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Roedy Green - 30 Jan 2006 09:58 GMT
The mouse cursor is a bit like a guest that refuses to leave the
party.

You use it to find a spot on the page, then you want  to start typing,
and you pay attention to the caret cursor. The mouse cursor at this
point is irrelevant. But the ruddy thing is often sitting right on top
of what you want to type obscuring your view.

I think mice should learn to behave more politely. They should quietly
fade away whenever you are actively typing and then come back, or
should scoot out the way of what you are typing.

A similar problem is the search. When the text I want is found, it
might be only a few letters. there need to be some fast and standard
way to help my eye see it.  I can often stare and stare and can't tell
if either nothing was found, so the find was hidden in a sea of
characters.
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VisionSet - 30 Jan 2006 11:10 GMT
> But the ruddy thing is often sitting right on top
> of what you want to type obscuring your view.
>
> I think mice should learn to behave more politely. They should quietly
> fade away whenever you are actively typing and then come back, or
> should scoot out the way of what you are typing.

Couldn't agree more!

> A similar problem is the search. When the text I want is found, it
> might be only a few letters. there need to be some fast and standard
> way to help my eye see it.  I can often stare and stare and can't tell
> if either nothing was found, so the find was hidden in a sea of
> characters.

Can't remember where I saw it, and I'm still on Win2000 so behind the times
(Cue M$ flames), maybe M$XP?  Anyway, the std search was improved, when you
ctrl F'd for the find dialog and typed, it immediately found as you typed
the 1st occurance. highlighting as you typed in the centre of the text
component you were searching.

--
Mike W
Rogan Dawes - 30 Jan 2006 11:22 GMT
> The mouse cursor is a bit like a guest that refuses to leave the
> party.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> if either nothing was found, so the find was hidden in a sea of
> characters.

Some *nixes have the cursor set to fade away when you start typing.

Wouldn't it be possible to add a keyboard Listener to the component
(maybe even at a top level) to make the mouse pointer invisible, and
then add a MouseListener (again at a top level even) to restore the
pointer when the mouse moves again? Just a thought.

w.r.t. searching, take a look at how Firefox does search. Pops up a
little bar at the bottom of the page, rather than a dialog box hiding
things, and scrolls and highlights as you type.

Rogan
zero - 30 Jan 2006 19:43 GMT
> I think mice should learn to behave more politely. They should quietly
> fade away whenever you are actively typing and then come back, or
> should scoot out the way of what you are typing.

Hmm I was just about to type "I don't remember where, but I saw a program
like that a while ago", when I looked at the mouse cursor.  It was gone...  
Apparently I saw it in Xnews.  As soon as you start typing, the mouse
cursor is hidden.  Nice feature :-)
Hal Rosser - 30 Jan 2006 21:59 GMT
> The mouse cursor is a bit like a guest that refuses to leave the
> party.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> fade away whenever you are actively typing and then come back, or
> should scoot out the way of what you are typing.

Agreed - And  - PDF files should be cancellable after clicking on their
link - like an html file. How many times have we clicked on a pdf by
mistake - then have to wait for it to load before we can do anything about
it.


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