This is a classic intelligence technique – to get inside the head of the enemy," he said.

    Davis, who is due to appear in court on Friday, is a former special forces soldier who left the US army in 2003 after 10 years of service, according to Pentagon records.

    Mobile phone footage obtained by the Dunya TV channel shows him pleading for the return of his passport shortly after his arrest.

    "I need to tell the embassy where I am at," he said, during a confused interrogation as police officers interrupt and laugh in the background.

    He went on to tell them that he was working at the US consulate in Lahore "I just work as a consultant there, with the [Regional Affairs Office]," he said.

    His arrest is deeply embarrassing to the governments of both Pakistan and the US, which has suspended some high-level talks in order to increase pressure on Islamabad.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    Just hand him over to Pakistan Police & give them task, then see.
    Original Post By mughaljee
    Let me say,
    Our Police has a instrument for criminals like RD, where written "AJA MERE BALMA TERA INTIZAR HEY" within 5 min he will straight to explain where, why & when.

    There is no doubt that he is spy.

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    Default Re: Was Raymond Davis Spying On Pakistan's Babur Missile?

    There is no doubt that he is spy.
    On the contrary he is not a spy. Professional spies don't do stupid things which could caught the attention of the Security forces. He was carrying arms when all foreign diplomats in Pak are not allowed to carry their arms outside the premises of their embassy. Moreover he panicked and let the situation determine his actions. Professional spies know how to handle tricky situation and to be able to maintain calm in the most dangerous of the situations. In other words they control the situation with their actions. He was maybe just a defense contractor to protect the US embassy staff who overreacted in tense situation and made the situation even worse.

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    Just hand him over to Pakistan Police & give them task, then see.
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    They should charge him with both Espionage and Murder. If they let him go I'm just going to renounce my Pakistaniyat.

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