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How Many People Are in Tahrir Square? Here’s How to Tell [Updated]

  • By Noah Shachtman Email Author
  • February 1, 2011  | 
  • 1:02 pm  | 
  • Categories: Info War

Tens of thousands of people gathered today in Cairo’s Tahrir Square. Or maybe it was a hundred thousand. Or could’ve been up to two million. Except, by some counts, the Square can’t hold more than 225,000.

Every time a ton of people gather in one place, there are all sorts of pronouncements made about how many folks really showed. The figures rarely agree; Glenn Beck’s rally on the National Mall this summer attracted a million people, according to Beck cohort Rep. Michelle Bachman. CBS News pegged it at more like 87,000.

There is something of a science, however, to sorting out crowd sizes. Here’s how it works.

Step one: Get an eye in the sky. High-quality overhead imagery can give a pretty accurate sense of how many people are in a given spot below. For the 2009 inauguration, dueling estimators used everything from aerostats to satellites to snap shots of the masses.

Step two: Take a sample. Focus in on one small part of the crowd, and get a sense of its density. University of Illinois crowd-guru Clark McPhail figures a person can comfortably stand in five square feet. In tightly-packed situations, each person can squeeze into two-and-a-half square feet. Much more than that, and it’s The Who at Cincinnati, 1979.

Step three: Measure the space. Get a sense of the square footage where the gathering is taking place. Tahrir Square is about 490,000 square feet, according to the private intelligence firm STRATFOR. At two-and-a-half-square feet per person — “comparable to the crowd density of a packed subway car” — even 200,000 activists would be pushing it. That figure sounds about right. Maybe there’s a million people protesting in Cairo. But no way could they fit into that single spot.

This three-part method was first employed by a University of California at Berkeley journalism professor in the 1960s, who wanted to know how many anti-war protesters were outside his office. But despite advances in overhead imagery and statistical modeling, the seemingly-straightforward analytic exercise gets constantly mired in controversy.

The National Park Service, for example, used to be the go-to agency for official crowd estimates. Then it pronounced that only 400,000 people showed up to Louis Farrakhan’s “Million Man March.” Farrakhan threatened to sue. And the park service got out of the crowd-guessing game.

For President Obama’s 2009 inaugural, the service relied on the Washington Post’s figure of 1.8 million people. Competing estimates ranged from 800,000 to 1.271 million to “as many as two million.”

Al Jazeera, the most influential news outlet covering the uprising, has revised its original protester count, from two million protesters in the protest epicenter to two million protesters in all of Cairo. But a strict count at a demonstration can be less influential than what networks broadcast. And with Al Jazeera keeping a densely packed Tahrir Square on people’s TV screens, it gives the impression that all of Egypt is calling for Hosni Mubarak’s head.

Update 5:10 pm: Dr. Clark McPhail, one of the godfathers of crowd-sizing science, e-mails in with his estimate:

I used Google Earth to access Tahrir Square in Cairo and the Google Earth Ruler to take some dimensions of the carrying capacity of the “square” as well as what appear to be accesible spaces surrounding it on three sides.

It is actually not square but a greenspace within a traffic circle. Assuming no traffic and that all lanes of the roadway that encompass Tahrir Square are included in the carrying capacity of that part of the venue, my calculations rounded off yield 84,000 square feet. At 5 sq. ft. per person this space could carry 16,876 people. When one looks at the photo, one could conceivable say the density is closer to 2.5 sq. ft. per person. The overhead vantage point of the photo is a useful one. That would yield 33,752 people.

My suspicion is that the gathering spreads out into the surrounding spaces that appear on the Google Earth map. There is a triangular space at the top of the Google Earth image of Tahrir Square as well as into the two polygons below the “square.” The latter are not perfect rectangles but multisided polygons. I did not take precise measures but used to ruler to produce dimensions of the triangle above the “square” and of crude rectangles approximating those polygons below the “square.” If anything this omits some accessible space. The “triangle” would accomodate 14,000 people at 5.0 sq ft, 28,000 at 2.5 sq. ft. The two “rectangles” would accomodate 21,000 at 5.0sq ft (42,000 at 2.5 sq. ft.) and 24,000 at 5.0 sq, ft, (48,000 at 2.5 sq. ft).

Combined the carrying capacity of those four spaces is roughly 380,457 sq. ft. This could accomodate 76,091 people at 5.0 sq ft per persons or 150,183 people at 2.5 sq. ft.

These are crude numbers but I would venture an estimate of 200,000 max for those four contiguous spaces. There are of course several streets that feed into the “square” and the possiblility of another 50,000 or so in those feeder spaces abutting the “square.” I can’t see how 1,000,000 people could fit into this venue.

Photo: AP/Tara Todras-Whitehill

See Also:

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  • Anonymous

    Having seen first hand what millions of people means in Mecca, I can tell you the gathering today was well beyond 1 million. You need not forget the streets leading to Tahrir, and the neighborhoods around it when calculating the space.

  • Anonymous

    “And with Al Jazeera keeping a densely packed Tahrir Square on people’s TV screens, it gives the impression that all of Egypt is calling for Hosni Mubarak’s head.”

    Just more editorial from an organization that likes to change the facts to get thier vision of the future here, mmmmmm, sort of like CNN, NBC, FOX.

    Just not Danger Room

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OIWAVGL26LRRN6QHB5D2G4JCKI Ancient Philosopher

    try as you may but those people are creating history and they don’t give a damn ’bout what you think…

  • http://www.facebook.com/brianfejer Brian Fejer

    So why is Al Jazeera English banned in the USA, Egypt, and Tunisa? Land of the free, home of the brave??

  • Anonymous

    Let’s learn how to spell Cincinnati correctly.

  • http://twitter.com/GouthDark Mike O

    what are you talking about? Just because TV providers don’t carry it, doesn’t mean it’s banned.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/

  • Anonymous

    It is available on a few cable TV networks in the country, not many care to watch it. NOT BANNED, ignored

  • Anonymous

    It is available on a few cable TV networks in the country, not many care to watch it. NOT BANNED, ignored

  • Anonymous

    I’m in the US and read it daily…what are you talking about?

  • Anonymous

    The reality is that maybe 200,000 people are protesting. Out of a densely populated country of 100 million. That is .2% of the population. Just because those people are screaming doesn’t mean they want democracy. In fact, you need to be very concerned that with all of the talk about Mubarek resigning that this doesn’t become the proverbial ‘be careful what you wish for’. The Muslim Brotherhood is a very dangerous organization, they and al-Jazeera do not have the best interests of the Egyptian people.

  • Anonymous

    my post 2 hours in danger room blog “Mullen to Egypt’s Army: Way To Not Kill Protesters!”

    “The reports i have read say that there are 250,000 protestors, for a population of 83,000,000, 83 million, that is just a tiny pittance of a showing.

    Cairo has a population of 17,000,000, 17 million, where do the other 16.75 million people in Cairo stand?????”

    You are preaching to the choir, heh heh heh

  • Anonymous

    If there is one thing Egyptians are extremely good at doing it’s stuffing huge numbers of people into small spaces.

    I lived in Cairo for two years in the 90s. I was student at the American University in Cairo, which used to be located right on Tahrir Square (it has since moved out to the ‘burbs). There are some neighborhoods in Cairo that rank among the most densely inhabited in the world. It was very weird to come back to the States and have the sensation that even a major US city at peak rush hour feels deserted in comparison. I would certainly err on the low side for minimum amount of space an Egyptian would tolerate in a crowd. I also second the observation that there are several large avenues leading into the square (actually a giant traffic round-about) that can hold a lot of people by themselves.

    The size of that crowd must be really freaking out the government because even after the mugamma closed (it was frequently cited as the world’s single most immense/frustrating bureaucratic building) there are still several major government edifices in that area; it’s also not far from both the US and British embassies, which are potential flash points in a protest.

    I just hope the military keeps its promise to not open fire. If that crowd panicked in the face of heavy caliber weapons thousands would be crushed to death as people surged in fear.

    I salute those Egyptians who are taking the risk to turn out in the streets and who have so far done so with minimal violence. I really hope they succeed.

  • Anonymous

    Al Jazeera Cable News is on and available on my Television . — it’s not banned at all.
    You have no idea what you are talking about ..

  • Anonymous

    Wow! You have NO idea about Egyptian politics. The MB is a minority group and has evolved into a moderate, pro-democracy movement. They don’t seek to establish a religious state, nor do they seek to break any existing treaties or become anti-American. These are all statements out of the MB’s own mouthes over the past week. Stop insulting us by regurgitating the propaganda that Mubarak and his ilk have spread in order to remain in power.

  • Anonymous

    Oh… and Egypt has a population less than 80 million. More evidence that you haven’t a clue of what you speak.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6FWKXWB6STO4HHGT6TDNZOZJA sarah88

    Why do you look at a scientific, non-political investigation of how many people are in the square as an attack on their cause? No one’s saying they’re not creating history. This is about science and facts.

  • http://twitter.com/angelbw Seth Mariscal

    This article is not debunking in any way, shape or form the fact that this is happening. This is one of those really interesting articles analyzing the science behind the estimations of crowd sizes. If you have a bone to pick about a flaw in the exercise then please, by all means, jump in.

  • http://twitter.com/m_yanagisawa M. Yanagisawa

    Maybe it’s the same way to count wild birds,isn’t it?

  • http://twitter.com/rack88 Rick Hanton

    What about the bridges? Al Jazeera was talking about protesters down multiple bridges into the square area.

  • abulinix

    According to Fox News there are currently an astounding 847 million Egyptians in Tahrir square. Glenn Beck will be going up to speak any minute.

  • Anonymous

    Bah, it’s about time someone gathered crowds with known numbers of people: 1,00, 5,000, 10,000, etc. Then we would have a good calibration for future photos.

  • Anonymous

    “Farrakhan threatened to sue” which was a really stupid thing to do. I lost much respect for him.

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