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Old December 13, 2010, 08:08 PM / Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #1
 
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He was in critical condition and it seems he didnt make it
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Old December 13, 2010, 08:22 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #2
 
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I wonder who will replace him? since Afghanistan and Pakistan is a crucial theatre for US interests.
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Old December 14, 2010, 01:31 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #3
 
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Old December 14, 2010, 03:05 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #4
 
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War criminal. I hope now in death you can see what wretched things you did in life. May God rest your soul. Pray for me that I don't smirk too hard over this. I shouldn't. But I do.
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Old December 14, 2010, 03:44 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #5
 
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War criminal. I hope now in death you can see what wretched things you did in life. May God rest your soul. Pray for me that I don't smirk too hard over this. I shouldn't. But I do.
Wow..... just wow.
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Old December 14, 2010, 04:16 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #6
 
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Wow..... just wow.
One of the most responsible for illegal aggression against Serbia in 1999, which killed thousands, send misery to millions and left chronic instability and mafia controlled black whole state of Kosovo in region and in Europe. Sole responsible to his famous so called "bulldogger stile” diplomacy against Serbia.

After famous taking off his shoes in friendly chat in house with leaders of KLA, that organization transferred at US government lists, from one of the most dangerous terrorist and drug smuggling organization in the world to “freedom fighters”. In this Sunday elections KLA leader Hasim Tachi (nick name "Snake" because he poisoned his rivals in the criminal underground. He is also well-known drug trafficker and convicted arms dealer and counterfeit money manufacturer. His rap sheet includes numerous arrests, indictments and convictions. At it now, he is US's greatest ally) won Kosovo "elections".

As far as I know, from Nurnberg onwards, crime against the piece is top crime on war crime list

Unfortunately his boss, Mrs. Clinton is still very alive and kicking…lets us pray for president Obama (with all his imperfections). If that unscrupulous witch, got president office, whole world is ed

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Old December 14, 2010, 04:22 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #7
 
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One of the most responsible for illegal aggression against Serbia in 1999, which killed thousands, send misery to millions and left chronic instability and mafia controlled black whole state of Kosovo in region and in Europe. Sole responsible to his famous so called "bulldogger stile” diplomacy against Serbia.

After famous taking off his shoes in friendly chat in house with leaders of KLA, that organization transferred at US government lists, from one of the most dangerous terrorist and drug smuggling organization in the world to “freedom fighters”. In this Sunday elections KLA leader Hasim Tachi (nick name "Snake" because he poisoned his rivals in the criminal underground. He is also well-known drug trafficker and convicted arms dealer and counterfeit money manufacturer. His rap sheet includes numerous arrests, indictments and convictions. At it now, he is US's greatest ally) won Kosovo "elections".

As far as I know, from Nurnberg onwards, crime against the piece is top crime on war crime list

Unfortunately his boss, Mrs. Clinton is still very alive and kicking…lets us pray for president Obama (with all his imperfections). If that unscrupulous witch, got president office, whole world is ed

Mrs Clinton with Hashim Tachi few months ago :
I'm aware of his background and Holbrooke's implications in it. I just have this crazy notion that when someone dies you can show at least a modicum of restraint, he's dead so you'll have plenty of time to complain about the guy in the coming days.
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Old December 14, 2010, 05:34 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #8
 
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In a thead announcng the death of a high political official, why do members insist on continuing political grudges? The man is dead. Whatever the ills you fear he would continue to do, he cannot do. There is a phrase that seems appropriate to post here: "speak no ill of the dead". Is it so hard to start a thread to criticize the policies without attacking the man personally?
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Old December 14, 2010, 05:34 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #9
 
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Old December 14, 2010, 11:18 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #10
 
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Is it so hard to start a thread to criticize the policies without attacking the man personally?
Well, I did not and will never attack him personally or his family. Just some members wished him RIP, my humble opinion (and all people from left to right I know), is not to wish him piece, considering deeds he done. No better, no worse.

PS. Actually parties forming puppet corrupted government in Serbia (all puppet governments are corrupted due to pure nature, no matter if it is South Vietnam, Hamid Harzai in Afghanistan or Serbia now) installed by same R Holbrook and his boss, made a big celebration party in the streets of Belgrade in the same time when funeral of Slobodan Milosevic was going on. Now, that is morbid…I even do not want quote some morbid comments on baloons they have carried or to mention they had and have full (moral, financial, media) support of US …
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Old December 14, 2010, 11:34 AM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #11
 
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Respect to the dead no matter what they have done in life, prove yourself a better person.
Why give someone respect in death you would not give them in life?
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Old December 14, 2010, 12:37 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #12
 
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Why give someone respect in death you would not give them in life?
im with Phier on this one, but im not trashing Holbrooke cause i didnt know he existed until this thread
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Old December 14, 2010, 01:23 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #13
 
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So by that logic, we should also respect men like Hitler and Mao Zedong? Yeah I think I'll pass...
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Old December 14, 2010, 01:37 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #14
 
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Not a political event. Moved to the TD

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Old December 14, 2010, 01:49 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #15
 
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Not a political event. Moved to the TD

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How is this not political?
See what I mean with the /TD/ being the garbage bin of TWC?
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Old December 14, 2010, 01:53 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #16
 
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How is this not political?
See what I mean with the /TD/ being the garbage bin of TWC?
How is a man's death a political event? It is a news event sure, but how is it political?
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Old December 14, 2010, 02:07 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #17
 
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How is a man's death a political event? It is a news event sure, but how is it political?
Because he's done a great many things of political nature in his life? As I understand he played a major role in a Serbian genocide according to a poster in this thread, not to mention his carreer in American politics and role as diplomat to current high conflict regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It's bound to start some fiery debates.
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Old December 14, 2010, 02:12 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #18
 
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Oh his last words were:
"You've got to stop this war in Afghanistan."
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Old December 14, 2010, 02:46 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #19
 
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War criminal. I hope now in death you can see what wretched things you did in life. May God rest your soul. Pray for me that I don't smirk too hard over this. I shouldn't. But I do.
how is he a war criminal?
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Old December 14, 2010, 02:47 PM / Re: Richard Holbrooke dies at 69   #20
 
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Don't you think it's a bit taken from context?

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If it makes you feel better, I never read your post to start with. Only so much Phier to go around.
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